Lonewolf Kai.3682 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Which Sigil is considered best for overall DPS increase: Bloodlust or Cruelty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamreaver.4908 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Superior Sigil of Bloodlust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lezbefriends.7516 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Not trying to be rude, but you could’ve asked in-game instead of making a whole forum thread about it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acheron.4731 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 @Mortifera.6138 said:Not trying to be rude, but you could’ve asked in-game instead of making a whole forum thread about it.He could have been in WvW and there was nobody to ask 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T G.7496 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 @Mortifera.6138 said:Not trying to be rude, but you could’ve asked in-game instead of making a whole forum thread about it.Not trying to be rude, but if you felt his thread had no merit you could've just ignored it.Also, I would say Bloodlust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 @TwoGhosts.6790 said:@Mortifera.6138 said:Not trying to be rude, but you could’ve asked in-game instead of making a whole forum thread about it.Not trying to be rude, but if you felt his thread had no merit you could've just ignored it.Also, I would say Bloodlust. Also there is 0 guarantee that people in map chat would even know. Not too many people even use stacking sigils.Personally I use the Sigil of Stars, because that bit of everything works perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltekka.2375 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 It would depend in your overall build, I would say. But, in most cases, bloodlust is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonecap.4105 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 If your crit chance is close to 100% and you already have 4K power, then Cruelty is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Normally you can say that an increase in power leads to better direct results than an increase in critical-rate (precision) or critical-power (ferocity). The reason is rather simple. Precision and Ferocity require a critical hit to be effective. Power improves normal & critical hits. Most power-builds try to reach a critical-hit-chance of 65-70 % (group-play), as there exist group-buffs (Spotter & Banner of Discipline) and Fury, which can boost you up to almost 100 %. The closer you are to 100 % cirt-rate, the more you can think about investing additional stats into ferocity. There is another thing to keep in mind, your survival. It depends a lot on the game-mode you play and your level of skill with your class. But if you happen to die a lot, you may never reach the full capacity of a stacking sigil. So a sigil with fixed stat-increase might be more helpful. Stacking sigils can be useful in Open World PvE or in WvW. If you use it in WvW, keep in mind that killing players grants 5 stacks instantly while killing NPCs only grants one stack. So it is faster to charge up the sigil in competitive, as it should be.Big THANKS for the clarification about the player/npc situation with stacking sigils to @PeerlessArch.6547 and @Strider Pj.2193 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brycar.2651 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 @Mortifera.6138 said:Not trying to be rude, but you could’ve asked in-game instead of making a whole forum thread about it.You are rude. The forums is the exactly correct place to ask advice like this. Show me on this Charr plushie where the whole thread hurt you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vision.7265 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 @Acheron.4731 said:@Mortifera.6138 said:Not trying to be rude, but you could’ve asked in-game instead of making a whole forum thread about it.He could have been in WvW and there was nobody to askHAHAHA. OMG. The truth is hilarious. Ty Acheron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeerlessArch.6547 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 @"HnRkLnXqZ.1870" said:Normally you can say that an increase in power leads to better direct results than an increase in critical-rate (precision) or critical-power (ferocity). The reason is rather simple. Precision and Ferocity require a critical hit to be effective. Power improves normal & critical hits. Most power-builds try to reach a critical-hit-chance of 65-70 % (group-play), as there exist group-buffs (Spotter & Banner of Discipline) and Fury, which can boost you up to almost 100 %. The closer you are to 100 % cirt-rate, the more you can think about investing additional stats into ferocity. There is another thing to keep in mind, your survival. It depends a lot on the game-mode you play and your level of skill with your class. But if you happen to die a lot, you may never reach the full capacity of a stacking sigil. So a sigil with fixed stat-increase might be more helpful. Stacking sigils can be useful in Open World PvE or in WvW. If you use it in WvW, charge it up on NPCs (ambient yellow creatures & guards) only. The bonus on NPCs is 10, the bonus on players is 5. It takes a while to charge it up, but the boost will be significant. Pretty sure the bonus stacks from NPCs/creatures is 1 and players is 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Tested it again with a Superior Sigil of Bloodlust in WvW. Started with 2,176 power without stack. Killed 3 Drakes, 2206 power. 2206 - 2176 = 30. 30 / 3 = 10.Both tooltip and wiki state that difference: 10 for NPC kill, 5 for player kill.It would be better if we had the higher bonus for player-player interaction in competitive-modes. But that is/was a decision from the balance team. I guess they did not expect players to farm NPCs in WvW to stack up the sigil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 @"HnRkLnXqZ.1870" said:Tested it again with a Superior Sigil of Bloodlust in WvW. Started with 2,176 power without stack. Killed 3 Drakes, 2206 power. 2206 - 2176 = 30. 30 / 3 = 10.Both tooltip and wiki state that difference: 10 for NPC kill, 5 for player kill.He meant you get 1 stack for a NPC kill and 5 stacks for a Player kill.Each stack gives you 10 points. So.. 10 points x 3 stacks = 30 points of buff.If you had killed one player : 5 stacks x 10 points = 50 points of buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Makes sense, ty for the clarification. I'll change it in my original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 buy cruelty sigils cuz I mistakenly invested in themwWooOoOooO ~ ~ ~ ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Depends on which class, but I've found cruelty to be a larger dps boost on a Rev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 @Acheron.4731 said:@Mortifera.6138 said:Not trying to be rude, but you could’ve asked in-game instead of making a whole forum thread about it.He could have been in WvW and there was nobody to askThat sounds about right....Hummm let me see there’s 2 sides... empty and stacked, on empty obviously none to ask, on stacked pvd vs empty server, chat were to condensed to notice Op with how greatly an amazing the Zerg beats empty server....Zerg instantly assume empty sever = full of bad players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky.4861 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I use cruelty on my reflect chrono, because reflected hits use the power of the attacker yet the crit chance and ferocity of the player, which is nice against elites/champs. This is for projectiles ofc, but also handy for farming in southsun cove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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