Oogabooga.3812 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 With tactivator pulling, supply draining, siege weapon turning, tag watching, etc., should these real world tactics be accepted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 in no way punishable, will never be, so yeaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 No, it's sneaky and underhanded and pretty sad when you have to cheat in a video game to win. IMO it's pretty much the same as being a screen watcher in split screen games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 This stuff is still relevant in 2018? D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 @GDchiaScrub.3241 said:This stuff is still relevant in 2018? D:Yes, I don't know how many drivers I've seen get a callout and say oh I already knew the enemy zerg was there. coughcoughcoughJohnnycoughcoughcough Or you show up somewhere and your group has a tag up and suddenly the entire map blob is there to kill 10 of you, so your group tags down and suddenly the BL is silent and you don't see another person and you can suddenly flip their keeps like its nothing. You see allot of it as a transient server, I probably couldn't count on both hands the amount of guilds/drivers that have spies that I've seen they even have people in the enemy TS/Discord listening to the conversation. I will say however I've seen allot less sabotage (no siege capping an area), its mostly been tactivator pullers lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manasa Devi.7958 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I'm voting no, but because this poll, like so many others, seems to want to put words into my mouth as to why my vote is "No", I won't actually click on the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trejgon.9367 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 if it was introduced as valid gameplay with specific options and counterplay to it it could be nice.but the way it is done atm... well I must say I'm impressed by dedication of peopel actually doing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israel.7056 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 It's obviously not valid play but it's also very difficult to stop without taking some possibly drastic measures which ANET is unlikely to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimator.3589 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 No. It's a kitten thing for weak little kittens to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonWing.9480 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Only reason why people do it is no consequences. In reality though, they will probably never find a way to stop it, so at least give people a way to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe.1807 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Not sure if WvW have the same rules of sPvP, but if it have, is considered match manipulation and should be bannable offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovu.7560 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Good heavens, no.~ Kovu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oogabooga.3812 Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 I think exposing spies is hard enough, but when found, we should be able to do something to them. But what could players do without making anet micromanage all these cases?Currently, we can:Type strongly worded messages.Follow them around menacingly reporting on their every move.Report them for something that they aren't doing.How about a voting option (e.g. 25 votes) to make that person temporarily marked on the map and killable? They wouldn't be aligned with any other server; just essentially a hostile ambient creature to all, even in the spawn area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno.1840 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Unless there's an active counter-play option, then it's really not "playing"... it's "cheating". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandtomatoe.2045 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 it pretty much IS acceptable as there is no way to ban the accounts doing it. I dont do it nor will I ever do it because those that do it are weak. I never cheat. Its cheating really. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neural.1824 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 No. This is GW2, not Eve Online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcopaul.2156 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 you gonna get no possible precursor loot for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedievalThings.5417 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Spying on other servers/or trolling their tactics so you can attack a structure is just pathetic. It's literally the 12 year old mentality because people can't accept that they got beat or outplayed, so they are "cheating" for an advantage. Imagine a coordinated group just logging 50+ alts in at the same time so you can't defend anything. That's not a "valid" way to win. If you need to cheat to sleep at night, that's on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Just sayin', could be valid if formally introduced.Team Fortress' spy originated from a bug that caused enemy players to look like allies, and they made it into a formal class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 for all intents and purposes it's cheating IMO. It's same as stream snipers. U are using an out of gameplay network to get an advantage. the fact that in wvw u normally can't even communicate with other players unless u block them to get thier name and then unblock them as an exploit should show what the intent was for no communication between servers. , while streamsniping is not really cheating since the streamer himself puts himself out in the public and is bassically doing the virtual version of letting people look at his ships during a battleship game, it is similar to streamsniping in that u use an out of game element,u working around the communication block here counts as out of game. At the same time there is almost no counterplay whatsoever to spies and who in the world desigins a game in wich there are elements where is litterally nothing u can do. not even darksouls developers made thier games with impossible elements. Sabotaging your own siege counts as trolling/grieving and or match manipulation the same it does in pvp.Spying counts as cheating in my book for the reason layed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPotato.7456 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 It is usually the big servers that sent out spy to sabotage, cannot vote until you change the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiga.3075 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 I remember a few matches ago when we was up against jq we could always tell when jq was gonna attack a keep because minutes before the attack all the tacts would be pulled. It's a cheap and underhanded tactic to use and shows a complete lack of any skill from servers that needs to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega.5791 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 @"Vagrant.7206" said: Just sayin', could be valid if formally introduced.Team Fortress' spy originated from a bug that caused enemy players to look like allies, and they made it into a formal class.Next mesmer specialisation confirmed? =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambeleg.7632 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Cheaters should be banned for life.... if Arenanet dared to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heibi.4251 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Basically just add a "Who last interacted with the tactic" note in the WvW tactics status and cool down tab. Obviously banners get used a lot so they don't matter as much, but Invulnerability and Emergency Way Point tactics aren't. In all reality though people who pull them as a way to help the enemy server are just players who lack maturity to play fair.Special note: In some towers, in EBG especially, the tactics are so close to the wall/nodes you might accidentally pull one if you don't pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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