Borked.6824 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Just get it over with, buy it, play it legitimately 2 weeks, then go back to old content like the rest of us. Then you can at least have a story to tell your grandkids that you've learned from your mistakes. Edited March 23, 2022 by Borked.6824 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lottie.5370 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hypnowulf.7403 said: I'm a little weary of the sudden influx of positive users saying much the same thing after the reception has been so negative for so long. I think some might be sincere but, yes, it smells a little like marketing. Right now, there are still too many issues. And the story is very hit or miss, depending on what you want from it you'll either love it or hate it. And the ending is just a mess that makes the Commander feel like a psychopath. The advice is the same I would sagely give to anyone, and it isn't either of thoe poll options. My advice: Wait. Look into the story. If you like the look of it, that's fine. There's a lot of melancholy, pseudointellectual nihilism, Millennial-speak, and rushed aspects going on where things feel like they're just beginning to get fleshed out before getting discarded. And again, that ending. The game has a lot of bugs right now. A multitude, you might even say it has a plethora. It is a great many bugs, an insecte ménagerie. It has lots of bad graphical issues, balance issues aplenty, and... Just read some of the threads here. It's a mess. Like the Jade Maw meta being only doable if you have below 10 people (impossible with 15+), the Dragon's End meta being... the Dragon's End meta... There's stuff that won't get fixed such as the zones being so oppressively empty, lacking in environmental storytelling, sidequests, and the like. Hence, wait. Some of these issues will be resolved. If the storyline is to your liking and you don't mind the whole thing feeling half-baked and empty? Grab it for cheapsies. You'll do better just researching for a bit, reading around, watching some videos, and so on. Impulse buys never helped anyone. They just lead to cognitive dissonance and the sunk-cost fallacy. You're really better off just waiting to see how much they fix and improve. I would disagree with most of this. The maps are not empty, I've been playing in EoD every day since launch and there's plenty of people about, and there's always loads of meta maps to do those events. Just running around doing story, events or fishing; I am always seeing people. I even see a lot of people out fishing in the rest of the game, especially on the daily fish maps - those maps are feeling more alive to me than they have in a long time. Dragon's End is in a fine state, you can join pretty much any map and succeed most of the time after the changes, and the fight feels so much better than it did. Jade Maw, one side event in DE, has horrible scaling to the point of being impossible if a ton of people show up - yes. I don't think that's a notable reason for you not to bother with the xpac. There's obviously other bugs too, mostly with achievements in my experience. Have not noticed any graphical issues, but I'm also still on DX9. Overall loved the story, maps are beautiful, there's loads to do and fishing is fun. If you enjoy GW2 and you want more, and you like the idea of Cantha, you are probably going to enjoy it. Personally it's my favourite expansion so far. 2 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya.9075 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Buy. You get so much content for the money spent. If you enjoy gw2 it’s really worth it. I’ve had tons of fun so far and will have fun for hundreds of hours with this expansion. Beautiful maps, good story, skiffs and fishing is a lot of fun and i really enjoy the metas on the maps. they did really well with this expansion. Bugs and hiccups along the way is to be expected. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya.9075 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, Hypnowulf.7403 said: I'm a little weary of the sudden influx of positive users saying much the same thing after the reception has been so negative for so long. I think some might be sincere but, yes, it smells a little like marketing. Right now, there are still too many issues. And the story is very hit or miss, depending on what you want from it you'll either love it or hate it. And the ending is just a mess that makes the Commander feel like a psychopath. The advice is the same I would sagely give to anyone, and it isn't either of thoe poll options. My advice: Wait. Look into the story. If you like the look of it, that's fine. There's a lot of melancholy, pseudointellectual nihilism, Millennial-speak, and rushed aspects going on where things feel like they're just beginning to get fleshed out before getting discarded. And again, that ending. The game has a lot of bugs right now. A multitude, you might even say it has a plethora. It is a great many bugs, an insecte ménagerie. It has lots of bad graphical issues, balance issues aplenty, and... Just read some of the threads here. It's a mess. Like the Jade Maw meta being only doable if you have below 10 people (impossible with 15+), the Dragon's End meta being... the Dragon's End meta... There's stuff that won't get fixed such as the zones being so oppressively empty, lacking in environmental storytelling, sidequests, and the like. Hence, wait. Some of these issues will be resolved. If the storyline is to your liking and you don't mind the whole thing feeling half-baked and empty? Grab it for cheapsies. You'll do better just researching for a bit, reading around, watching some videos, and so on. Impulse buys never helped anyone. They just lead to cognitive dissonance and the sunk-cost fallacy. You're really better off just waiting to see how much they fix and improve. The first part of this post makes no sense to me. Why are the positive responses to the expansion worth less then the negative for some reason? You have read many negative things here in forums, since it’s here they come to complain. Most players who enjoy the game doesn’t come here to say they do. If you check the game itself, I’ve seen mostly positive reactions about eod. The exception is dragons end which is understandable, but does not make the whole expansion worthless. 6 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch of Doom.5739 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 My advice is neither skip nor buy, it's WAIT. I preordered but got very frustrated with all the bugs and lack of decent loot, so I've taken a step back for the time being, until things are fixed/improved. And I do think they'll get better -- take HoT as an example. I hated that at first and left it until they fine-tuned it, and now I love playing its content. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zok.4956 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, CoolRanchDoritos.5340 said: So tell me the truth boys and girls, SKIP or BUY and WHY? You already started a thread about this. Why are you creating another thread about the same topic? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspirine.6852 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 It added raid/elitist mentality to Open world 😄 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Zen.9364 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, CoolRanchDoritos.5340 said: So tell me the truth boys and girls, SKIP or BUY and WHY? I'd say buy it, in a month or two after the bugs have been ironed out. We still see daily dev posts investigating known issues (even though they haven't updated the known issues since March 3). This will be a fine expansion once they get past this beta launch. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) It so depends on what you like about GW2 and in MMOs in general. EoD has been good for some, not for others. Your best bet would be to see what people are saying about it. See if the things people are complaining about matter to you, and if the things people are praising seem worthwhile to you. Edited March 23, 2022 by Gibson.4036 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razadune.9260 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Lottie.5370 said: The maps are not empty, I've been playing in EoD every day since launch and there's plenty of people about, and there's always loads of meta maps to do those events. This hasn't been my experience at all. 3 hours ago, Lottie.5370 said: Dragon's End is in a fine state, you can join pretty much any map and succeed most of the time after the changes, This is just straight lying, and is absolutely not even remotely true. I think the expansion is worth it for the new specs, personally, and fishing can be fun. If those are worth enough to buy the expansion to someone then I'd recommend it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekhaa.2748 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 For me it's a skip, i was ready to buy eod at launch but after reading the patchnote, it's a no, nerf everyone before a release is the worst idea i ever seen in a mmo. They want people to buy EoD at this point? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lottie.5370 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, tclark.8956 said: This is just straight lying, and is absolutely not even remotely true. I've failed the meta only one time since the changes, and most of the time there's several minutes left. Always with groups from LFG or commanders already on my map. I'd argue that is a fine state. Is the fight perfect? No, of course things can be improved (like the consistency of attacks), but you've always got a decent chance of succeeding if people actually try. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razadune.9260 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Lottie.5370 said: I've failed the meta only one time since the changes, and most of the time there's several minutes left. Always with groups from LFG or commanders already on my map. I'd argue that is a fine state. Playing in prime time tonight we didn't even have enough people to start 2 of the 3 groups moving south. I stood alone at the western one waiting for people until it was obvious we'd never make the timer, so I finally just logged off. Mine nor Caithe's group still hadn't moved when I logged off. Playing this afternoon we got the farthest I've ever gotten on the map and failed before even getting to Soo-Won. Last night my second try failed by running out of time getting through the barriers to kill the dragons (it failed while we were about 60% left on the last dragon). I stayed and did what I could to build up the map after that and try again, we failed before ever even getting all the way south. I joined in the middle of another attempt to start the night, and my first attempt failed at the barriers, too. It's either from lack of players entirely, or because you don't have enough to start it on time and push south immediately to save timer, or whatever the reason is, but the changes were focused on Soo-Won's damage in that fight and that's not even the problem with the map in the first place. I haven't seen any indication at all that the average map even gets that far. In six attempts, I've never even seen the fight with her. I hadn't played the map prior to the changes. I'm glad you've been able to finish it, but the idea that you can join any map and succeed is just wrong. I've never seen a group fail at the last fight, random maps don't even get that far. Going by GW2Efficiency less than 14% of the accounts with EoD on that site (and that's probably more representative of hardcore players than the truth) have the achievement for finishing the meta in Dragon's End, so it seems extremely unlikely that my experience is out of the ordinary. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Have you tried using the LFG tool to either find a group to join or advertise your map so people can come and join you? The main thing this event needs is enough people, so there will be a big difference between the maps where people are gathering and the ones automatically opened by the game because so many people are coming in but which are then abandoned by people moving to the group maps. You don't need to join one of the groups with absurd requirements, just one which says they're grouping up for the meta is enough. Also at this point I think some of the 'stricter' groups are an intentional joke. I saw one yesterday demanding 250 Slothasor kill proofs and insisting no other raid boss would be accepted, which makes no sense at all. It also helps to call out what needs doing in map chat - like telling people if there isn't enough people for one of the escort events. Even in well organised maps there can be a problem where a lot of people will just follow the commander or mentor tag and not realise they need to split up. I've seen some commanders handling that by assigning whichever sub groups they trust most to the middle lane with instructions to split up after that, assign a lieutenant and the majority of the squad to one side lane and take the other one themselves with a smaller group, knowing that in practice a lot of people who should be in another lane will follow them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticReaper.4318 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) if you are physically challenged and have a someone nearby to help you and do not care about a sense of accomplishment by playing by yourself and like fishing and skiffing then buy it. if you are physically challenged and frustrated for constantly needing help and care about a sense of accomplishment and know about other mmo games where you can play the mmo in its entirety with and without a group, do not buy it and move on. Edited March 28, 2022 by MysticReaper.4318 grammar correction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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