Arheundel.6451 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 ...and I say it as somebody who spent 10k hours on ele....you should not be able to DPS people to death with the auto-attack. I am happy to see ele where it is now, but I never asked for really dumb designs necro style. I'd say to remove the secondary burning from the auto-attack. 10 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semak.7481 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 For the first time we can agree on something. Machine gun burning spam is dumb af, who could have thought its dumb? Defo not 🤡M🤡 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollingDemigod.3041 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Harbinger, Reaper, Ranger, Teef(all), Renegade, Mirage and many others that can do exactly same kitten: - YEA, NERF ELE, BUSTED AA! Lmao, wrote about it when they buffed Scepter. 5 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said: things Wait, what's the busted mesmer AA now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semak.7481 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, Terrorhuz.4695 said: Wait, what's the busted mesmer AA now? I dont know any condi auto attack that is not a hot garbage w/o a 3 clones smacking you for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowki.7194 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) The real issue is that ranked pretty much dictates you to lean heavy into condi or heavy into power, yet ele is hybrid. If you lean too much into condi then the power side ob abilities does such mediocre damage due to the cast times and having low crit/no fercocity. To do much else but auto attack does less total dps (as far as I can tell). In a hybrid/celestial setup, you get a lot more use from the power side of the other abilities, which then gives you burst, with additional condi pressure. I played heavy condi tempest long enough to know that while you can just ''autoattack'' the damage ramps up slowly, and is easy to clense, its not as good as you think on good players, who can force you into other stances where your damage pretty much grinds to a hault. The new signet changes have really improved on that, since you can still apply good fire/bleed pressure when in other stances. The only reason I use pheonix etc on heavy condi, is to bait their dodges so I can land signets. What Im trying to say, I guess.. is that a celestial style amulet is needed for ele, or else this is the result. Wizzard amulet is about as close as you can get currently, but the lack of ferocity, while crit is still quite low, its not as good as pure condi (or pure power) I find. Especially given the signet changes, which heavily favour condi. Edited July 1, 2023 by Flowki.7194 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmTheStorm.2364 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 I really hate how flamestrike is a projectile-less ranged attack with no animation besides the ele hand gesture. You don't even realize what's hitting you until you notice an increasing amount of burning appearing on your bar. Plus, the inability to reflect the cast or jiggle-step or whatever to make the projectile miss makes the ability even stronger. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morwath.9817 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, CalmTheStorm.2364 said: I really hate how flamestrike is a projectile-less ranged attack with no animation besides the ele hand gesture. You don't even realize what's hitting you until you notice an increasing amount of burning appearing on your bar. Plus, the inability to reflect the cast or jiggle-step or whatever to make the projectile miss makes the ability even stronger. Imho they should turn all ranged offensive attacks into projectiles. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles.5632 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) GW2 is CMC's game and he balances around what he plays, which is ele. It's so bad now that even ele mains are beginning to take notice. Edited July 1, 2023 by Waffles.5632 6 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philvaneyck.1932 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 The change to the castingspeed was unnecessary. They should fix burning damage in pvp. It is no fun anymore, you only die from burning in all builds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 2 hours ago, semak.7481 said: For the first time we can agree on something. There should be a big red light & siren in the Arenanet office that goes off whenever someone in the forum agrees with Arheundel so they can be sure to know that something is seriously going wrong with their game, so they can immediately drop what they are doing to go hotfix the issue. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Only overperforming in the hands of cata (quickness) a class the can spam prot, condi cleans and stab on top of it and basically free cast while facetanking any aggression 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles.5632 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 12:27 PM, Trevor Boyer.6524 said: There should be a big red light & siren in the Arenanet office that goes off whenever someone in the forum agrees with Arheundel so they can be sure to know that something is seriously going wrong with their game, so they can immediately drop what they are doing to go hotfix the issue. The silver lining in all these ele buffs has been bringing everyone together tbh. I've never seen so many pvpers all agree like this before. @Cal Cohen.2358 Ele is out of control and it's your fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semak.7481 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Waffles.5632 said: @Cal Cohen.2358 Ele is out of control and it's your fault. He's right now 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeRetroHunter.7684 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Anyone have a build link for me to try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron.1294 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 @Khalisto.5780condi tempest also can do it and it's also obnoxious - obv not as well as cata but still auto that can't be reflected has 0 travel time and is RANGED shouldn't deal dat much dmg - never 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron.1294 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 oh also forgot it has like 0 aftercast too because why not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 This post is like 6 months late. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 I remember saying how strong this was a long time ago then they buffed it slightly for absolutely no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowki.7194 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, apharma.3741 said: I remember saying how strong this was a long time ago then they buffed it slightly for absolutely no reason. Yeah I was mocked a few times for using scepter. It was sub optimal in the grand scheme of being a support, but it gave you that dmg needed when dps didn't know what to do, while still having decent support utility. Now its basically a better dps than most dps, killing enemy is the best form of support. Edited July 1, 2023 by Flowki.7194 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 What the real issue here.....auto attacks? OR how conditions get applied to people. Why isn't the power hits from the auto a problem? Just the condi part. Maybe not ever single hit should apply conditions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said: There should be a big red light & siren in the Arenanet office that goes off whenever someone in the forum agrees with Arheundel so they can be sure to know that something is seriously going wrong with their game, so they can immediately drop what they are doing to go hotfix the issue. The vast majority of players care not about general balance and only agree on Nerfs when it's convenient for them. The same people who want scepter fire auto-attack nerfed may be well-playing something broken of similar status like Torment on auto-attack, things like harbinger pistol are not less broken than scepter ele, just different beast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) This is the first time I've seen Arheundel not be part of a phalanx for ele. Not to be extremely sassy, but It must be egregious for him to be speaking up like that. Edited July 2, 2023 by Azure The Heartless.3261 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerlock.4678 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Bump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 4:39 PM, Terrorhuz.4695 said: Wait, what's the busted mesmer AA now? It's pink. Pink is bad. Nurf! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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