How the new daily system in Wizards Vault reduced my enjoyment of GW2 [Merged]

[Astralporing.1957]

9 hours ago, zaced.7948 said:

it's just another option. if you wanna do it, do it. if you don't, don't.

that has nothing to do with what the quoted person said which was that now they don't want to do certain things without the carrot of dailies. don't try to take it out of context to turn it into an arugment for yourself, come on, we're both smarter than that.

Please, try to be consistent. That sentence of yours i have responded to describes the whole Vault system very accurately. It is a system that is specifically aiming to induce this kind of activity you say has no place in this game. So, either you are wrong about your statement, or the system itself is badly designed and has no place in this game. You decide which one it is.

Edited September 8, 2023 by Astralporing.1957

[zaced.7948]

21 minutes ago, Astralporing.1957 said:

Please, try to be consistent. That sentence of yours i have responded to describes the whole Vault system very accurately. It is a system that is specifically aiming to induce this kind of activity you say has no place in this game. So, either you are wrong about your statement, or the system itself is badly designed and has no place in this game. You decide which one it is.

what you did was ignore the post i reacted to. guess we're not both smarter than that.

[Linken.6345]

4 hours ago, zaced.7948 said:

what you did was ignore the post i reacted to. guess we're not both smarter than that.

Since you did not quote anyone with your post how are they supposed to know who you reacted to?

This is all your post say.

On 9/6/2023 at 12:57 PM, zaced.7948 said:

if you need a carrot to play content, this game might not be for you. if you can't do something you enjoy without external motivation you may also have problems beyond video games.

[Gardavil.1762]

On 9/5/2023 at 1:56 AM, Hemi.5267 said:

If you love the game so much you would know that there are tons of small events in central Tyria that spawn champions (Terra Carorunda Waypoint, Blazeridge Steppes, Champ worm on the left) that are about the same strength as a vet. 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

two points... point one: what if I don't want to fight [insert content here] on a given day? We no longer have the choices we had before in old system to choose from on what content we participated in, and this loss of choice is what I and others want back.

point two: what I have disclosed in my other forum posts but did not disclose in this post... I am disabled... such boss fights are too much for me even when I join with other players, to have the choices we used to have under the old system before SotO allowed me to participate in a wide variety of content, to pick and choose what fit me, and enjoy the game because the old system allowed me to make the game work for me personally.

Perhaps disclosing this helps clear up the confusion voiced in your reply. Cheers.

[Gardavil.1762]

On 9/7/2023 at 4:49 PM, Ashantara.8731 said:

Okay, so everybody who doesn't share your opinion on a specific aspect of the game is automatically a "fanboi/fangirl"? Great way to keep up a conversation. 😉

But SotO is not responsible for the change. Had we gotten another expansion, the new Daily/Weekly Reward System would still have been implemented.

As for SotO, you shouldn't condemn an expansion as a whole when there are always good things and bad things to be found. As far as map design, story and quality of writing goes, I think SotO is excellent.

Because the changes to Daily/Weekly Reward system were rolled out with SotO they will always be regarded as linked to SotO but not just some of us but by people outside of GW2 such as news and social media, wiki contributors, etc. That will not change no matter time Anet corrects that.

[Gardavil.1762]

On 9/5/2023 at 7:52 PM, azorean.1850 said:

if it reduced the enjoyment of the game then you are playing it wrong

says who? game enjoyment is subjective, always will be. Cheers.

Edited September 9, 2023 by Gardavil.1762

[NaramSin.2693]

After some try i decided to switch to only PVE daily until they maybe go back to something reasonable as the old version, wizard vault it's a great idea and really interesting but the daily system it's just so dumb, the other day I had "kill 3 people" yes my daily was to enter WvW and just find 3 poor victims to kill, just imagine that day i do not raid with my guild I have to enter WvW and ganking someone for no reason, or better, because the daily tell me to do so, please give me back the option to at least kill a veteran, not 3 poor assaulters that did nothing wrong in life, pretty please...

[Sparetent.9756]

I absolutely HATE how the new daily systems literally FORCES you to endure 4 dailies. There's no choice as to which 4, you are ASSIGNED 4 whether you like them or not! 

Furthermore, they're not nice and quick like they used to be! It's way more time consuming and dull. They've become a chore.

[zealex.9410]

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Sixth, the new system feels like it rewards a lot less. The daily login gave nice stuff every week, just for logging in, and there was incentive to do more once you did log in. I haven't done the math, but it feels like the reward for just logging in is much less than the old rewards

Yes they moved the bulk of the rewards from just logging in to logging in and playing the game for abit. I think its much better for the health of the game this way and if you actually engage with the system the rewards are much much better with far less fomo.

You also dont need to complete all the dailies ebery day to clear the vault which allows for more flexibility compared to the old system.

[Selene.4072]

18 hours ago, NaramSin.2693 said:

After some try i decided to switch to only PVE daily until they maybe go back to something reasonable as the old version, wizard vault it's a great idea and really interesting but the daily system it's just so dumb, the other day I had "kill 3 people" yes my daily was to enter WvW and just find 3 poor victims to kill, just imagine that day i do not raid with my guild I have to enter WvW and ganking someone for no reason, or better, because the daily tell me to do so, please give me back the option to at least kill a veteran, not 3 poor assaulters that did nothing wrong in life, pretty please...

