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Population so Low....

zoopop.5630zoopop.5630 Member ✭✭✭✭

Is there a reason why Eu and Na can't be combined ?

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  • yanniell.1236yanniell.1236 Member ✭✭✭

    Ping would be a factor if it gets above 180~190ms.

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Daishi.6027 said:
    Even if lag or whatever issue was fixable... The entire thing would just be a band aid over a large triangle shaped wound.

    People are still not going to want to play or get invested and that is what needs to be addressed.

    Someone that actually gets it.
    Plz fix your poopies before doing any quality of life what so ever!

  • Trevor Boyer.6524Trevor Boyer.6524 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zoopop.5630 said:
    Is there a reason why Eu and Na can't be combined ?

    It's something that just needs to happen at this point. Gotta be a way a to mediate the ping issues.

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

    @zoopop.5630 said:
    Is there a reason why Eu and Na can't be combined ?

    It's something that just needs to happen at this point. Gotta be a way a to mediate the ping issues.

    This low population is symptomatic to something wrong in the game. We all know what that is. As it was said above, even if you merge both EU/NA & manage good ping. The problem still remains. & what is happening now is going to happen again. But with Both EU/NA merged this time. & you'l get the same result. A game leaking all of it's players as time goes by bcuz the real problem is not being addressed. .

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    WHY is the population low? Why is it shrinking?

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:
    WHY is the population low? Why is it shrinking?

    Oh plz you know perfectly why. It's cuz you a pvp god & win all the time & you know it. & peeps just gives up & leaves the game to go play candy crush instead.

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2019

    played an unranked match... next game had 75% of the same people lol. was on na server eu time but still.

    I seem to be lagging out like crazy too. wasn't like this before amazon server switch.

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • Ithilwen.1529Ithilwen.1529 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I think the "why" is that builds have been made harder and harder to play. Contributing factors have been matchmaking and generally toxic atmosphere.
    I can't bring myself to log into The Mists most of the time these days.. I know I'm just going to get hammered.

    Mesmerizing Girl

  • lLobo.7960lLobo.7960 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2019

    Before anything... Small (less severe changes) balance patches more often, large (more severe, reworks) balance patches between seasons.
    Now...
    1 - Add more game modes and more maps
    2 - Add more queue options (options to be queued against only solo, duo, or groups)
    3 - Implement better rank restrictions for ranked (make it harder to smurf or bot) and apply rank penalties to accounts that bot/smurf/manipulate matches or dishonor
    4 - rework rewards (unique skins, unique auras) and achievements (make open arenas dailies again)
    5 - Implement that PvP legendary trinket that is in the works (2 for LW, 1 for Raids, 1 for PvP, 1 for WvW)
    6 - Cast, promote, showcase...
    ...
    Profit?

    Oh yea... and build templates...

  • tacoclaw.8251tacoclaw.8251 Member ✭✭
    edited June 19, 2019

    @Ithilwen.1529 said:
    I think the "why" is that builds have been made harder and harder to play. Contributing factors have been matchmaking and generally toxic atmosphere.
    I can't bring myself to log into The Mists most of the time these days.. I know I'm just going to get hammered.

    Yeah, the game has gotten too insane on the build level. I seriously think it would be more fun if there were only 10 available builds and players had to choose as they see fit.

    Imagine if chess had 400 piece types from which the player had to choose the 6 they do play with? What a nightmare, because no normal person can spend the time learning all this stuff.

    As a rule keep the set pieces simple, but the strategy scaleable. GW2 has this backwards. Besides, does anyone really get excited they won because they had a better build and were able to corner and run down the inferior build?

  • DoomNexus.5324DoomNexus.5324 Member ✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    played an unranked match... next game had 75% of the same people lol. was on na server eu time but still.

    I seem to be lagging out like crazy too. wasn't like this before amazon server switch.

    Well during season most are playing ranked anyways. But this happens a lot for ranked matches as well but let's look it this way: 10 ppl just left the match and let's assume all of those 10 are queuing again.. Why would the match making system not match them together again if their rating was more or less the same.. Just swap out the highest and lowest scoring players and you got the same team ratings again. In unranked even more so since MM doesn't even need to take rating into account.
    If you really want to play with different ppl just wait a few minutes before queuing again. Just wait until they get the Q pop (probably 4 or 5 minutes to be safe) and you're good.

