Rose Solane.1027 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Call me crazy but for quite some time I had the feeling that ArenaNet was in the process of ending the story of Guild Wars 2. Two elder dragons killed in one (disappointing) end of the story line of one of those elder dragons. End of Dragons as the name of the third expansion. The end of the run for Guild Wars 2 was near, time for Guild Wars 3!. And then the announcement came that we would get a new form of expansions for Guild Wars 2. Now we have the first announcement of what will be in Secrets of the Obscure, the first expansion of the new type. I look at it and think: Is this really the type of content, of changes, that I want for an expansion? My answer is no, I want Guild Wars 3. And looking at the announcement of Secrets of the Obscure I think that ArenaNet wanted Guild Wars 3 too, but had to continue making content for Guild Wars 2. 10 1 3 46 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rose Solane.1027 said: Call me crazy but for quite some time I had the feeling that ArenaNet was in the process of ending the story of Guild Wars 2. Obviously not. 😉 6 minutes ago, Rose Solane.1027 said: Now we have the first announcement of what will be in Secrets of the Obscure, the first expansion of the new type. I look at it and think: Is this really the type of content, of changes, that I want for an expansion? My answer is no, I want Guild Wars 3. And looking at the announcement of Secrets of the Obscure I think that ArenaNet wanted Guild Wars 3 too, but had to continue making content for Guild Wars 2. What difference does it make whether they alter GW2 in a positive way and update/expand its features or create a whole new GW game? Other than people having to start from scratch with a GW3 game, that is. What do you not like about the SotO announcement? I think it's sounding very promising -- better than anything we've heard in years. Edited June 29, 2023 by Ashantara.8731 3 7 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vares.8457 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Rose Solane.1027 said: I want Guild Wars 3 I don’t want Guild Wars 3. 35 7 5 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batalix.2873 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ashantara.8731 said: Obviously not. 😉 What difference does it make whether they alter GW2 in a positive way and update/expand its features or create a whole new GW game? Other than people having to start from scratch with a GW3 game, that is. What do you not like about the SotO announcement? I think it's sounding very promising -- better than anything we've heard in years. I don't call these alterations positive. For the most part they seem like a hackjob, tearing down and parting out pieces of a perfectly good machine. Very little in SotO is new, and most of everything else needed to break down, dilute, or obviate older designs/features to justify itself. Which...as a general principle I could contextually swallow. But not as we have specifically seen implemented so far. Edited June 30, 2023 by Batalix.2873 4 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patton the great.7126 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 When they made this decision back in gw1 it took what 6-7 years for new content in the form of gw2. Be careful what you wish for. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 After EoD.. Raids, Fractals and so much mtx.. I'm not sure i want a Guildwars 3 at this point. Becareful what you wish for. 3 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serephen.3420 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Making a 3rd guild wars would be a sure fire way to sink the company. So unless you want that, it's a big no from me. 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biziut.3594 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Wasnt't ANet saying like a thousand times, to calm ppls like you, to not worry about the ending of gw2, becouse they still have many plans for this game. 10 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthan.5236 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Afaik someone mentioned they were looking for devs for a new game. Then people were speculating about GW3. Not sure how I feel about this. And how long it would take and if I even want it. Still happy with GW2 - and it hopefully will support Win 7 for a bit in the future. Not playing a lot and I would not want to buy a new computer just because of one game. (Might not buy GW3.) Electricity and hardware is expensive nowadays. Prefer to stay on the lower end of the hardware specs. They could as well develop some other games though. Not sure they they only are going to stay wigh GW2 + expansions or sequels exclusively. This expansion seems interesting. Release frequency is still okay. And the planned content. I just fear they might push them out too fast - afaik that's what is planned. Bringing another one in late 2024 already. (They should wait at least until early 2025 ... keeping it at 1-1.5 years ... maybe 1.25 years until the next one.) Also the amount of options will be limited. Especially since a lot of stuff gets deal with now. Leaving less options to include new content later. (Unless they really want to focus on maps and story missions only - which would not be that bad if quality there increased.) GW3 would just be simlar stuff with a new engine - set in the future in Tyria. (Upcoming expansions could prepare for it like EotN in GW1 lead into GW2?) Also: Pretty costly and then they'd have to compete with other big MMORPG out there again (that use new engines and modern graphics and stuff) ... while maybe losing some people on the lower/casual end of the gaming spectrum that prefer to use an old computer and like GW2 just for what it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 I'm wondering when these types of threads after each expansion reveal will finally stop. Ah, probably never. 😉 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 You don't need to buy the new expansion or even keep playing GW2 if you don't want to, but I think it's a mistake to hold back on what we're actually getting because you imagined they might make something else instead (or as well). Anet have never even hinted that they're making GW3 or have considered making it. There's 1 unannounced project they're hiring people for (in addition to hiring more people to work on GW2) but based on the job descriptions (which is the only info we have) that's something entirely different. This post reminds me of the people who haven't bought anything Nintendo has made for the last couple of years because they're permanently convinced that a Switch Pro or Switch 2 is going to be announced in the next couple of months and when it is all the games they want - and could be playing - now will be available as day 1 ports with upgraded graphics so they just keep waiting and never get to play them at all. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandrefalk.6823 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 A lot of nice things they can still do for GW2 with expansions, why do people want Guild Wars 3...!?!? All those people screaming over changes invalidating their hard-earned progress; an entirely new game, is the worst kind of invalidation, I think "Remastered" editions or "Fresh Start" servers are probably the only thing worse... 😄 (said in jest, but the point is I've no use for GW3 at this time) 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chichimec.9364 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Add me to the list of those not particularly interested in GW3. At this point I've got a lot invested in this game and I am still very much enjoying GW2 so the idea of starting all over in a new game is less than thrilling to me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beleron.9347 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 If Anet were to make a new game, I'd rather see a single player RPG set in Tyria. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rose Solane.1027 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) To address the questions and the concerns raised after my initial post: I don't see a lot of promising features in the announcement for SotO. See the post from Batalix.2873. If GW2 would be altered in a positive way there would not be a lot of reasons for a new game, but SotO is not altering the game in a positive way. I understand that the development of GW3 could/would take several years. I just think it was on the table a few years ago, and it isn't any more. So we have to live with expansions. If ArenaNet still have many plans for GW2 I really hope we will see them. I am not talking about the story, we simply don't know enough of what SotO will bring us story wise. But the features they announced for SotO are not very impressive. Some of them would be great for a new game, not so much for an 11 year old game. I specifically don't think the rune changes as announced make a whole lot of sense for an 11 year old game. This is the first time I make a thread about a new game after the announcement for a expansion. This is the first expansion after THE story of GW2 ended. It would be a natural end of the game. Read the first paragraph of my post, it was there for a reason. A new story could work, but some of the announced changes are more suitable for a new game. I see that I am repeating myself. I still think that ArenaNet was in the process of ending GW2 a few years ago and that something happened. Now they are going to release new expansions of a new type. I am not impressed so far, I think a lot of the "new" features don't make a lot of sense for an expansion of an 11 year old game. I am not sure if I will buy SotO and I have always said that the moment I don't buy the newest expansion is the moment I will stop playing GW2. Would I buy a new game, GW3? Probably. Edited June 30, 2023 by Rose Solane.1027 small edit 1 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moony.5780 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) Gw3 means...people gona lose all their things they got through spending thousands of hours and also a lot of money they spent on the gem store. I guess i would just stop playing gw2 after spending 5000 of hours in it and 1000€. And i would only remember how much i wasted and not how much fun i had. My husband dont play gw2 with me, because he keeps whining about his old gw1 acc and how sad he is. Same would happen with gw2 and gw3. I think they can add nice things with expansions. Tho i hope they make smart changes and make old content more and better playable. That there is a permanent reason to go back. Especially also small group or even solo/duo open world content and not another 10000 meta event. Edited June 30, 2023 by moony.5780 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather.6401 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 I would love a game like guild wars 1, but with jumping and swimming. 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 I think that going forward with content GW2 retains more players, than there would be players jumping onto GW3 and start over from nothing (again). 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronospere.8143 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) There is only a small group of people who were thinking gw3 would happen in the near future. The group who wants gw3 is also pretty small. There is no point in gw history devs made any indication they werent done with gw2. Its been clear for years that they were very excited telling new stories in the gw2 world after the dragon cycle. P.s. to be clear, if gw3 would happen i would have serious doubts if i would continue in gw world. Edited June 30, 2023 by Cronospere.8143 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronospere.8143 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, Redfeather.6401 said: I would love a game like guild wars 1, but with jumping and swimming. Guild wars 2? 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Cronospere.8143 said: Guild wars 2? Not really all that close to GW1 mechanically and even some of the lore was retconned for GW2. 6 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moony.5780 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ashen.2907 said: Not really all that close to GW1 mechanically and even some of the lore was retconned for GW2. True. Gw1 is totally different than gw2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 If they can’t handle a bigger expac, why would anyone hope a new, full mmo? Id rather continue my progress in this game than start afresh. If it means less content and new features as trade off for continuation, then that is fine 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathPanel.8362 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 There's no reason for GW3. There's still plenty of the world map left to explore and tech hasn't advanced far enough to justify creating a whole new game. It would just end up being a stripped-down GW2 with slightly better graphics and maybe engine optimizations. ANET's better off building on existing mechanics and optimizing the GW2 engine and upgrading graphics. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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