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uberkingkong.8041uberkingkong.8041 Member ✭✭✭

Warriors need a buff. Core warrior is garbage. Berserker is garbage. Spellbreaker is only thing viable and its not even 4.5 or higher in rating wise on Metabattle.
Aint even a Berserker build on metabattle.

Buff berserker. You look at guardian, Dragonhunter, its pretty dang good. Other professions have pretty much every single version of it meta. Warrior just has spellbreaker and its not even good.
Buff core, BUFF Berserker seriously.

How do you have a title, BERSERKER, and its not even meta in PvP? smh

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  • Pati.2438Pati.2438 Member ✭✭
    edited August 30, 2020

    Nah Warrior itself need only a little bit more love i gues. For example ....

    Bring damage back Damage to Warriors CC skills. (only low dps, something like "Bull's Charge" = 1-2k damage (critical hit)).This should be the Special thing of why you using Warrior ( Guardian got Aegis, Thief got Stealth special attacks, Mes got clones, Necro got a second Life bar and Barrier, Ele got Elements (with mutch dodges i gues), Rev got its Heroes, Engi its Kits.... so why Warrior not Damage on cc?)

    Then for the love of Defence ... bring "Defy Pain" back into a usefull skill (bring it maybe on 90 seconds cd)..... that would be the moment when Berserker will maybe see a use in the meta.

    For Spellbraker i would say just reduce the Daze from "Full Counter" back to 0,5 seconds (cause the 2 seconds Daze is just pretty toxic design) BUT Buff its dps back to a 2-3k (critical hit) Damage lvl.

  • georgessj.4198georgessj.4198 Member ✭✭✭

    Yea since season 1, what of it?

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Warrior utilities are sad and incomplete. Warrior weapons feel sad and incomplete as well. Warrior feels like a class that's stuck in Vanilla and has been neglected by the developers. This isn't just from a PvP perspective, this is from ALL game modes imo. Sure, berserker is fine in PvE, but that's...it.

  • Marxx.5021Marxx.5021 Member ✭✭✭

    The only way warrior gets buffed is when statistics say it is not used as much as other classes. Balancing in GW2 is about distribution of classes. Not as popular classses get buffed and popular classes get nerfed.

  • Caedmon.6798Caedmon.6798 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2020

    Sustain wise they are pretty garbage atm. I think their damage is allright though. But i find it laughable how my Berserk warri in berserk mode has Less armor as my full zerk thief,and no sustain to back the loss of armor up. Its burst and die. Havent really touched Core warri but the most succes i had with warri was on Condi tank myself,just as everyone else.

  • snoow.1694snoow.1694 Member ✭✭✭

    Warriors are good, there are some specs in PvP that one shot you while having a ton of invuls and sustain

  • uberkingkong.8041uberkingkong.8041 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2020

    Yall be talking about Spellbreaker, see thats the thing, Spellbreaker isn't even a GREAT or META build on Metabattle
    Every other profession does mutliple great things and once Spellbreaker becomes good at one thing, everybody cries.

    To be honest I don't care about Spellbreaker, that build is terrible (hence not a GREAT or META build).
    I'd like to see Berserker become good again and maybe core warrior too.
    How do you name a class Berserker and its not even any good?
    This is what I expect when I hear Berserker Warrior

    Now that is what I call a warrior,
    when someone sees us they should KNOW... HERE COMES THE PAIN

    ..

    Guardians core is great or meta, the dragonhunter is great or meta, the firebrand is great or meta.
    Necro core, great or meta, Necro Scourge great or meta, Necro reaper Great or meta.