    @Ithilwen.1529 said:
    I think the "why" is that builds have been made harder and harder to play. Contributing factors have been matchmaking and generally toxic atmosphere.
    I can't bring myself to log into The Mists most of the time these days.. I know I'm just going to get hammered.

    I wouldn't say builds are harder to play these days but to sustain the immense dps during teamfights or bursts in duels makes fights harder I guess.
    I agree on the toxicity tho, I think it wouldn't be too bad if chat was completely disabled during PvP matches. Getting flamed is very frustrating for the 'victim' and probably annoys the others as well. And a guy flaming is always some guy not actually playing so it's actually hindering several ppl at once.
    But I think it's important to point out that 'critisism != flaming'. Some people don't know the difference apparently. But if someone insults me or is really flaming me (which almost never happens anymore since I'm back in plat) I'm just instant blocking the dude tbh. And I'd advice everyone to do the same actually, it's just so much more enjoyable and I also play better without constant harassment.

  • zoopop.5630zoopop.5630 Member ✭✭✭✭

    logged in after work to play a bit........................................... and I can't get into rank or unrank.

    Yet again.

  • Taygus.4571Taygus.4571 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DoomNexus.5324 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    played an unranked match... next game had 75% of the same people lol. was on na server eu time but still.

    I seem to be lagging out like crazy too. wasn't like this before amazon server switch.

    Well during season most are playing ranked anyways. But this happens a lot for ranked matches as well but let's look it this way: 10 ppl just left the match and let's assume all of those 10 are queuing again.. Why would the match making system not match them together again if their rating was more or less the same.. Just swap out the highest and lowest scoring players and you got the same team ratings again. In unranked even more so since MM doesn't even need to take rating into account.
    If you really want to play with different ppl just wait a few minutes before queuing again. Just wait until they get the Q pop (probably 4 or 5 minutes to be safe) and you're good.

    @Ithilwen.1529 said:
    I think the "why" is that builds have been made harder and harder to play. Contributing factors have been matchmaking and generally toxic atmosphere.
    I can't bring myself to log into The Mists most of the time these days.. I know I'm just going to get hammered.

    I wouldn't say builds are harder to play these days but to sustain the immense dps during teamfights or bursts in duels makes fights harder I guess.
    I agree on the toxicity tho, I think it wouldn't be too bad if chat was completely disabled during PvP matches. Getting flamed is very frustrating for the 'victim' and probably annoys the others as well. And a guy flaming is always some guy not actually playing so it's actually hindering several ppl at once.
    But I think it's important to point out that 'critisism != flaming'. Some people don't know the difference apparently. But if someone insults me or is really flaming me (which almost never happens anymore since I'm back in plat) I'm just instant blocking the dude tbh. And I'd advice everyone to do the same actually, it's just so much more enjoyable and I also play better without constant harassment.

    Chat can be helpful tho. Win quite a few matches because someone forms a plan and the team listens.

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Well population must be low.. How else can you explain i just finish my rank placement & won 8 out of 10 matches . & Got into platinum for the first time during placement. Usually i make it to gold. so this is telling me the only players left is hardcore pvper's. Thta would explain why Q's is so long.

  • bladezero.9470bladezero.9470 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vieux P.1238 said:
    Well population must be low.. How else can you explain i just finish my rank placement & won 8 out of 10 matches . & Got into platinum for the first time during placement. Usually i make it to gold. so this is telling me the only players left is hardcore pvper's. Thta would explain why Q's is so long.

    Placements draws an average of your past 2 seasons + 1200 rating. It is not a surprise to see better placements with the passing of each season. Next season will be even easier for you to place into plat so long as you keep up with your rating.

  • bladezero.9470bladezero.9470 Member ✭✭✭

    According to Gw2efficiency.com, I'm rank 1,150 with a rating of Gold 3 (1,481 rating). I am "higher than 86% of 8,692 accounts".

    Also according to GW2efficiency.com, current rank 1 this season is rated Legendary 1 (1,863 rating). This player, notably, has also played for 14,159 hours.

    The real question is do we think 8,692 active PvP seasonal players is too few? How much is enough?

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @bladezero.9470 said:

    @Vieux P.1238 said:
    Well population must be low.. How else can you explain i just finish my rank placement & won 8 out of 10 matches . & Got into platinum for the first time during placement. Usually i make it to gold. so this is telling me the only players left is hardcore pvper's. Thta would explain why Q's is so long.

    Placements draws an average of your past 2 seasons + 1200 rating. It is not a surprise to see better placements with the passing of each season. Next season will be even easier for you to place into plat so long as you keep up with your rating.

