Angesombre.4630 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, nosleepdemon.1368 said: Wow that energy blade effect is freaking cool, and I like the concepts. Our game designer seems to understand the esoteric nature of Revenant. Maybe that's the only thing Anet understood about the revenant. 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Angesombre.4630 said: if you take herald you will be able to do almost everything. Might be hard to use in WvW. I'm not sure about heal Herald; shield is getting buffs and this is a support build, but for the kind of players that run support builds (radiders) the current meta is using offesinve support builds with quickness (Herald) and defensive support builds with alacrity (Druid). Will be heal Herald able to compete with Druid, specially since means turning one of your potential quickness providers into a support with no alacrity? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I won't lie, since it was going to be a single main hand weapon, I kinda expected "more"... 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angesombre.4630 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Buran.3796 said: I'm not sure about heal Herald; shield is getting buffs and this is a support build, but for the kind of players that run support builds (radiders) the current meta is using offesinve support builds with quickness (Herald) and defensive support builds with alacrity (Druid). Will be heal Herald able to compete with Druid, specially since means turning one of your potential quickness providers into a support with no alacrity? I'm sorry I didn't explain myself well, I was obviously talking about taking Ventari at the same time as the Herald position as a complement. Even if ventari is a bit difficult to use in WvW. And yes, it doesn't provide any quickness in this game mode. When I said he'd do everything, I meant he'd even be able to put up barriers. Then, with the vindicator care in barriere mode, it could still be reduced on one side or the other. Edited November 13, 2023 by Angesombre.4630 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudzie.5486 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Really cool idea, but seeing as how Revenant got the fewest skills this update I was expecting a bit more. Something like trident, where these skills had additional effects based on which legend you’re attuned to. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny.7260 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 A+ on the Visuals. Really interested in seeing what the numbers look like! PvP perspective, could possibly replace Sword? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LichOverlord.6329 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Frozey.8513 said: Very pog to see Carian Greatsword being implemented into GW2. Better buy melee worthy scepters skins to pair with your shield while the prices are still low! I'm 100% confident there's a not insignificant amount of devs at anet who play and love soulsborne games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LichOverlord.6329 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Buran.3796 said: At least they made effort in making the animation/effects distinctive. But I don't think I would use it outside the beta: a mele weapon with no mobility or defense outside barrier? I don't think it would have much use in WvW roaming, and for PvE I'm currently fine. Tbf the revenant isn't exactly lacking in either mobility or defense in their toolkit, especially with certain legends like Shiro or Jalis... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LichOverlord.6329 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Buran.3796 said: I'm not sure about heal Herald; shield is getting buffs and this is a support build, but for the kind of players that run support builds (radiders) the current meta is using offesinve support builds with quickness (Herald) and defensive support builds with alacrity (Druid). Will be heal Herald able to compete with Druid, specially since means turning one of your potential quickness providers into a support with no alacrity? Heal alacrity mechanist and quickness firebrands exist, so it's not like quickness and alacrity are purely meant to be used by offensive and defensive supports, respectively... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, LichOverlord.6329 said: Heal alacrity mechanist and quickness firebrands exist, so it's not like quickness and alacrity are purely meant to be used by offensive and defensive supports, respectively... Yes, but I heard that hMech is not that popular anymore. Is not like those builds aren't good (they are) but about that the kind of players which care about the wingman meta oftenly swap specs as soon as something gets buffed. Personally I think that the beta is the part of the game in which I'll use the scepter the most since I don't think it will outclass mace in damage at PvE and at WvW seems focused in group support. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalent.9358 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I was really hoping for a Condi damage weapon, but this looks neat. Guess I'm stuck with Mace+Axe and Shortbow though for Condi Damage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacchary.6183 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I like this scepter more than specter's lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LichOverlord.6329 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Buran.3796 said: Yes, but I heard that hMech is not that popular anymore. Is not like those builds aren't good (they are) but about that the kind of players which care about the wingman meta oftenly swap specs as soon as something gets buffed. Personally I think that the beta is the part of the game in which I'll use the scepter the most since I don't think it will outclass mace in damage at PvE and at WvW seems focused in group support. I see HAMs all the time in my raid groups... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilabsentuser.8726 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 This is a very interesting gameplay for sure. However I am genuinely worried. I play 5 professions, Revenant, Guardian, Warrior, Necro and Engineer. Of all tjose classes (and I think of the entire game) none has such an strong autoattack. Might, barrier and 350 clesving? That is too much. I am sure that even other revenants would agree that while it seems fun, it is not fair at all. Not to mention the amount of barrier this will probably generate together with skills 2 and 3.While I am not against it, I hope it is properly balanced as we have had way to many releases already in which Rev was objectively too strong in more than one way. Other than that, I must say that the concept seems very good, I really want to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosleepdemon.1368 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Angesombre.4630 said: Maybe that's the only thing Anet understood about the revenant. Optimism kitten it! We need some optimism. Put that smile back on your face, soldier! Let's give them a chance and only pass judgement 5 minutes after the beta starts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronoPinoyX.7923 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Genuinely curious how this will synergise with Vindicator just cuz Boon Renegade and Heal Herald seem covered with this weapon's current traits, Heal Herald moreso than Boon Ren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Pretty good auto animation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elricht Kaltwind.8796 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I just realised it's kind of interesting how scepters in real life are (ceremonial) melee weapons but you never see scepters in a game being used that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Elricht Kaltwind.8796 said: I just realised it's kind of interesting how scepters in real life are (ceremonial) melee weapons but you never see scepters in a game being used that way. Because when they need to be practical they are maces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I really think the coëfficiënts around damage-/barrier output will be pretty balanced. And that it stacks well according to role, support or damage. So that it won't give the same time too much damage output and high barier. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric.4713 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 They just had to go and make it melee, what a letdown for someone who wanted scepter on a Rev for years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Kanek.5472 said: Gee, it's incredible how Revenant got more out of three buttons than warrior did with five. The warrior staff showcase didn't reveal what all the buttons did. Rev scepter is the only weapon so far to have everything revealed, probably because it's the only profession that's only getting three buttons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elricht Kaltwind.8796 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Buran.3796 said: Because when they need to be practical they are maces. Not all bludgeons are maces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LichOverlord.6329 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, Elricht Kaltwind.8796 said: Not all bludgeons are maces ...but all maces are bludgeons Something something rectangles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, arazoth.7290 said: I really think the coëfficiënts around damage-/barrier output will be pretty balanced. And that it stacks well according to role, support or damage. So that it won't give the same time too much damage output and high barier. nah we said same thing about Support Vindicator. Now its Barrier is super weak and heals not sustainable in WvW. This will be no different. It just give Shield a mainhand to pair with now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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