    ..
    Then you have Warrior, Warrior ANY = No meta, No great, Spellbreaker is good, Berserker... They didn't even get considered they terrible.
    How do you have all these other professions, GREAT OR META builds. Then you have Warriors, Not great at anything and not meta at anything. See a warrior on your team? USELESS. Playing a Warrior? USELESS. How come you not playing META or GREATS? This is Gold tier, you need to be playing the best. Why is this guy playing a Warrior, does he not KNOW that Warriors are not GREAT and ARE NOT META according to Metabattle??!?! smh, there goes my mmr.
    Make
    Warriors
    Great
    Again

    Good should be good enough though right?
    NBA team this year, Golden State Warriors, they missing their Meta players. They have a lot of good players, because to be in the NBA you gotta be good right?
    WRONG, you gotta be GREAT or META. Thats why they the worst team in the league right now.
    Warriors got 3 types, core, berserker, and spellbreaker. Only one is Good. And yall know if you aint GREAT or META, you going to be one of the worst players in the PvP season right now.
    Berserker, they didn't even make it to the NBA, thats how bad they are.
    BUFF The kitten outta these guys seriously.
    Make em a hard counter to power rangers.

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2020

    @uberkingkong.8041 said:
    Yall be talking about Spellbreaker, see thats the thing, Spellbreaker isn't even a GREAT or META build on Metabattle

    The skills team has to revamp a lot about warrior for it to be good again. CMC can't fix it without it becoming cheese again. So I wouldn't expect changes for years :(

  • @uberkingkong.8041 said:
    Yall be talking about Spellbreaker, see thats the thing, Spellbreaker isn't even a GREAT or META build on Metabattle
    Every other profession does mutliple great things and once Spellbreaker becomes good at one thing, everybody cries.

    To be honest I don't care about Spellbreaker, that build is terrible (hence not a GREAT or META build).
    I'd like to see Berserker become good again and maybe core warrior too.
    How do you name a class Berserker and its not even any good?
    This is what I expect when I hear Berserker Warrior

    Now that is what I call a warrior,
    when someone sees us they should KNOW... HERE COMES THE PAIN

    ..

    Guardians core is great or meta, the dragonhunter is great or meta, the firebrand is great or meta.
    Necro core, great or meta, Necro Scourge great or meta, Necro reaper Great or meta.

    ..
    Then you have Warrior, Warrior ANY = No meta, No great, Spellbreaker is good, Berserker... They didn't even get considered they terrible.
    How do you have all these other professions, GREAT OR META builds. Then you have Warriors, Not great at anything and not meta at anything. See a warrior on your team? USELESS. Playing a Warrior? USELESS. How come you not playing META or GREATS? This is Gold tier, you need to be playing the best. Why is this guy playing a Warrior, does he not KNOW that Warriors are not GREAT and ARE NOT META according to Metabattle??!?! smh, there goes my mmr.
    Make
    Warriors
    Great
    Again

    Good should be good enough though right?
    NBA team this year, Golden State Warriors, they missing their Meta players. They have a lot of good players, because to be in the NBA you gotta be good right?
    WRONG, you gotta be GREAT or META. Thats why they the worst team in the league right now.
    Warriors got 3 types, core, berserker, and spellbreaker. Only one is Good. And yall know if you aint GREAT or META, you going to be one of the worst players in the PvP season right now.
    Berserker, they didn't even make it to the NBA, thats how bad they are.
    BUFF The kitten outta these guys seriously.
    Make em a hard counter to power rangers.

    Surely this is satire, right?

  • JTGuevara.9018JTGuevara.9018 Member ✭✭✭

    Too little too late.

    I have quit spvp and I'm NEVER looking back.

    Here's the stone cold truth that's going to cheese people off: this community cannot handle warriors. Period. If we get buffed near the level of revenant, guardian or necro, people will freakin riot. People will whine, "too much sustain!" "too much damage!"...It's like...you can't win.

    Honestly...when was the last time warrior was ever near the top except for a brief period during the HoT days? Otherwise, it's just a mid-level class. Here's the thing...warrior has limited specs that are effective in spvp, you just have to be really skilled to pull them off. And to tell the truth...you'll get LESS than the effort you put in. That's why people switch to revenant, guardian or necro. People are lazy and they want to win and get carried.

    I've invested 5 years into this class. Of course...that was back when I cared about being "competitive" in this thing. Now, I'm just shaking my head at people expecting good pvp in MMOS...

    Meh...I'm just shooting my mouth off at this point. Carry on! I have better spvp games to play!

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2020

    @JTGuevara.9018 said:
    Too little too late.