    Oh, that would be good but problem is that 2 season ago i made sure to lose every matches so i could be place at the bottom of the list. I was testing the theory. Despite that i got into silver. Last season i got into gold 1 & i let it decay as much as it was possible before then end of the season. So from what your saying is that both my low averages = Platinum 1 this season? Am i wrong to say there's something wrong with the math?

  • DoomNexus.5324DoomNexus.5324 Member ✭✭✭

    @bladezero.9470 said:
    The real question is do we think 8,692 active PvP seasonal players* is too few? How much is enough?

    *who are registered at gw2efficiency.

    @Vieux P.1238 said:

    @bladezero.9470 said:

    @Vieux P.1238 said:
    Well population must be low.. How else can you explain i just finish my rank placement & won 8 out of 10 matches . & Got into platinum for the first time during placement. Usually i make it to gold. so this is telling me the only players left is hardcore pvper's. Thta would explain why Q's is so long.

    Placements draws an average of your past 2 seasons + 1200 rating. It is not a surprise to see better placements with the passing of each season. Next season will be even easier for you to place into plat so long as you keep up with your rating.

    Oh, that would be good but problem is that 2 season ago i made sure to lose every matches so i could be place at the bottom of the list. I was testing the theory. Despite that i got into silver. Last season i got into gold 1 & i let it decay as much as it was possible before then end of the season. So from what your saying is that both my low averages = Platinum 1 this season? Am i wrong to say there's something wrong with the math?

    Afaik only the previous one is taken into account. Also the first few matches give MASSIVE points.. like if you win the first match you get around 90 rating.

  • Dami.5046Dami.5046 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2019

    You are really asking this and wondering...
    people want (mainly i'm sure) to play a game to relax and have fun, NOT have to deal with spiteful PM's and other text based abuse. I actually don't even enter the pvp lobby anymore because it makes my eyes bleed.
    Totally unnecessary.

  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭

    @bladezero.9470 said:
    According to Gw2efficiency.com, I'm rank 1,150 with a rating of Gold 3 (1,481 rating). I am "higher than 86% of 8,692 accounts".

    Also according to GW2efficiency.com, current rank 1 this season is rated Legendary 1 (1,863 rating). This player, notably, has also played for 14,159 hours.

    The real question is do we think 8,692 active PvP seasonal players is too few? How much is enough?

    That's 8,692 players in total. You have to consider the amount of players active at a time. There may only be like 2k of the 8k on at a time but we can't really know those numbers without Anet sharing them with us (they wont). Also, how many of the 8k just did placements and didn't play after that? Even assuming there are 8.6k players on concurrently (which there wont be) I still don't think that's high enough. The fewer players there are at once the harder it is to balance match making. That's also not 8.6k players in queue at once. Some of them will be in game, same of them will be taking a break in the lobby, ect. So out of 8.6k there may only be like 4.3k (realistically I would guess it's probably more like 1k>) for it to match you against. That's a pretty low number of data points for it to try and work out a balanced match from.

    No longer playing the game due to PvP being abandon.

  • Vancho.8750Vancho.8750 Member ✭✭✭

    They should shelve circle quest like the shelved stronghold, it is stale for veteran players and nightmare to get into as new player and don't get me started on the ranked system that forcefully pulls you to gold 2, i get they want the game to be feel good all around, but man getting kitten match win or lose is not feel good for pvp. Also the power creep and more exactly the spam creep, everything has to be dodged now and everyone has it off cd in 6 seconds so by reducing the skill cap on many classes made them easy to play but horror to play against and now you have to somehow follow several people small abilities cause they do kitten ton of damage anyway in the giant aoe fields of eye cancer.
    Shelve it and give people death match, its easy to understand kill the guy in red, sometimes you get and sometimes you get got but it ends fast and you go for the next one instead of the current one where you feel like you are playing Russian roulette with the matchmaker. You are with 4 other players and it only requires one to kitten up and ruin the game by trolling, afk or just getting matched out of their level( that's on the matchmaker), the other might be giving their all but it means nothing if someone is a dead weight.

  • Sampson.2403Sampson.2403 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vieux P.1238

    Oh, that would be good but problem is that 2 season ago i made sure to lose every matches so i could be place at the bottom of the list.

    Hehe, so are you admitting to match manipulation by throwing all your ranked games ? xD GUARDS, TAKE THIS MAN AWAY!

