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The End; Salt on the Wound Achievement impossible ?

Zhaid Zhem.6508Zhaid Zhem.6508 Member ✭✭✭✭
edited May 16, 2019 in Guild Wars 2 Discussion

Successfully inflict 10 wounds on Kralkatorrik during The End.

Okai but the first phase we can shot Kralki : some of the weak spots are already beside Aurene or I can't define if they are attainable or not, if they are below or above kralki.
The the second phase on wings, same, Aurene get superspeed : even with semi-auto 111-111 and retargeting it's often too late and I can't see/hit the spots anymore; but If I avoid some spots and focus on the next one, I don't have the 10 ...
Plus, dmg seems random, it takes 3 shots average to destroy a spot, but sometimes 3 isn't enough (4% remaining <3<3<3 ). Holding key doesn't seem to do anything to the dmg.

Bref, if some people has done this achievement, or better if they have a video, I would appreciate their help. Thanks.

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  • Zhaid Zhem.6508Zhaid Zhem.6508 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Will try, thanks.

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Yea, I also figured it's impossible alone.
    Most of the targets are "no line of sight", no matter when or where you're positioned. And the fight progresses almost right after breaking 3 or 4 points.
    Will have to do with someone else, to even have a chance.

    Although I have a hunch that most targets being 'no line of sight' is more of a bug than intended

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  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It's entirely possible to do it solo

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Technically 6 AP and the corsair boot box

  • CETheLucid.3964CETheLucid.3964 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @runeblade.7514 said:

    @Vavume.8065 said:
    1 AP, not worth my time...

    Sadly, it is required for the Corsair Bootbox and War Eternal Mastery Achievement. There is no way to circumvent Salt on the Wound achievement if you want this.

    You could do WvW/PvP for the bootbox.

  • Perisemiotics.4579Perisemiotics.4579 Member ✭✭✭

    Yeah, this one is required for the Mastery meta achievement; I was hoping the hidden Skyscale collection achs. would get added onto the Mastery list (like the ones for Requiem armor in Ep. 4 were) but nah.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zhaid Zhem.6508 said:

    Successfully inflict 10 wounds on Kralkatorrik during The End.

    Team up = easy peasy :)

  • Stalkingwolf.6035Stalkingwolf.6035 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vavume.8065 said:
    1 AP, not worth my time...

    you have to do it for the meta

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  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:
    Technically 6 AP and the corsair boot box

    laughs in wvw

  • Managed to solo it. Aim for the targets slightly farther away and spam each point three times. After a few tries it is easily done

  • Vavume.8065Vavume.8065 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Stalkingwolf.6035 said:

    @Vavume.8065 said:
    1 AP, not worth my time...

    you have to do it for the meta

    I don't have to do the meta either...

  • Mewcifer.5198Mewcifer.5198 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It wouldn't be so bad if hitting the 1 skill would auto target the closest weak spot. Trying to click on them while flying around all over the place was kind of hard.

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  • Gop.8713Gop.8713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It does have some annoyances like targeting, no counter to let you know how you're doing, no control over aurene, etc. but this is the kind of cheeve that I consider 'fun' challenging. It was a little frustrating but didn't take a ton of trials to get through solo, it is easy to start over when you fail, etc.

    But it also breaks with precedent a little in that it seems designed to really encourage completing it in a group and it is more challenging than most of the cheeves that have been included in story metacheeves in the past . . .

  • Stalkingwolf.6035Stalkingwolf.6035 Member ✭✭✭

    i did it with 2 more players.

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  • Gop.8713Gop.8713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @BadHealer.3608 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:
    It's entirely possible to do it solo

    Please tell us how this should be possible. Is there some way to slow down the story so that you can get your 10 spots or so? For me the story is already too soon over and I didn't hit the ten spots.

    BTW: It seems that your account didn't get the achievement either. Congratulation for getting the achievement solo without getting it.

    They're not wrong tho . . .