    I have quit spvp and I'm NEVER looking back.

    Here's the stone cold truth that's going to cheese people off: this community cannot handle warriors. Period. If we get buffed near the level of revenant, guardian or necro, people will freakin riot. People will whine, "too much sustain!" "too much damage!"...It's like...you can't win.

    Honestly...when was the last time warrior was ever near the top except for a brief period during the HoT days? Otherwise, it's just a mid-level class. Here's the thing...warrior has limited specs that are effective in spvp, you just have to be really skilled to pull them off. And to tell the truth...you'll get LESS than the effort you put in. That's why people switch to revenant, guardian or necro. People are lazy and they want to win and get carried.

    I've invested 5 years into this class. Of course...that was back when I cared about being "competitive" in this thing. Now, I'm just shaking my head at people expecting good pvp in MMOS...

    Meh...I'm just shooting my mouth off at this point. Carry on! I have better spvp games to play!

    It's because warrior has relied on cheese to win this entire games existence. It's not warriors players fault, it's the skills teams.

    Warrior has potential to be a great, fun, interactive class for everyone involved. Yet the effort isn't put into making it that by the skills team.

  • felix.2386felix.2386 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2020

    is it going to happen tho?
    warrior has been completely relying on being over buffed to be meta and is nerfed quickly.
    the rest of the skills are kitten that's why warrior can and only play side node, because the skills are kitten and don't allow them to team fight/gank/support properly in high end matches SINCE CORE.

    warrior has been unplayable in pvp
    for 6 months till now

    good job balance team

  • @TrollingDemigod.3041 said:

    Let me translate it for the rest of you guys:
    Warrior, Berserker, Spellbreaker doesn't smash enemy 100-0 when I smash keyboard with face. Warrior bad. Warrior unplayable. Pls buff. Me don't want think, me want smash. Smash is good. Good balance weak, smash face on keyboard stronk.

    No need to thank me.

    Go look at Metabattle, Warrior isn't Great nor Meta. Idk what the deal is with you.

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @felix.2386 said:
    is it going to happen tho?
    warrior has been completely relying on being over buffed to be meta and is nerfed quickly.
    the rest of the skills are kitten that's why warrior can and only play side node, because the skills are kitten and don't allow them to team fight/gank/support properly in high end matches SINCE CORE.

    Yeah it's pretty sad. Berserker should be a team fighter like reaper instead it's a meme.

  • Tycura.1982Tycura.1982 Member ✭✭✭

    I think war just needs a little shove while engineer needs a little shave and it will be in a decent spot.

    A buff to might generation would do it or a buff to how much MMR heals.

    Reckless should be blockable. I don't know if people get it but being unblockable is a nerf for warriors. It would make aegis a nonissue.

    If flashbang and EE got it's due then warrior could easily go toe to toe with Holo on the side nodes.

    TLDR: Small damage and sustain buff and a meaningful nerf to Holo = Decent warrior times

  • Dante.1508Dante.1508 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Sorry to jump in on your pvp thread but warrior needs a buff in pve as well, just saying.. carry on.

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2020

    @Dante.1508 said:
    Sorry to jump in on your pvp thread but warrior needs a buff in pve as well, just saying.. carry on.

    How? Zerker does 35-37k condi and power.

  • Dante.1508Dante.1508 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Shiyo.3578 said:

    @Dante.1508 said:
    Sorry to jump in on your pvp thread but warrior needs a buff in pve as well, just saying.. carry on.

    How? Zerker does 35-37k condi and power.

    Yeah great, try staying alive on the living story and expansion bosses to do that damage..

  • Xca.9721Xca.9721 Member ✭✭✭

    Does anyone remember old Power Berserker when it was Meta? That kitten was fun to play. Too bad they removed it from PvP with the nerfs and rework. It´s clear that Anet wants Berserker to be the PvE spec and Spellbreaker the PvP spec.

