Now that all Elder Dragons are dead, is there even a reason for Mists War anymore?

[Guy.9207]

Supposedly that's the main reason each world fights one another for pretty much eternally in the Mists. With the way story's going though, it might be easy to assume in average Tyrian eye's that all the threats are gone, and thus Mists War is no longer necessary. Why would they still fight in the Mists still, then?

[Randulf.7614]

Well, theyre not all dead for starters. Theres still one left

Also, if they are dead in one World are they dead in all Worlds? Was there multiple Kralks rampaging around The Mists at one point? I cant remember how the lore worked for that

Edited August 27, 2021 by Randulf.7614

[Parthenos Polias.5683]

They are supposed to be dead for every World since there is no divergence based on probability between worlds.
Each server is a World, a version, of Tyria.
As on each server players have killed 5 elder dragons, they are dead in each word.

But there is still one elder dragon remaining so the purpose of the Mist War is still up to date.

[DanAlcedo.3281]

We are fighting over resources in the mist. 

Atleast that's how I remember it. 

 

[Fueki.4753]

Just because the reason for the starting the war is (almost) gone, doesn't mean the war is going to stop.

There still are plenty of resources to pillage.

[Touchme.1097]

There are currently 2 Elder Dragons alive and one of them is Aurene. Even if there were none the Mist war would continue for resources, glory and territorial control. A treaty of peace between worlds would mean the end of GW2.

[The Greyhawk.9107]

I don't recall the ED's having anything to do with the lore of the Mist Wars, what little of it there was in the first place.

[Konig Des Todes.2086]

On 8/27/2021 at 8:41 PM, The Greyhawk.9107 said:

I don't recall the ED's having anything to do with the lore of the Mist Wars, what little of it there was in the first place.

It's the primary cause of it per Jeff Grubb back in 2014. The Mist War's original purpose was to gather resources from the Mists for Tyrians to combat the Elder Dragons. Then different Tyrias crossed paths and they began viewing each other as unrelenting evil forces to fight.

This was reflected in the mechanics of WvW where depending on your placement in your match, your server would gain bonuses like +% chance to get extra materials from gathering nodes, higher magic/gold/karma find, etc. These mechanics were removed with megaservers though, but no real update on the lore of the Mist Wars.

[Trejgon.9367]

16 hours ago, Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

These mechanics were removed with megaservers though,

I was quite sure they removedthem a bit before megaserver update....

 

other thatn that.... yeah what you said 🙂

[Quench.7091]

On 8/27/2021 at 8:41 PM, The Greyhawk.9107 said:

I don't recall the ED's having anything to do with the lore of the Mist Wars, what little of it there was in the first place.

There might be something. Mai Trin, via hologram, can be seen talking to an Aetherblade captain within the Edge of the Mists. We might've stepped on her toes with our war.

[Telwyn.1630]

One more the Sea Elder Dragon is left. The last one to fight.

[Bristingr.5034]

On 8/27/2021 at 9:17 AM, Touchme.1097 said:

There are currently 2 Elder Dragons alive and one of them is Aurene. Even if there were none the Mist war would continue for resources, glory and territorial control. A treaty of peace between worlds would mean the end of GW2.

 

14 minutes ago, Telwyn.1630 said:

One more the Sea Elder Dragon is left. The last one to fight.

Don't forget about Aurene. She needs to go as well.

[maxwelgm.4315]

The Mist Wars is historically trivial to justify. Tyria just found a practically infinite source of wealth to pillage in the form of entire other Tyrias - the dragons are a mere afterthought for the ones now accumulating said wealth such as the Black Lion. It can safely exist as long as GW2 does and still be canon and justifiable simply because it is what it is

[Poormany.4507]

In the Warclaw lore book collection, it has this comment, claiming that the Mists War is in a fractal-like state, so I would guess the Mists War is still at the state it was in originally, before any elder dragons were killed.
"We have long believed that these battlegrounds exist in a repetitious "fractal state." This term was coined by the asuran Mistlock Observatory, which is itself trapped within in a fractal state.(We are aware of the irony, although they may not be.) One of the chief characteristics of a fractal is its impermanence. Events eventually reset to a default origin state regardless of actions taken therein. The second chief characteristic is that subjects of a fractal cannot be removed from their environment just as a reflection cannot be removed from a mirror."

 

Edited January 3, 2022 by Poormany.4507

[Dawanarth.4601]

On 8/29/2021 at 8:34 PM, Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

It's the primary cause of it per Jeff Grubb back in 2014. The Mist War's original purpose was to gather resources from the Mists for Tyrians to combat the Elder Dragons. Then different Tyrias crossed paths and they began viewing each other as unrelenting evil forces to fight.

This was reflected in the mechanics of WvW where depending on your placement in your match, your server would gain bonuses like +% chance to get extra materials from gathering nodes, higher magic/gold/karma find, etc. These mechanics were removed with megaservers though, but no real update on the lore of the Mist Wars.

That would be likely in real life, if there were different Colonial powers that would have gone to search for resources for a war, they would still try to keep those even after the war (Because resources are always useful)

[Leo.3428]

Don't give ANet ideas and excuses to shut down WvW 😉

But I'm not getting it, if the alternate worlds massacre each other, they weaken each other rather than gathering resources, don't they?

Edited January 6, 2022 by Leo.3428