  • FrizzFreston.5290FrizzFreston.5290 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I want to do the achievement with a full party. Simply because the rain of destruction you can create with that much support is great.

  • Ben K.6238Ben K.6238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This was pretty lame. About 6-8 tries of fighting controls that generally don't do what you want them to do to actually kill enough of them before time ran out.

  • Rayti.6531Rayti.6531 Member ✭✭✭

    Did it on my third try. It helps a lot to first memorize where the spots are and when they spawn.

    • Target/hit them immediately when they spawn.
    • In the later phases (i.e. along the wings) skip one weak spot and start at the second one - this should give you enough time to hit the other spots thrice.
    • Make sure to not wait until your third projectile hits until you target the next weak spot - retarget as soon as you have shot the third projectile. Otherwise you will fall behind on your timing and won't get in three hits.
  • Kelly.7019Kelly.7019 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2019

    this achievement broke? i hit 10 but achievement does not pop! also it would help to verify your achievement progress to know that i am actually hitting all 10 like 10/10 displayed somewhere. I assume if i see white numbers and the target disappears i'm hitting it. Still not getting credit for this though.

    and what's up with having exactly 18 cheevos for WAR ETERNAL mastery? we usually get to pick which ones we do (more possible cheevos then 18). now this is not doable solo or super, super, unbelievably hard. i can't ever get the Corsair boot box to complete the set :(

  • @Kelly.7019 said:
    this achievement broke? i hit 10 but achievement does not pop!

    It doesn't pop until you make it to the next area.

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  • derd.6413derd.6413 Member ✭✭✭✭

    it's entirely possible to do solo

    I Have No friends, so I Must pug

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2019

    @BadHealer.3608 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:
    It's entirely possible to do it solo

    Please tell us how this should be possible. Is there some way to slow down the story so that you can get your 10 spots or so? For me the story is already too soon over and I didn't hit the ten spots.

    You have to pick and choose which ones you target. It took me a few tries.

    BTW: It seems that your account didn't get the achievement either. Congratulation for getting the achievement solo without getting it.

    And how exactly did you see whether I had it or not? Unless you found some way to get into my account, you’re just making a hyperbolic accusation because you disagree with me that it can be done solo.

  • Kelly.7019Kelly.7019 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2019

    sux these cheeves are easier to do with more people. story should be solo - doable. group content is for dungs/ fractals /raids. hard to pug story...

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Not impossible, but most targets block their own line of sight.
    I did it with a group of 5 and when we got it, after like 3 tries, it was a very close call.

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    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
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  • @Kelly.7019 said:
    sux these cheeves are easier to do with more people. story should be solo - doable. group content is for dungs/ fractals /raids. hard to pug story...

    Nearly all story achievements are more easily done with more people. And all of them, including this one, are doable solo.

    Hype is the path to the dark side. Hype leads to unfulfilled expectations. Disappointment leads to anger. Anger leads to disgust. Disgust leads to "oh, new shinies! I'm back!"

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2019

    @Gop.8713 said:
    A counter would have been really nice tho . . .

    Indeed as that would be easier than counting the wounds with blood trails. I don’t see why it would be difficult to have the achievement eligibility icon keep tally.

  • @Gop.8713 said:
    A counter would have been really nice tho . . .

    Yes. (Along with many other achievements.)
    If the game keeps track, then the UI should, too.

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  • Kelly.7019Kelly.7019 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2019

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Kelly.7019 said:
    sux these cheeves are easier to do with more people. story should be solo - doable. group content is for dungs/ fractals /raids. hard to pug story...

    Nearly all story achievements are more easily done with more people. And all of them, including this one, are doable solo.

    I realize the game is tailored to grouping - working with people. Kind of wish there was some endgame mode to get you "neat loot" for solo questing comparable to group raiding.

    p.s. there might be and im overlooking it right now, but ya know...

  • @Kelly.7019 said:

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Kelly.7019 said:
    sux these cheeves are easier to do with more people. story should be solo - doable. group content is for dungs/ fractals /raids. hard to pug story...

