Tayga.3192 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Core mesmer is overpowered with a lot of invulns (which are also reflects when traited), conditions (especially torment and confusion) and sustain. They even do some power damage. For 2v2, they can go 4 signets + blink and be unkillable while kiting with staff and blocking with scepter. Even moa is good because it refreshes every round. If their teammate gets downed they can rez easily with the feedback trait.Not to mention every distort shares aegis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 mesmers shouldn't be able to jump or strafe or backpedal. only forwards running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdigeri.7935 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 No... it has enough movement with blink. Forwards running is op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 @Stand The Wall.6987 said:mesmers shouldn't be able to jump or strafe or backpedal. only forwards running.Average mesmer player doesn't use them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeyspit.3965 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I'm still waiting for someone to demand ANET nerf GW1 Mesmers, as it would be "the only way to be sure" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 @"Turkeyspit.3965" said:I'm still waiting for someone to demand ANET nerf GW1 Mesmers, as it would be "the only way to be sure"To be sure of what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedievalThings.5417 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 @Tayga.3192 said:@"Turkeyspit.3965" said:I'm still waiting for someone to demand ANET nerf GW1 Mesmers, as it would be "the only way to be sure"To be sure of what? Go watch the movie Aliens...come back when you have done so. It will then make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Tempest.7584 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Mesmers are still too pink and purple. Emergency nerfs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 dont worry, anet has prepared emergency bugs COUGH cough cough, features to make mesmer weaker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 @Leonidrex.5649 said:dont worry, anet has prepared emergency bugs COUGH cough cough, features to make mesmer weaker!Thanks anet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickpuncher.8109 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Are we playing the same class here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 @Kickpuncher.8109 said:Are we playing the same class here?Hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Really? please enough.I thought core mes wasn't viable did something change to make them op? also is this a nerf out of spite kinda thing because ranger got hit?Please can we be reasonable and actually give detailed info? i seriously doubt mesmers became super op instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 ░░░░░▄▀▀░░░░░░░▐░▀██▌░░░▄▀░░░░▄▄███░▌▀▀░▀█░░▄█░░▄▀▀▒▒▒▒▒▄▐░░░░█▌░▐█▀▄▀▄▄▄▄▀▀▀▀▌░░░░░▐█▄░▌▄▄▀▀░░░░░░░░▌░░░░▄███████▄░░░░░░░░░░░░░▐░░░░▐███████████▄░░░░░le░░░░░░░▐░░░░▐█████████████▄░░░░ANERF░░░░░▀▄░░░▐██████████████▄░░░░░░has░░░░░░░░▀▄▄████████████████▄░░░░░arrived░░░░░░░░░░░░█▀██████PRAISE!@Axl.8924 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 @Axl.8924 said:Really? please enough.I thought core mes wasn't viable did something change to make them op? also is this a nerf out of spite kinda thing because ranger got hit?Please can we be reasonable and actually give detailed info? i seriously doubt mesmers became super op instantly.Lesson one on mesmer, don't trust mesmer forum posts. Chances are they're trolling or informative...or both at the same time.(kitten that includes me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 @"Leonidrex.5649" said:dont worry, anet has prepared emergency bugs COUGH cough cough, features to make mesmer weaker!Dude go get tested, "the only way to be sure". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoser.7245 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Why not? That will make the Chronomancer feels less bad and Mirage more usable. We must be solidary with the crippled specializations. And, at the end, some more nerfs will not change nothing in the mesmer's life. Just one more drop in the ocean of nerfs that makes up the mesmer's life. Don't expect even a useful specialization for the next expansion, it'll be end in the forgotten well like the other two.Nerf something new so we can add it to our history of ways to play mesmer deleted:https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1193734/#Comment_1193734Now is always the same zZzzzZzzzzZZzz and all less effective. Too much setup and effort for little reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 @Zoser.7245 said:Why not? That will make the Chronomancer feels less bad and Mirage more usable. Heh good one@Axl.8924 said:also is this a nerf out of spite kinda thing because ranger got hit?Huh? I am not ranger main or anything.Please can we be reasonable and actually give detailed info?Well nothing I said was lie, I just didn't tell the whole truth :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senqu.8054 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I'm still waiting for someone to demand ANET nerf GW1 Mesmers, as it would be "the only way to be sure"This is the only way to go I would say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 @Tayga.3192 said:@Zoser.7245 said:Why not? That will make the Chronomancer feels less bad and Mirage more usable. Heh good one@Axl.8924 said:also is this a nerf out of spite kinda thing because ranger got hit?Huh? I am not ranger main or anything.Please can we be reasonable and actually give detailed info?Well nothing I said was lie, I just didn't tell the whole truth :) Thing is I don't main mes or anything nor am I good, but I am concerned with these nerf threads getting out of hand.I see a mixed amount of kneejerk nerf threads and you saw me defend ranger for instance against kneejerk nerfs, so I am merely concerned that folks keep spreading misinformation about classes asking for kneejerk nerfs and getting their wish having a class nerfed into the ground.I see nerf engi nerf mes nerf ranger etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 @Axl.8924 said:@Tayga.3192 said:@Zoser.7245 said:Why not? That will make the Chronomancer feels less bad and Mirage more usable. Heh good one@Axl.8924 said:also is this a nerf out of spite kinda thing because ranger got hit?Huh? I am not ranger main or anything.Please can we be reasonable and actually give detailed info?Well nothing I said was lie, I just didn't tell the whole truth :) Thing is I don't main mes or anything nor am I good, but I am concerned with these nerf threads getting out of hand.I see a mixed amount of kneejerk nerf threads and you saw me defend ranger for instance against kneejerk nerfs, so I am merely concerned that folks keep spreading misinformation about classes asking for kneejerk nerfs and getting their wish having a class nerfed into the ground.I see nerf engi nerf mes nerf ranger etc.since i started playing mesmer was nerfed every patch.I refuse to believe that it will stop, it would destroy my immersion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 @Axl.8924 said:Thing is I don't main mes or anythingBut I main mesmer. I see a mixed amount of kneejerk nerf threadsExactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 @Tayga.3192 said:@Axl.8924 said:Thing is I don't main mes or anythingBut I main mesmer. I see a mixed amount of kneejerk nerf threadsExactly. Then aren't you worried about wrong things being nerfed and over nerfed?Don't want to make it a necro situation where the wrong thing gets nerfed and into the ground.Imagine if they put a massive CD on shatter like 50-60 sec on shatter 5 plus other.It's not like the class has the kinda sustain necro has with shroud to withstand a ton of blows.I mean thats why you guys got ports blinks invulns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 @Axl.8924 said:Imagine if they put a massive CD on shatter like 50-60 sec on shatter 5 plus other.Diversion has 38s cooldown and Distortion has 50s cooldown right now anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymnad.9023 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Do not know about 5V5 but in 2V2 yes the build is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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