  • Jack Redline.5379Jack Redline.5379 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @tacoclaw.8251 said:

    @Ithilwen.1529 said:
    I think the "why" is that builds have been made harder and harder to play. Contributing factors have been matchmaking and generally toxic atmosphere.
    I can't bring myself to log into The Mists most of the time these days.. I know I'm just going to get hammered.

    Yeah, the game has gotten too insane on the build level. I seriously think it would be more fun if there were only 10 available builds and players had to choose as they see fit.

    Imagine if chess had 400 piece types from which the player had to choose the 6 they do play with? What a nightmare, because no normal person can spend the time learning all this stuff.

    As a rule keep the set pieces simple, but the strategy scaleable. GW2 has this backwards. Besides, does anyone really get excited they won because they had a better build and were able to corner and run down the inferior build?

    everyone does except for the normal ppl
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  • Given the state of the game i think the population is actually rather high. Im surprised so many people can tolerate it after all these years.

  • Jack Redline.5379Jack Redline.5379 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @bluri.2653 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    @Vieux P.1238

    Oh, that would be good but problem is that 2 season ago i made sure to lose every matches so i could be place at the bottom of the list.

    Hehe, so are you admitting to match manipulation by throwing all your ranked games ? xD GUARDS, TAKE THIS MAN AWAY!

    Ye fokken manipulator gg permban

    This was the first time i saw you saying something funny
    I neh-d have an upvote and a congratz comment

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    @Vieux P.1238

    Oh, that would be good but problem is that 2 season ago i made sure to lose every matches so i could be place at the bottom of the list.

    Hehe, so are you admitting to match manipulation by throwing all your ranked games ? xD GUARDS, TAKE THIS MAN AWAY!

    Plzzzzzzz, i din't do it for gold. I did it for the profit of science. & i learn one big thing. I learn no matter how much you throw away a match, the opponent team that wants to lose even more will give you away the win. NO MATTER HOW BAD YOU PLAY" I tell you, i was woken at that moment on how much the game need's to change if rank want's to see some kind of serious competitive gaming with in the community.

  • Sampson.2403Sampson.2403 Member ✭✭✭

    ^ TELL IT TO THE GUARDS BOI

  • bravan.3876bravan.3876 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2019

    @Vieux P.1238 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    @Vieux P.1238

    Oh, that would be good but problem is that 2 season ago i made sure to lose every matches so i could be place at the bottom of the list.

    Hehe, so are you admitting to match manipulation by throwing all your ranked games ? xD GUARDS, TAKE THIS MAN AWAY!

    Plzzzzzzz, i din't do it for gold. I did it for the profit of science. & i learn one big thing. I learn no matter how much you throw away a match, the opponent team that wants to lose even more will give you away the win. NO MATTER HOW BAD YOU PLAY" I tell you, i was woken at that moment on how much the game need's to change if rank want's to see some kind of serious competitive gaming with in the community.

    Yes it is indeed really hard work to lose when Matchmaking wants you on the winning side and that is no irony it is just how artificial the matchmanipu... i mean matchmaker works since S2

    "playing revenant is borderline exploiting" - up condimirage 2k18

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2019

    @bravan.3876 said:

    @Vieux P.1238 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    @Vieux P.1238

    Oh, that would be good but problem is that 2 season ago i made sure to lose every matches so i could be place at the bottom of the list.

    Hehe, so are you admitting to match manipulation by throwing all your ranked games ? xD GUARDS, TAKE THIS MAN AWAY!

    Plzzzzzzz, i din't do it for gold. I did it for the profit of science. & i learn one big thing. I learn no matter how much you throw away a match, the opponent team that wants to lose even more will give you away the win. NO MATTER HOW BAD YOU PLAY" I tell you, i was woken at that moment on how much the game need's to change if rank want's to see some kind of serious competitive gaming with in the community.

    Yes it is indeed really hard work to lose when Matchmaking wants you on the winning side and that is no irony it is just how artifical the matchmanipu... i mean matchmaker works since S2

    As i said, something is wrong with the math & they need to rethink the whole conquest thing. They should reconsider to start over. Class Builds & game mods & everything involving spvp. I'm just saying starting over might take less then 7 years to fix & balance & actually make it enjoyable.

  • bravan.3876bravan.3876 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2019

    @Vieux P.1238 said:

    @bravan.3876 said:

    @Vieux P.1238 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    @Vieux P.1238

    Oh, that would be good but problem is that 2 season ago i made sure to lose every matches so i could be place at the bottom of the list.