  • viquing.8254viquing.8254 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Don't take it mad but warrior were the definition of 3 in 1 skills. Mean I clic and it did multiple strong effects each clics.
    4k old bullcharge = 1 evade + 1 hard CC + mobility + damage spike.
    2k5-> 4k old Reckless dodge = old mesmer clone death on steroïds (traits who get removed gutting a third of mesmer gameplay because of cheese.). => main damage output when facing goku or boyce.
    Old berserker Head butt = same as old bullcharge = breakstunt + hard CC + damage + jump.

    Don't know if you understand some classes had to perform a 4 to 5 actions combo to do the same result as war prepatch.

    Mean now war have to choose between sustain or damage and can't have the two in the same build which is the goal of the last big rework and what every spec should be.

  • Fat Disgrace.4275Fat Disgrace.4275 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dante.1508 said:

    @Shiyo.3578 said:

    @Dante.1508 said:
    Sorry to jump in on your pvp thread but warrior needs a buff in pve as well, just saying.. carry on.

    How? Zerker does 35-37k condi and power.

    Yeah great, try staying alive on the living story and expansion bosses to do that damage..

    Same as other classes, dodge ?

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2020

    @viquing.8254 said:
    Don't take it mad but warrior were the definition of 3 in 1 skills. Mean I clic and it did multiple strong effects each clics.
    4k old bullcharge = 1 evade + 1 hard CC + mobility + damage spike.
    2k5-> 4k old Reckless dodge = old mesmer clone death on steroïds (traits who get removed gutting a third of mesmer gameplay because of cheese.). => main damage output when facing goku or boyce.
    Old berserker Head butt = same as old bullcharge = breakstunt + hard CC + damage + jump.

    Don't know if you understand some classes had to perform a 4 to 5 actions combo to do the same result as war prepatch.

    Mean now war have to choose between sustain or damage and can't have the two in the same build which is the goal of the last big rework and what every spec should be.

    Currently only warrior and elementalist have to pick between sustain or damage. Every other class gets both for free, all the time, in half their trait lines.

  • viquing.8254viquing.8254 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Shiyo.3578 said:

    @viquing.8254 said:
    Don't take it mad but warrior were the definition of 3 in 1 skills. Mean I clic and it did multiple strong effects each clics.
    4k old bullcharge = 1 evade + 1 hard CC + mobility + damage spike.
    2k5-> 4k old Reckless dodge = old mesmer clone death on steroïds (traits who get removed gutting a third of mesmer gameplay because of cheese.). => main damage output when facing goku or boyce.
    Old berserker Head butt = same as old bullcharge = breakstunt + hard CC + damage + jump.

    Don't know if you understand some classes had to perform a 4 to 5 actions combo to do the same result as war prepatch.

    Mean now war have to choose between sustain or damage and can't have the two in the same build which is the goal of the last big rework and what every spec should be.

    Currently only warrior and elementalist have to pick between sustain or damage. Every other class gets both for free, all the time, in half their trait lines.

    When running power mirage I drop condiclear and had 1 breastunt. While on signet I have plethora of condi clear/disto while dropping pressure. That's the example of choice.

  • Warrior doesnt need as much of a buff as people think. The main problem is PvP combat is a mess, while Warrior plays too clean.

    If we got rid of all this safe non commital lingering ground aoe pollution and ai, and people actually had to take risk and commit with real animations, then gameplay would actually be more legit.

    But other classes cry when they get warrior-like cast times .

  • mortrialus.3062mortrialus.3062 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @viquing.8254 said:

    @Shiyo.3578 said:

    @viquing.8254 said:
    Don't take it mad but warrior were the definition of 3 in 1 skills. Mean I clic and it did multiple strong effects each clics.
    4k old bullcharge = 1 evade + 1 hard CC + mobility + damage spike.
    2k5-> 4k old Reckless dodge = old mesmer clone death on steroïds (traits who get removed gutting a third of mesmer gameplay because of cheese.). => main damage output when facing goku or boyce.
    Old berserker Head butt = same as old bullcharge = breakstunt + hard CC + damage + jump.

    Don't know if you understand some classes had to perform a 4 to 5 actions combo to do the same result as war prepatch.

    Mean now war have to choose between sustain or damage and can't have the two in the same build which is the goal of the last big rework and what every spec should be.

