Jay.3409 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 curious to see how different high elo meta is compared to low plat-gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux P.1238 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Mirage/mesmer/chrono/ is clearly still busted. Clones still does a bit of damage. Needs to be nerfed to 0Everything else is good & balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivantreil.3092 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Imo Scrapper survivability is sorta overtuned, an excellent player will be able to handle 2v1's in a considerable amount of time, let alone a 1v1.Their only visible weakness is CC pressure, but currently Spellbreaker is the only class with a well built kit for deliver said CC pressure alone.Any other class either lacks CC, can't afford to put CC over other essential skills, or it gets countered by the amount of projectile hate it delivers, and therefore it needs the help of another teammate in order to stand a chance.I think it can be solved by simply increasing the bulwark and the invigorating speed trait cd respectively.Anything else imo seems fine and they only need a slap in the wrist, nothing too radical or critical to nerf/change.Atte. Engi main at plat 2, top 100 at current season rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kin korn karn.9023 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I wouldn't say busted, but Spellbreaker, Herald, Scrapper, and to a lesser degree Holo are still overtuned IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurantien.4632 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Holo and Mirage. Holo isn't completely busted. It dies pretty easy when focused and has set cool downs. Mirage is busted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo.6873 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 @Vieux P.1238 said:Mirage/mesmer/chrono/ is clearly still busted. Clones still does a bit of damage. Needs to be nerfed to 0Everything else is good & balance. S T a H p ?If it's pink its OP is the mindset of people in all seriousness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praqtos.9035 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 @Solori.6025 said:@Vieux P.1238 said:Mirage/mesmer/chrono/ is clearly still busted. Clones still does a bit of damage. Needs to be nerfed to 0Everything else is good & balance. S T a H p ?If it's pink its OP is the mindset of people in all seriousness?Pink color is OP.As you see according to NA ppl,its gives them no cooldowns and makes impossible to kill :joy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falan.1839 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Rev, still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcx.3570 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Holo's think Revs are op, Rev's think Mirages are op, Mirages think Breakers are op... Around and around we go in the game of anet balance--BREAK THE WHEEEEELLLL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praqtos.9035 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 @narcx.3570 said:Holo's think Revs are op, Soulbeast think Mirages are op, everyone think SBreakers are op...I dont know which class can counter spellbreaker in a 1x1 anymore.For example a loooong time ago people made recaps about class representations in monthly AT's. Would show us again which classes/builds are dominant at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youle.5824 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 @praqtos.9035 said:@narcx.3570 said:Holo's think Revs are op, Soulbeast think Mirages are op, everyone think SBreakers are op... Around and around we go in the game of anet balance--BREAK THE WHEEEEELLLL!Fixed your post slightlyI dont know which class can counter spellbreaker in a 1x1 anymore.For example a loooong time ago people made recaps about class representations in monthly AT's. Would show us again which classes/builds are dominant at the moment.There is one chrono build that perfectly counter spellbreaker, even carried a certain someone.. cough. Polo. cough to legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega.5791 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Plat3 here.Strongest: Rev.Strong: FB+Scourge combo, Warrior, Holosmith.Composition dependant Fine or Strong: Soulbeasts.Fine: Mesmer, Scrapper.Buff needed: Ele, Thief.Generalizing a little of course, compositions can change a lot and make classes more or less viable. Builds too, I just felt I should mention Scrapper next to Holosmith. They usually get outrotatet or killed by Revs or Warriors.Adding some more condi builds could actually improve the Rev-situation. As everyone expected, mesmer nerfs have brought Rev out on top, but well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praqtos.9035 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 @youle.5824 said:@praqtos.9035 said:@"narcx.3570" said:Holo's think Revs are op, Soulbeast think Mirages are op, everyone think SBreakers are op... Around and around we go in the game of anet balance--BREAK THE WHEEEEELLLL!Fixed your post slightlyI dont know which class can counter spellbreaker in a 1x1 anymore.For example a loooong time ago people made recaps about class representations in monthly AT's. Would show us again which classes/builds are dominant at the moment.There is one chrono build that perfectly counter spellbreaker, even carried a certain someone.. cough. Polo. cough to legendYou know the build?At this point, if I would look at top rated people at LB what would I see? By their placements :Scourge, Holo/scourge, Rev, War, Scourge/holo, FB, Holo, Rev, Rev, Druid. top10War, "incissor", Thief, coreguardlul, War, CertainSomeoneBelowLegend, idkwhosthat, Holo, Scourge?, Guardian/FB. top20.So