    Hehe, so are you admitting to match manipulation by throwing all your ranked games ? xD GUARDS, TAKE THIS MAN AWAY!

    Plzzzzzzz, i din't do it for gold. I did it for the profit of science. & i learn one big thing. I learn no matter how much you throw away a match, the opponent team that wants to lose even more will give you away the win. NO MATTER HOW BAD YOU PLAY" I tell you, i was woken at that moment on how much the game need's to change if rank want's to see some kind of serious competitive gaming with in the community.

    Yes it is indeed really hard work to lose when Matchmaking wants you on the winning side and that is no irony it is just how artifical the matchmanipu... i mean matchmaker works since S2

    As i said, something is wrong with the math & they need to rethink the whole conquest thing. They should reconsider to start over. Class Builds & game mods & everything involving spvp. I'm just saying starting over might take less then 7 years to fix & balance & actually make it enjoyable.

    They changed matchmaking after S2 means it got better in S3 already but they never fully fixed it. Remember in S2 where all accounts starting with average or above hidden mmr (means also complete new accounts, everything that had higher hidden mmr than amber division would require) could have 80+winstreak straight to legend and even Helseth claimed there is nothing wrong with the matchmaking? xD When the plan to make good ppl reach their division faster to reduce the rank difference fast and reduce uneven rankes in matches by making ppl climb faster to where the matchmaking thinks they belong completely failed? Problem is, matchmaking has no right to think! Because it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Another unfair part is, that matchmaking tries to make average mmr in a match for both teams even. Means when you are like plat 3 you can get 4 gold 2 ppl who you are supposed to carry vs 5 plat 1 ppl. In case you can't be everywhere at the same time it is impossible to carry. But because you lose vs lower ppl than you are (plat3 compared to plat1) you lose 25+rating for a match your 4 teammates got rekt everywhere you are not involved. And in case you managed to carry these unfun games somehow you get +5 as reward. Not even enough that you can rent a nice room in a nice motel with a nice pool to relax for few days after such exhausting games.

    Why is mmr watching for average team mmr during matchmaking but for personal mmr vs enemie team for the rankpoints? At least that is how it looks for me...

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  • It got so bad that i queued with silvers at like 3am pst... i was at 1500ish rating and only got 4 elo for winning. Everyone was utter garbo that game. I was a thief that bunkered against a scrapper and scourge on node.

  • @LolLookAtMyAP.8394 said:
    It got so bad that i queued with silvers at like 3am pst... i was at 1500ish rating and only got 4 elo for winning. Everyone was utter garbo that game. I was a thief that bunkered against a scrapper and scourge on node.

    It was worth it the ridicolus story now you can tell xD

  • EremiteAngel.9765EremiteAngel.9765 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Why don't we bring PvP to Open World PvE maps?
    That will help solve the population problems :no_mouth:

    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/80110/shall-we-introduce-open-world-pvp-to-pve-maps

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  • @EremiteAngel.9765 said:
    Why don't we bring PvP to Open World PvE maps?
    That will help solve the population problems :no_mouth:

    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/80110/shall-we-introduce-open-world-pvp-to-pve-maps

    This would only create more problems due to skills being different and because almost all of pve is cooperative.

  • ZhouX.8742ZhouX.8742 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ithilwen.1529 said:
    I think the "why" is that builds have been made harder and harder to play. Contributing factors have been matchmaking and generally toxic atmosphere.
    I can't bring myself to log into The Mists most of the time these days.. I know I'm just going to get hammered.

    I think the diversity is more healthy honestly. I mean balance.... maybe yea , obviously will be an ongoing issue with PvP in any game but diversity is never truly a bad thing.

    One main thing you start to realize over years of PvP is simply put that people just get better over time, so you have to try harder than before and in Gw2's more contained PvP community you're usually going against the same people in higher tiers especially. You yourself might not be scaling as well as the current population is in terms of skill. I don't think that's a problem with game design.

    One main issue and common issue eventually people struggle with is multi-classing and multi-build practicing. This is an essential part of PvP in any game and in order to get much better consistently you have to play everything and learn them consistently against good players and that involves knowing a lot of builds and their weaknesses..

    I think this is one of the things that actually keeps the game interesting, for me at least especially.