    Currently only warrior and elementalist have to pick between sustain or damage. Every other class gets both for free, all the time, in half their trait lines.

    When running power mirage I drop condiclear and had 1 breastunt. While on signet I have plethora of condi clear/disto while dropping pressure. That's the example of choice.

    "breastunt"

    Best Dressed Memser NA.

  • felix.2386felix.2386 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2020

    @viquing.8254 said:
    Don't take it mad but warrior were the definition of 3 in 1 skills. Mean I clic and it did multiple strong effects each clics.
    4k old bullcharge = 1 evade + 1 hard CC + mobility + damage spike.
    2k5-> 4k old Reckless dodge = old mesmer clone death on steroïds (traits who get removed gutting a third of mesmer gameplay because of cheese.). => main damage output when facing goku or boyce.
    Old berserker Head butt = same as old bullcharge = breakstunt + hard CC + damage + jump.

    Don't know if you understand some classes had to perform a 4 to 5 actions combo to do the same result as war prepatch.

    Mean now war have to choose between sustain or damage and can't have the two in the same build which is the goal of the last big rework and what every spec should be.

    because pressing more button means skillful....having to relying on least button to do most of the stuff with obvious animation cast and it's not instant cast steal is down side. it is way easier to play when you have more skills effect distributed to more buttons, rev/fb/holo is prime example

    warrior has been unplayable in pvp
    for 6 months till now

    good job balance team

  • felix.2386felix.2386 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2020

    @Tycura.1982 said:
    I think war just needs a little shove while engineer needs a little shave and it will be in a decent spot.

    A buff to might generation would do it or a buff to how much MMR heals.

    Reckless should be blockable. I don't know if people get it but being unblockable is a nerf for warriors. It would make aegis a nonissue.

    If flashbang and EE got it's due then warrior could easily go toe to toe with Holo on the side nodes.

    TLDR: Small damage and sustain buff and a meaningful nerf to Holo = Decent warrior times

    @Tycura.1982 said:
    I think war just needs a little shove while engineer needs a little shave and it will be in a decent spot.

    A buff to might generation would do it or a buff to how much MMR heals.

    Reckless should be blockable. I don't know if people get it but being unblockable is a nerf for warriors. It would make aegis a nonissue.

    If flashbang and EE got it's due then warrior could easily go toe to toe with Holo on the side nodes.

    TLDR: Small damage and sustain buff and a meaningful nerf to Holo = Decent warrior times

    yes, in fact thanks to full counter, spellbreaker is close to getting back to side node.
    but that doesnt fix warrior's core problem.
    if you are fine, with daze spamming, getting back as side noder only again, that's easily replaceable with tiny adjustment and will get easily nerfed being meta side noder and be comepletely unplayable again in all roles, like it has always been.
    that's fine by me.

    warrior has been unplayable in pvp
    for 6 months till now

    good job balance team

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2020

    Arenanet seemingly has no desire for Warrior to be at least decent.

    I wonder what the next espec is going to be though.
    Probably another DPS spec that gets its damage and/or sustain nerfed few months into the expansion.

  • Ghos.1326Ghos.1326 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Warrior doesn't need a buff. Other things just still need nerfs.

    The greatest enemy to improvement, is ignorance. But the desire to learn will cast ignorance into the fire.

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Fueki.4753 said:
    Arenanet seemingly has no desire for Warrior to be at least decent.

    I wonder what the next espec is going to be though.
    Probably another DPS spec that gets its damage and/or sustain nerfed few months into the expansion.

    Dual wield banners support.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Shiyo.3578 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:
    Arenanet seemingly has no desire for Warrior to be at least decent.

    I wonder what the next espec is going to be though.
    Probably another DPS spec that gets its damage and/or sustain nerfed few months into the expansion.

    Dual wield banners support.

    Banners are utilities, not weapons. Also, their kit skills were melee, yet warrior still needs a medium range (600 or 900) weapon.
    Warrior already got two weapons in PoF, so I doubt they get another two with the next expansion.