lets balance based on top20 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 rev is still the only class that is doubled up in comps, rev still op.good recent nerfs tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moirg.7560 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Rev soulbeast and holosmith are all broken.Scourge and FB are A tier alone. S tier when together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ketsu.4569 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Nothing is truly game breaking at the moment. Problems are more "Interactivity" than actual balance. For instance SBs stability uptime is ludicrously high, but SB itself isn't completely OP it's just annoying to deal with especially if they are using both Elite shout and dolyak they have near perma stab. Mirage is still a poster child for bad PvP game design, despite no longer being S tier. Holosmith is still too much of a do-everything class, but is honestly not broken either. Rev, again, people find it annoying to get bursted by a Rev, but burst is all meta-Herald can really do so calling it OP would also be wrong. Closest thing to OP is scrapper in solo Q. If a scrapper dies 1v1 to anything it's a bad scrapper. If a scrapper doesn't also know how to deal just enough damage to have kill potential it's a bad scrapper. If a scrapper isn't near insta-ressing it's teammates by comboing with the gyro it's a bad scrapper. Firebrand is broken in organized teams. Behold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague Memory.2817 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Power chrono is busted. It's unplayable in any PvP. Literally every useful trait has been nerfed several times leaving nothing but soiled underwear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighter.5631 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 necros, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenHowl.2419 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Scrapper, too much sustain-Bulwark should apply barrier in an area or increase in amount depending on # of friendly targets with watchful eye in 600 range.-5s icd on the barrier application instead of 3s-longer icd on invigorating speedSoulbeast, holy shit nerf sic em. How much longer are the devs going to sit on it?Spb, increase shield block cd to 30s and remove might generation from forceful gs to tone down some of the sustain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Why do complaints and comments in this thread resemble the "lower tier" posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamadorn.2670 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 @"Master Ketsu.4569" said:Nothing is truly game breaking at the moment. Problems are more "Interactivity" than actual balance. For instance SBs stability uptime is ludicrously high, but SB itself isn't completely OP it's just annoying to deal with especially if they are using both Elite shout and dolyak they have near perma stab. Mirage is still a poster child for bad PvP game design, despite no longer being S tier. Holosmith is still too much of a do-everything class, but is honestly not broken either. Rev, again, people find it annoying to get bursted by a Rev, but burst is all meta-Herald can really do so calling it OP would also be wrong. Closest thing to OP is scrapper in solo Q. If a scrapper dies 1v1 to anything it's a bad scrapper. If a scrapper doesn't also know how to deal just enough damage to have kill potential it's a bad scrapper. If a scrapper isn't near insta-ressing it's teammates by comboing with the gyro it's a bad scrapper. Firebrand is broken in organized teams. Behold: Power frenzy spell breaker? Interesting.....imo there are better things to play in AT...now...a properly run zerker....could be broken :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praqtos.9035 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 @"Master Ketsu.4569" said:Nothing is truly game breaking at the moment. Problems are more "Interactivity" than actual balance. For instance SBs stability uptime is ludicrously high, but SB itself isn't completely OP it's just annoying to deal with especially if they are using both Elite shout and dolyak they have near perma stab. Mirage is still a poster child for bad PvP game design, despite no longer being S tier. Holosmith is still too much of a do-everything class, but is honestly not broken either. Rev, again, people find it annoying to get bursted by a Rev, but burst is all meta-Herald can really do so calling it OP would also be wrong. Closest thing to OP is scrapper in solo Q. If a scrapper dies 1v1 to anything it's a bad scrapper. If a scrapper doesn't also know how to deal just enough damage to have kill potential it's a bad scrapper. If a scrapper isn't near insta-ressing it's teammates by comboing with the gyro it's a bad scrapper. Firebrand is broken in organized teams. Behold: Double-triple revenants. notCalling the revenant OP is so wrong! - RevMain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Mira... oh wait! Im not allowed to do that anymore.Soulbeast. 100% Soulbeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praqtos.9035 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 @DanAlcedo.3281 said:Meta cla... oh wait! Im not allowed to do that anymore.Tempest. 100% tempest.FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copyright.9082 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Every non pof specs needs nerf in my opinion because anet hasn't made enough money with pof and i still can't play this game with my feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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