    Nearly all story achievements are more easily done with more people. And all of them, including this one, are doable solo.

    I realize the game is tailored to grouping - working with people. Kind of wish there was some endgame mode to get you "neat loot" for solo questing comparable to group raiding.

    p.s. there might be and im overlooking it right now, but ya know...

    It's an MMO. It undermines both the "massive" and the "multiplayer" aspects for ANet to spend any energy at all on solo content. And yet, they have setup all of the personal stories (and related achievements) to be solo-possible (if not always solo-friendly).

    Hype is the path to the dark side. Hype leads to unfulfilled expectations. Disappointment leads to anger. Anger leads to disgust. Disgust leads to "oh, new shinies! I'm back!"

  • Kelly.7019Kelly.7019 Member ✭✭✭

    for anet maybe because they're a small company? this isn't anything unheard of before. It exists in many mmos. > @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Kelly.7019 said:

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Kelly.7019 said:
    sux these cheeves are easier to do with more people. story should be solo - doable. group content is for dungs/ fractals /raids. hard to pug story...

    Nearly all story achievements are more easily done with more people. And all of them, including this one, are doable solo.

    I realize the game is tailored to grouping - working with people. Kind of wish there was some endgame mode to get you "neat loot" for solo questing comparable to group raiding.

    p.s. there might be and im overlooking it right now, but ya know...

    It's an MMO. It undermines both the "massive" and the "multiplayer" aspects for ANet to spend any energy at all on solo content. And yet, they have setup all of the personal stories (and related achievements) to be solo-possible (if not always solo-friendly).

    for anet maybe because they're a small company? this isn't anything unheard of before. It exists in many mmos.

  • notebene.3190notebene.3190 Member ✭✭✭✭

    My only issue is this meta has some very specific things you have to do, you don't get to pick and choose which ones to complete like all the other chapters this season before it, or most. There have been other chapters in other seasons that suffer from this same design, and I'd be curious to know if it's the same team that likes to limit what you do for the meta, requiring you do do the story step achievements. When the meta gives you far more achievements to reach the meta than you need to do, I can usually skip the harder story achievements. While I enjoy the actual story, I often times get frustrated with the mechanics of them, and will rarely play any of them multiple times. I wouldn't mind revisiting stories in a spectator mode, but I guess that's what YouTube is for. :3

    In my case, I dabble, very lightly, in WvW (mostly because I find some of the dailies quick to do compared to PvE), so I'll eventually get the boots, but this chapter, I'm going to miss out on a few points and completing the meta, sadly (after completing all the metas this season up to this point).

    In the event I don't get a chance, thank you all for the company and help when I needed it from time to time.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kelly.7019 said:
    for anet maybe because they're a small company? this isn't anything unheard of before. It exists in many mmos. > @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Kelly.7019 said:

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Kelly.7019 said:
    sux these cheeves are easier to do with more people. story should be solo - doable. group content is for dungs/ fractals /raids. hard to pug story...

    Nearly all story achievements are more easily done with more people. And all of them, including this one, are doable solo.

    I realize the game is tailored to grouping - working with people. Kind of wish there was some endgame mode to get you "neat loot" for solo questing comparable to group raiding.

    p.s. there might be and im overlooking it right now, but ya know...

    It's an MMO. It undermines both the "massive" and the "multiplayer" aspects for ANet to spend any energy at all on solo content. And yet, they have setup all of the personal stories (and related achievements) to be solo-possible (if not always solo-friendly).

    for anet maybe because they're a small company? this isn't anything unheard of before. It exists in many mmos.

    I think it’s more of a movement to appeal to a wider range of players rather than resources. It’s why the majority of things in the game can be done solo although some of that may be challenging from player to player such as the achievement being discussed in this thread.

  • maddoctor.2738maddoctor.2738 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kelly.7019 said:
    I realize the game is tailored to grouping - working with people. Kind of wish there was some endgame mode to get you "neat loot" for solo questing comparable to group raiding.

    p.s. there might be and im overlooking it right now, but ya know...