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Shiyo.3578 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:
    Arenanet seemingly has no desire for Warrior to be at least decent.

    I wonder what the next espec is going to be though.
    Probably another DPS spec that gets its damage and/or sustain nerfed few months into the expansion.

    Dual wield banners support.

    Banners are utilities, not weapons. Also, their kit skills were melee, yet warrior still needs a medium range (600 or 900) weapon.
    Warrior already got two weapons in PoF, so I doubt they get another two with the next expansion.

    Burst skills replaced with banner mode which gives you 2 banners you dual wield for double the banner buffs

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2020

    @Shiyo.3578 said:
    Burst skills replaced with banner mode which gives you 2 banners you dual wield for double the banner buffs

    Why would Warriors need that, when they already have Banners as utilities?
    Even GW1 Paragons' Chant skills would make up for better a Burst replacement.

  • Caedmon.6798Caedmon.6798 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2020

    @crepuscular.9047 said:

    @Ghos.1326 said:
    Warrior doesn't need a buff. Other things just still need nerfs.

    yeap, otherwise we get into the cycle of endless power creep again

    Well its either buff one class or nerf everyone else. I think the former is easier to accomplish. Berserk wise,power is just Burst and Die. You have zero sustain and less armor as a zerk thief,which is absolutely laughable. I do think the damage is fine as it is. Condi tank is "Okish" in teamfights,solo not so much because you cant rlly cover those burns up with much else condi's so they can be easily cleansed by about anyone. Ive also ran into some core necs on my condi tank that can just life force forever and your burns wont do kitten but give them more life force,so all you do is try to burn through that life force bar over and over and over and over ( I think theres something off with the life force gain on core nec,its Too much ). I still need to run Sb again and see but tbh i played sb for too long and it started to bore the absolute kitten out of me. Berserk is warris most fun spec,if only it had some more "Oomph".

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Shiyo.3578 said:
    Burst skills replaced with banner mode which gives you 2 banners you dual wield for double the banner buffs

    Why would Warriors need that, when they already have Banners as utilities?
    Even GW1 Paragons' Chant skills would make up for better a Burst replacement.

    They aren't focused enough on banners for PvE, and banners need to be a bigger focus.

  • @Caedmon.6798 said:

    @crepuscular.9047 said:

    @Ghos.1326 said:
    Warrior doesn't need a buff. Other things just still need nerfs.

    yeap, otherwise we get into the cycle of endless power creep again

    Well its either buff one class or nerf everyone else. I think the former is easier to accomplish. Berserk wise,power is just Burst and Die. You have zero sustain and less armor as a zerk thief,which is absolutely laughable. I do think the damage is fine as it is. Condi tank is "Okish" in teamfights,solo not so much because you cant rlly cover those burns up with much else condi's so they can be easily cleansed by about anyone. Ive also ran into some core necs on my condi tank that can just life force forever and your burns wont do kitten but give them more life force,so all you do is try to burn through that life force bar over and over and over and over ( I think theres something off with the life force gain on core nec,its Too much ). I still need to run Sb again and see but tbh i played sb for too long and it started to bore the absolute kitten out of me. Berserk is warris most fun spec,if only it had some more "Oomph".

    You'll know they found the right balance when every profession is on Metabattle as a Meta build.
    Right now, no version of Warrior is Meta.
    Right now, no version of Warrior is Great.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2020

    @Shiyo.3578 said:
    They aren't focused enough on banners for PvE, and banners need to be a bigger focus.

    Banner poppers being the default option for Warriors in organized and semi-organized party play already is enough focus on banners.
    And if you want a support elite specialization using banners, noone prevents you from slotting the core banners on a hypothetical support elite specialization that doesn't focus on banners.

  • I'd say Warrior has an... okay place in the game at present. Middling, at best, but not terrible, nowhere near as bad as it used to be back in the dark ages. But for the love of kitten, do something about Berserker and things like the Defense line. The fact that it STILL has the auto proc traits with a 300 second cooldown on them still after so much time has passed is ridiculous; to be clear, I'm not saying auto defenses should be brought back. I'm saying that this placeholder solution has been around since February without any changes. Rework Defy Pain and Last Stand into something else already, for the love of kitten.