Today I have to do "partecipate in 1 defense event in wvw" wish me good luck..... thanks Arenanet for all the fun....

[Dawdler.8521]

1 hour ago, Selene.4072 said:

Today I have to do "partecipate in 1 defense event in wvw" wish me good luck..... thanks Arenanet for all the fun....

If EB is queued that usually take a tick or two true. 

But then again in terms of time consumption people still complain about dolly escorts that can literally take 5 seconds of "dedicated" gameplay to complete since it completes in the last couple of meters without even the event completing lol.

Edited September 10, 2023 by Dawdler.8521

[Spook.5847]

On 8/25/2023 at 12:58 PM, Kaliwenda.3428 said:

I have finally been able to do the dailies the last two days and I feel like the people who designed them (the PvE ones, that's the only ones I've got selected) don't really understand the community socialization aspect of the old daily system.  Maybe I'll see it more as the days go on depending on what comes up, but for now it feels kindof sad for me.

Sadists who live in their mom's basement dont have friends and family, so don't consider such things as having value.

[duskpoo.1824]

I'm loving the wizard's vault!  I just got a legendary weapon and a mount skin back to back.  The dailies and weeklies aren't that bad.  I do all pve/pvp/wvw.  If i get a jumping puzzle i'll just skip it that day, or tip someone who's waiting at the end.  No biggie.

Edited September 11, 2023 by duskpoo.1824

[Tekoneiric.6817]

On 9/9/2023 at 5:52 PM, Sparetent.9756 said:

I absolutely HATE how the new daily systems literally FORCES you to endure 4 dailies. There's no choice as to which 4, you are ASSIGNED 4 whether you like them or not! 

Furthermore, they're not nice and quick like they used to be! It's way more time consuming and dull. They've become a chore.

Dailies shouldn't be about a grind but rather to lure people in the game with a quick reward then free them up to move onto things they enjoy doing. Basically they shouldn't be a job.

Edited September 11, 2023 by Tekoneiric.6817

[Bingus.4236]

On 9/9/2023 at 11:52 PM, Sparetent.9756 said:

I absolutely HATE how the new daily systems literally FORCES you to endure 4 dailies. There's no choice as to which 4, you are ASSIGNED 4 whether you like them or not! 

Furthermore, they're not nice and quick like they used to be! It's way more time consuming and dull. They've become a chore.

Yeah that log in one, that is there EVERY time, jeez, BORING!

[Sylvyn.4750]

7 hours ago, Bingus.4236 said:

Yeah that log in one, that is there EVERY time, jeez, BORING!

And if you pick WvW dailies only, kill 3 invaders is also there every time, so that leaves only 2 of the 4 that actually rotate. 

[Ashen.2907]

The prior iteration of the daily system was more fun for me as it allowed me to focus on elements of the game that I enjoyed more. The improved rewards do offset the downgrade of fun factor a bit.

[zealex.9410]

9 hours ago, Ashen.2907 said:

The prior iteration of the daily system was more fun for me as it allowed me to focus on elements of the game that I enjoyed more. The improved rewards do offset the downgrade of fun factor a bit.

Like?

[Laken.9018]

I've kinda stopped doing the Dailys now unless they are easy and the main reason is there's no choice.
I really just wish we had the old system but with the Vault attached. It was nice getting to pick and choose which daily's fitted with the goals you had for the days.

The additional problem is now I feel like I missing out on Acclaim by not logging in and thus  I'm becoming even less inclined to log in as already missed two days whats a 3rd.

In short everything about the current system is frustrating as we did this system all the way back in Living World Season 1 and it was pulled and changed to what we had for similar reasons.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Laken.9018

[Astralporing.1957]

On 9/10/2023 at 8:55 AM, zealex.9410 said:

Yes they moved the bulk of the rewards from just logging in to logging in and playing the game for abit. I think its much better for the health of the game this way and if you actually engage with the system the rewards are much much better with far less fomo.

"if you actually engage with the system".

That's exactly how FOMO works, if you haven't noticed.

[zealex.9410]

35 minutes ago, Astralporing.1957 said:

"if you actually engage with the system".

That's exactly how FOMO works, if you haven't noticed.

By that token the entire game is a big ol fomo trap, you had to engage enough to log in for the old system as well and every missed day mean lost lost rewards.

If you dont log in for a day or a week thats fine you can still enough enough aa to get everything you want out of the vault.

[Thron Stal.9367]

On 9/3/2023 at 10:44 PM, Randulf.7614 said:

Not only can you change it yourself, they are adding an extra pve daily in a couple of weeks

haha sure they are.

[kharmin.7683]

3 minutes ago, AreohCobing.5092 said:

haha sure they are.

 

[Randulf.7614]

4 minutes ago, AreohCobing.5092 said:

haha sure they are.

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[idpersona.3810]

I miss my 3/day spirit shards from the dailies. I don't understand why that was taken out as part of the daily completion chest. And there is no current replacement for those shards.