WaifuJanna.9108 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) I like the idea of the new dungeon rush event, however, doing this with a public group is bit rought. took us a decent hour to finish the ascalon and arah dungeon. It was a fun and challanging experience, but the rewards was kinda meh. you got like 30 silver. Can you just make that you get 2 Gold minimum. Also i am curious if the level downscaling become bugged over the years? i havent done the dungeons since HoT, but getting 1 shot by snipers and 3 shot by random elite mobs with the downscaling when you have Maximum Vitality gear feels bit weird. If i build tanky, i should be tanky... Also it would be nice if the Story mode would be soloable with npc's as an introduction, so the "Explorer mode" is for the tryhards. Edited December 6, 2023 by WaifuJanna.9108 3 1 7 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costepj.5120 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, WaifuJanna.9108 said: but the rewards was kinda meh. you got like 30 silver Dungeon Frequenter says Hi (5 gold every 8 paths) 8 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaifuJanna.9108 Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 yeah lol, thats like saying you get 5 dealt for every 8 metas, and only 20 silver for each meta... Doing 8 dungeons, how long should that take? 4-5 hours for 5 gold? Yes, people should play for fun, and not for gold, but it still feels bit insulting, and it hurt the community in the long run (even with the dungeon rush event, the LFG tool is not that crowded compared to "Hallowen Lab Farms"... 1 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) Pugs I joined today didn't seem to have much of an issue with clearing dungeons in reasonably fast times. For added context, I'm not exactly a fan of dungeons themselves nor was I leading anyone there. 5 minutes ago, WaifuJanna.9108 said: Yes, people should play for fun, and not for gold, but it still feels bit insulting, and it hurt the community in the long run (even with the dungeon rush event, the LFG tool is not that crowded compared to "Hallowen Lab Farms"... "new player takes longer time to clear content they don't know yet so the rewards are bad, it feels insulting and hurts community"? I don't think that's true at all. The lfg tool isn't crowded because if you look at it over time you'll notice parties just fill up fast and disappear from lfg. Edited December 5, 2023 by Sobx.1758 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costepj.5120 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 If you take 5 hours to do 8 paths you are doing something very wrong. 15 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaifuJanna.9108 Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, costepj.5120 said: If you take 5 hours to do 8 paths you are doing something very wrong. just not playing with super tryhard people.. i play with public people, who probably play casually too. Specialy with the level downscaling, in the ascalon dungeon you barely hit 1000 dmg numbers, most of the time its between 200-400 1 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manasa Devi.7958 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I haven't played a dungeon in many years, and this won't get me to. 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaifuJanna.9108 Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 Just now, Manasa Devi.7958 said: I haven't played a dungeon in many years, and this won't get me to. why not? they kinda fun 😄 and the cutscenes are fancy too. it only confused me a bit, i could swear back in the day arah was on a flying ship, but this time you was roaming arround on ground. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manasa Devi.7958 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, WaifuJanna.9108 said: why not? they kinda fun 😄 and the cutscenes are fancy too. it only confused me a bit, i could swear back in the day arah was on a flying ship, but this time you was roaming arround on ground. I've never enjoyed them and there's nothing I want from them. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heibi.4251 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I think the duration of the event should have around 12 days long. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaifuJanna.9108 Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 na 9 days would be better. 1 dungeon for every day 🙂 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianth Moonlight.6453 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 hours ago, WaifuJanna.9108 said: a decent hour to finish the ascalon and arah dungeon you mean story + explorable on both, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebeard.1746 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 hours ago, costepj.5120 said: Dungeon Frequenter says Hi (5 gold every 8 paths) Plus the loot. Alot of dungeons drop non-trivial amounts of loot if you're tagging the trash on your way through. The currency can also be converted to ectos by buying gear with it and salvaging. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebeard.1746 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 hours ago, WaifuJanna.9108 said: only confused me a bit, i could swear back in the day arah was on a flying ship, but this time you was roaming arround on ground. I think you're remembering the aetherblade path of twilight arbor and conflating it with arah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wielder Of Magic.3950 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Dungeons.... To hard.... This is why we can't have nice things. 6 3 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsilon Indi.2031 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 hours ago, WaifuJanna.9108 said: Doing 8 dungeons, how long should that take? 4-5 hours for 5 gold? If people aren't doing weird builds and have a competent level 80 party, it's more like an hour to do all 8 paths. If the group goes full sweaty, they can get 16 fast paths in that same hour, I believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healix.5819 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 hours ago, WaifuJanna.9108 said: it only confused me a bit, i could swear back in the day arah was on a flying ship, but this time you was roaming arround on ground. The story mode version of the dungeon has the airship where you had to use the cannons to defend against giants and dragons. It was originally a dungeon at the end of the personal story, which was converted into a regular story instance years ago. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie.3184 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 The rush showed me how strong power creep is since we steamrolled them all pretty hard. Faster and easier than Fractals. Arah still takes too long though and is smelly. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius.2140 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 hours ago, WaifuJanna.9108 said: All You can do it in story mode, it counts the moment all cinematics and such end (which generally is longer in history mode). With proper gear and builds it isnt difficult, probably around 4 times the damage output. That should allow your team to destroy nearly all bosses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius.2140 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Doggie.3184 said: The rush showed me how strong power creep is since we steamrolled them all pretty hard. Faster and easier than Fractals. Arah still takes too long though and is smelly. Was asking that to a guildie, imo is around twice damage and a lot in none damage boons upkeep, accesibility and also survivility (classes and healers role). When the stack+ zerker era started most bosses died in around 30 secs, with the exception generally of Arah. But even then most people didnt have proper builds. Edited December 6, 2023 by Lucius.2140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvar.7953 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 OP mentioned Arah, and that is going to be a long dungeon. Like most content, some choices will take longer than others (there are some really fast fractals, and some which will take a bit longer). Guild I'm in does dungeons once a month, and we've been completing story + 3 explorable paths in under an hour, and are hardly being optimized speed runners with perfect builds, etc. So ~15 minutes/dungeon for a competent group seems reasonable. Like any content, if no one knows what they are doing, have really terrible builds, etc, it will take longer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farohna.6247 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Doggie.3184 said: The rush showed me how strong power creep is since we steamrolled them all pretty hard. Faster and easier than Fractals. Arah still takes too long though and is smelly. It really was interesting to just blast through things that a few years ago we're still pretty chewy. Arah is gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) arah is really the only dungeon that has stood the test of time and still feels very similar to modern content, everything else is a cakewalk unless you're doing a training run for new players, and even then a proper boon dps and contrasting boon healer will carry the whole group easily. Edited December 6, 2023 by SoftFootpaws.9134 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eekasqueak.7850 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 My only issue with dungeons is knowing which alts have done the story modes. Unless they made that easier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 9 hours ago, WaifuJanna.9108 said: yeah lol, thats like saying you get 5 dealt for every 8 metas, and only 20 silver for each meta... Doing 8 dungeons, how long should that take? 4-5 hours for 5 gold? Yes, people should play for fun, and not for gold, but it still feels bit insulting, and it hurt the community in the long run (even with the dungeon rush event, the LFG tool is not that crowded compared to "Hallowen Lab Farms"... It's not that long. The 1-hour times are for Arah and Aetherpath (in the more casual attempts), but they are the outliers there. Most dungeons would take you around 15-20 mins even with the casual pug group (and faster if you get few people that do know what to do). And while gold rewards were indeed nerfed, the loot is still decent. In reality you end up with way more than just 20-30s per path Now, the rewards could use some improvement (the nerf, even with the followup partial retraction, was still way too heavy handed then), but it's definitely not as bad as you try to paint it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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