  • uberkingkong.8041uberkingkong.8041 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2020

    @TeqkOneStylez.8047 said:

    @Shiyo.3578 said:

    @uberkingkong.8041 said:

    @Caedmon.6798 said:

    @crepuscular.9047 said:

    @Ghos.1326 said:
    Warrior doesn't need a buff. Other things just still need nerfs.

    yeap, otherwise we get into the cycle of endless power creep again

    Well its either buff one class or nerf everyone else. I think the former is easier to accomplish. Berserk wise,power is just Burst and Die. You have zero sustain and less armor as a zerk thief,which is absolutely laughable. I do think the damage is fine as it is. Condi tank is "Okish" in teamfights,solo not so much because you cant rlly cover those burns up with much else condi's so they can be easily cleansed by about anyone. Ive also ran into some core necs on my condi tank that can just life force forever and your burns wont do kitten but give them more life force,so all you do is try to burn through that life force bar over and over and over and over ( I think theres something off with the life force gain on core nec,its Too much ). I still need to run Sb again and see but tbh i played sb for too long and it started to bore the absolute kitten out of me. Berserk is warris most fun spec,if only it had some more "Oomph".

    You'll know they found the right balance when every profession is on Metabattle as a Meta build.
    Right now, no version of Warrior is Meta.
    Right now, no version of Warrior is Great.

    Meta battle isn't this games bible for PvP.

    You would be surprised how many think it is.

    What is then?
    Where is information showing Warriors are doing great?

    All I see is information Warriors not Great
    All I see is information Warriors not Meta

    Prove me wrong.

  • @Ghos.1326 said:

    Warriors are balanced, just so many things are not balanced right now due to it being completely missed or wrongfully buffed recently. Although I think anet is slipping back into their old ways of not pushing out enough balance passes (even smaller ones that only impact a couple professions per pass would be helpful, smaller ones that address the right things), I'd still say give it some time before we need nerfs to those overperforming things. You'll see, warrior will come back.

    What do you mean slipping back into their old ways? They never stopped. So likely we'll see a little bit of good balancing in 1-2 years at best.

    @Tycura.1982 said:
    "Moving forward with competitive balance, we want to make smaller adjustments more often. The specific cadence for balance will always depend on our overall release schedule, but ideally it will be closer to every 4-6 weeks, while still having the opportunity to make minor tweaks outside of the regular balance update. The goal here is to have better flexibility to fix problems in a timely manner." - CMC 01/31/2020

    Are you feeling it now Mr. Krabs? Are you feeling it?

    216 Days of bad balance and counting.

    I'd rather have Ben "SoonTM" Polywondganaland back

    you also said 8k burst in one go? I'm assuming you're talking about Arcing Slice, it doesn't hit that hard unless the foe(s) you hit are below 50%, it crits, you're running zerker stats, hitting light armor without protection. I have to question just out of curiosity,have you played or do play Warrior?

  • uberkingkong.8041uberkingkong.8041 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2020

    @Tharan.9085 said:

    @uberkingkong.8041 said:

    You'll know they found the right balance when every profession is on Metabattle as a Meta build.
    Right now, no version of Warrior is Meta.
    Right now, no version of Warrior is Great.

    Metabattle is quite an unreliable source on what is good and bad

    What are the reliable sources then? Do they have Warrior in Meta or Great?
    Does it include Berserker?
    Does it include core Warrior?

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 5, 2020

    @uberkingkong.8041 said:

    @Tharan.9085 said:

    @uberkingkong.8041 said:

    You'll know they found the right balance when every profession is on Metabattle as a Meta build.
    Right now, no version of Warrior is Meta.
    Right now, no version of Warrior is Great.

    Metabattle is quite an unreliable source on what is good and bad

    What are the reliable sources then? Do they have Warrior in Meta or Great?
    Does it include Berserker?
    Does it include core Warrior?

    I'd say support spellbreaker is a high tier build and perfectly playable. However, when your classes best build is tank or support it's in a bad spot.