    On toxicity, if you take toxicity seriously then this is kind of what separates a lot of good players vs bad... Example: See Phantaram ... You don't always need to take every little thing to heart when playing and just personally focus on getting better and ignore the drama/toxicity. It's going to happen anyway whether you're good or bad so the best route to take is to just focus on getting better.

  • Daishi.6027Daishi.6027 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It's almost as if people are tired of 7ish years of conquest with weird metas, backed by perpetually unbalanced skirmishes and duels.
    Where anyone new looking in is just like "LOL, I'll pass..."

  • Crozame.4098Crozame.4098 Member ✭✭

    Time zones mate....

  • zoopop.5630zoopop.5630 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Crozame.4098 said:
    Time zones mate....

    would fix MOST of the "OFF" hours for rank.

  • Falan.1839Falan.1839 Member ✭✭✭

    Tbh I've seen quite a few NA players on EU in the last days, so it's kind of happening already on a smaller scale.

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  • crepuscular.9047crepuscular.9047 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Taygus.4571 said:
    ping....lag would be a big one.

    as an OCE player, we are always handicapped by 300+ ping

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  • Dave.6819Dave.6819 Member ✭✭✭

    @zoopop.5630 said:
    Is there a reason why Eu and Na can't be combined ?

    u r asking a wrong question. u should ask "why ppl don't play pvp anymore?". merging would just be a temporary solution. it's like merging servers in other games which are in decline. FIX pvp and we won't need a merge. or merge pvp.. and leave it as it is.. and population will still be goin down. no permanent solution in that.

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  • Trevor Boyer.6524Trevor Boyer.6524 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 21, 2019

    @Falan.1839 said:
    Tbh I've seen quite a few NA players on EU in the last days, so it's kind of happening already on a smaller scale.

    I've been considering it myself. Everyone that switches to EU says the match quality is much better. I just fear ping issues.

  • rwolf.9571rwolf.9571 Member ✭✭✭

    I already have skill lag of 1/2-1 second with 100ms ping. can't imagine adding another 200-500ms!

  • Snellibee.2761Snellibee.2761 Member ✭✭✭

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

    @zoopop.5630 said:
    Is there a reason why Eu and Na can't be combined ?

    It's something that just needs to happen at this point. Gotta be a way a to mediate the ping issues.

    You're not very bright if you think NA and EU can be combined in any game p0g

  • Falan.1839Falan.1839 Member ✭✭✭

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

    @Falan.1839 said:
    Tbh I've seen quite a few NA players on EU in the last days, so it's kind of happening already on a smaller scale.

    I've been considering it myself. Everyone that switches to EU says the match quality is much better. I just fear ping issues.

    Well, you can try it out with an F2P Acc and see if you feel any delay.

    Falásya / Caissech

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    When exactly do you mean?
    See I've already waited too long
    And all my hope is gone"
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  • Vancho.8750Vancho.8750 Member ✭✭✭

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

    @Falan.1839 said:
    Tbh I've seen quite a few NA players on EU in the last days, so it's kind of happening already on a smaller scale.

    I've been considering it myself. Everyone that switches to EU says the match quality is much better. I just fear ping issues.

    Some days it feels good others feels like the game is putting you with people that just started the game. Sometimes it feels like people understand what you want to do and you are on the same page and you coordinate your skills like you are standing next to each other and other times it feels like they do everything to undermine your build and effort. The second happens more often. Best time to get the first kind is after work hours in EU. And if you are at high rate you have to be careful and manage to smell out the cheater board day, where some people pad their rating or try to knock off other players from the board with smurfing or trolling or whatever other shenanigans (gets really political some days for some reason), so careful to don't get into the crossfire.

  • bravan.3876bravan.3876 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vancho.8750 said:

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

    @Falan.1839 said:
    Tbh I've seen quite a few NA players on EU in the last days, so it's kind of happening already on a smaller scale.

    I've been considering it myself. Everyone that switches to EU says the match quality is much better. I just fear ping issues.

    Some days it feels good others feels like the game is putting you with people that just started the game. Sometimes it feels like people understand what you want to do and you are on the same page and you coordinate your skills like you are standing next to each other and other times it feels like they do everything to undermine your build and effort. The second happens more often. Best time to get the first kind is after work hours in EU. And if you are at high rate you have to be careful and manage to smell out the cheater board day, where some people pad their rating or try to knock off other players from the board with smurfing or trolling or whatever other shenanigans (gets really political some days for some reason), so careful to don't get into the crossfire.

    Yeah it would be good to know and join the wintrader discord, not to participate but to at least know when not to q...

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