    It depends if you call fighting in meta events group or solo content. In most of them, you have little to no control over your team mates and builds/team composition plays a very small role. It's group content, but lacks most aspects of group content, it's very solo friendly.

  • Metasynaptic.1093Metasynaptic.1093 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2019

    I had a full party by singing out in LA map chat for about 5 minutes. One shot.

  • Just did it solo, took 3 tries.
    Killed 4 at first "shooting" phase and 6 at the final one.
    As someone said above, choose to hit a mark that's not so close to Aurene.
    I skipped the closest and shot the next every time, it worked perfectly.

  • TheQuickFox.3826TheQuickFox.3826 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I haven't been able to in multiple attempts. I probably lack some player kill level.

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  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2019

    @Stalkingwolf.6035 said:
    i did it with 2 more players.

    Me too. We all received the achievement on our first attempt. It was fun, too, with them being reduced to small wisps floating next to me, heh.

  • Zoe.8310Zoe.8310 Member ✭✭✭

    This achievement is a NIGHTMARE solo....

    They really should make required achievements soloable :-\

    And targeting the weakpoints is horrible. None of the targeting hotkeys work on him, and trying to manually click within that tiny window of time is just ridiculous

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zoe.8310 said:
    This achievement is a NIGHTMARE solo....

    They really should make required achievements soloable :-\

    And targeting the weakpoints is horrible. None of the targeting hotkeys work on him, and trying to manually click within that tiny window of time is just ridiculous

    It is soloable.

  • hugo.4705hugo.4705 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I've tried it for the eleventh time. Still not able to do it. Even with a player boosting me. I'm not a reptile. And the fact that each wound isn't breaking after 3 shots is annoying, I don't have thunderbolts reflexes and I struggle with targeting. Even targeted skills. Have to click then reclick where I want to shoot even when it's set on automatic in my case, now imagine a very fast flight near a dragon where I need to reclick in every beige target to turn them red before clicking skill 1 to shoot. I miss half of targets. What is the most annoying is that for dragonfall mastery, that is the only achievements left.

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  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @hugo.4705 said:
    I've tried it for the eleventh time. Still not able to do it. Even with a player boosting me. I'm not a reptile. And the fact that each wound isn't breaking after 3 shots is annoying, I don't have thunderbolts reflexes and I struggle with targeting. Even targeted skills. Have to click then reclick where I want to shoot even when it's set on automatic in my case, now imagine a very fast flight near a dragon where I need to reclick in every beige target to turn them red before clicking skill 1 to shoot. I miss half of targets. What is the most annoying is that for dragonfall mastery, that is the only achievements left.

    go in with a full group?

  • Zoe.8310Zoe.8310 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 3, 2019

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Zoe.8310 said:
    This achievement is a NIGHTMARE solo....

    They really should make required achievements soloable :-\

    And targeting the weakpoints is horrible. None of the targeting hotkeys work on him, and trying to manually click within that tiny window of time is just ridiculous

    It is soloable.

    Thanks for the curt reply... I didn't say it was impossible, I said it's a bloody nightmare

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @hugo.4705 said:
    I've tried it for the eleventh time. Still not able to do it. Even with a player boosting me. I'm not a reptile. And the fact that each wound isn't breaking after 3 shots is annoying, I don't have thunderbolts reflexes and I struggle with targeting. Even targeted skills. Have to click then reclick where I want to shoot even when it's set on automatic in my case, now imagine a very fast flight near a dragon where I need to reclick in every beige target to turn them red before clicking skill 1 to shoot. I miss half of targets. What is the most annoying is that for dragonfall mastery, that is the only achievements left.

    go in with a full group?

    I tried in LFG to find just one person, and after an hour of waiting, I gave up.

    I really hate this achievement :s

  • Zhaid Zhem.6508Zhaid Zhem.6508 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If you're EU, pm me I would help you.