Evil.1580 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 So, I have installed Windows 11 yesterday. Overall I see between 15 and 20% FPS increase, including huge blob fights in WvW or World Boss events. Just wanted to give you all a heads up. I am using: GTX 1080 G1 Gaming 8G GPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor 32 GB 3200mhz RAM This is with DX11 enabled, but it was enabled 1-2 weeks before the Windows 11 install too... So the increase is from Windows 11 :) 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadrine.4352 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Hmm I have not upgraded yet but if true MS did a thing and that will be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 I was going to ask about any W11 effect. I’m going to let it bed in a few weeks first, but this is useful info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faridah.8431 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Evil.1580 said: I am using: GTX 1080 G1 Gaming 8G GPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor 32 GB 3200mhz RAM If you want even more performance (in general), Ryzen really benefits from minimum 3600mhz RAM...CL16 or CL14 if you can. Not sure what kit you have. Edited October 7, 2021 by Faridah.8431 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Wasnt there just news about Windows 11 automatically reducing your gaming performance by ~30% due to security settings? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Evil.1580 said: This is with DX11 enabled, but it was enabled 1-2 weeks before the Windows 11 install too... So the increase is from Windows 11 🙂 Or it is a result of patches that happened since then... or some driver updates that happened alongside system update... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadrine.4352 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) Hmm looks like I have to upgrade components in order to get win 11. Well there goes 600 bucks, seriously MS TPM really? A lot of people wont be able to upgrade check here... https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11#pchealthcheck I just thought of something win 11 has higher requirements than GW2 as a whole game lol Edited October 7, 2021 by Zuldari.3940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maikimaik.1974 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Zuldari.3940 said: Well there goes 600 bucks, seriously MS TPM really? Every modern motherboard has a TPM slot and every modern CPU is TPM compatible. You can get a TPM for 20 bucks if you don't have one already. Yes it's annoying, but you don't immediately have to upgrade to win 11. The changes, at least right now, aren't big enough to warrant upgrading your entire PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLOTH.5231 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Placebo. I'm actually getting a bit worse performance on W11 but I love the new layout and simplicity of it. Oh and if you use intel look for PTT in Bios and enable. 3440x1440p Ultrawide 10700k 6900XT 32GB Ram NVME SSD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caedmon.6798 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Wasnt there just news about Windows 11 automatically reducing your gaming performance by ~30% due to security settings? Yup,for Amd systems it seems.https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/windows-11-is-up-to-15-percent-slower-with-amd-cpusfixes-coming-in-october.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charrbeque.8729 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zuldari.3940 said: Hmm looks like I have to upgrade components in order to get win 11. Well there goes 600 bucks, seriously MS TPM really? A lot of people wont be able to upgrade check here... https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11#pchealthcheck I just thought of something win 11 has higher requirements than GW2 as a whole game lol You don't actually need to buy a physical TPM module. In your motherboard bios you have firmware TPM. For AMD it's called fTPM Switch. For Intel it's called PTT. This qualifies for Windows 11 as I have a Ryzen system with fTPM enabled, along with secure boot, and Windows update said my PC fully meets the requirements to upgrade, so I did and am using Win 11 right now. Microsoft never really mentioned it, which caused a lot of confusion, and scalpers to buy up all the TPM modules to jack up the prices, only for people to eventually realize you don't need to buy one. LOL I know for AMD Agesa 1.2.0.3 patch C, fTPM Switch is enabled by default. No idea how Intel handles it. Edited October 8, 2021 by Charrbeque.8729 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caedmon.6798 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Charrbeque.8729 said: You don't actually need to buy a physical TPM module. In your motherboard bios you have firmware TPM. For AMD it's called fTPM Switch. For Intel it's called PTT. This qualifies for Windows 11 as I have a Ryzen system with fTPM enabled, along with secure boot, and Windows update said my PC fully meets the requirements to upgrade, so I did and am using Win 11 right now. Microsoft never really mentioned it, which caused a lot of confusion, and scalpers to buy up all the TPM modules to jack up the prices, only for people to eventually realize you don't need to buy one. LOL I know for AMD Agesa 1.2.0.3 patch C, fTPM Switch is enabled by default. No idea how Intel handles it. Yeah but they require Tpm 2.0,even if you have 1.2 it says your system is not compatible,its all a joke. Now imagine older people that just know how to use the internet and their mail. Do you really think that when buying Win 11 they know about needing to go into bios to enable Tpm ? They dont even know what bios is. Its such a strange requirement and it will cause issues for many people. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tukaram.8256 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I did not realize Win 11 was released already. Their test app says I am fully compatible (and TPM 2), but I will let it mellow for a little bit. I don't really want to be on the bleeding edge of a new OS. 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalkingwolf.6035 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 if TPM stays i'm not going to install W11. my computer is capable of TPM but i just dont want to activate it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Charrbeque.8729 said: You don't actually need to buy a physical TPM module. In your motherboard bios you have firmware TPM. No, i don't. My pc is slightly over 4 years old. Which would have been an issue 10 years ago, where hardware progress was extremely fast, but is of no issue nowadays. Today, a hardware that is so old that it does not have TPM 2.0 (no, 1.2 is not enough for win 11 it turns out), has no secure boot in bios and has a CPU that was made before 2017 is still good enough to have absolutely no problem with any game i can think of, and definitely not in need of upgrading. But any of those 3 points alone is enough to disqualify that setup from win11. Even if all the things mentioned, while being hard requirements, are tied to stuff that in Win11 is purely optional. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous.7812 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Win11 is just a fresh paint on Win10. Performance should be ~1% of each other. Gaming results are all over the web. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maikimaik.1974 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Caedmon.6798 said: Now imagine older people that just know how to use the internet and their mail. Do you really think that when buying Win 11 they know about needing to go into bios to enable Tpm ? I highly doubt that older, non tech-savvy people are interested in upgrading to win 11 or buying a PC that doesn't come with windows already pre-installed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Caedmon.6798 said: Yeah but they require Tpm 2.0,even if you have 1.2 it says your system is not compatible,its all a joke. Now imagine older people that just know how to use the internet and their mail. Do you really think that when buying Win 11 they know about needing to go into bios to enable Tpm ? They dont even know what bios is. Its such a strange requirement and it will cause issues for many people. I actually do know many older people (and younger people) who just know how to use the internet and email, a lot of them volunteer on my projects at work. I'd be surprised if many of them know Windows 11 exists yet and they certainly won't be looking to install it on their current PC yet. In my experience people like that rarely upgrade the OS or individual components, they're far more likely to keep using their PC as-is until it develops problems or becomes so obsolete it won't do what they want, then replace the entire machine and get whatever OS comes with the new one, which will be a pre-build, likely a laptop. (P.S. before someone says it no it's not all older people, many are very good with computers, and a lot of younger people are not.) Also that's actually what I'm planning to do next time I upgrade too. I can and have built my own PC, but this one is between 4 and 12 years old now (unless you count the speakers, which are 17 years old) and apart from 1 hard drive I don't think there's any part which wouldn't benefit from an upgrade so next time I'm probably going to buy a whole new machine, although probably from one of those websites that let you choose all the components individually. I'm not expecting to get Windows 11 before then, if I get it at all. I doubt many people are aiming to upgrade right away, most people I know prefer to give a new OS time for any issues to be found and fixed before they get it, even if that doesn't involve upgrading the computer. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalkingwolf.6035 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 5 hours ago, anonymous.7812 said: Win11 is just a fresh paint on Win10. Performance should be ~1% of each other. Gaming results are all over the web. no. they made changes to the scheduler. so its a boost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonWing.9480 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) On 10/7/2021 at 8:58 AM, Dawdler.8521 said: Wasnt there just news about Windows 11 automatically reducing your gaming performance by ~30% due to security settings? I think it's possible to disable them. The OEMs were required to have them on and that's where the news came from. But then it'd defeat the purpose of Windows 11. https://www.techspot.com/news/91613-here-how-you-can-disable-vbs-windows-11.html That being said, does that mean we have to ditch Windows 10 in 2025 due to end of support? I've been hearing that W11 only supports Coffee Lake + and Zen++ I guess I'll have a new computer by then but given how video cards are atm I really don't want to upgrade atm. Edited October 8, 2021 by ArchonWing.9480 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvellous.4620 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I call placebo, I had windows 11 and rolled back it's really not worth it atm, you won't get any higher performance, so unless you reallyyyy want a design change, don't do it. My guess OP's windows 10 was screwed up a bit so any OS reinstall would have given him that increase. Windows 11 is just a fancy skin so far with very few meaningful upgrades I would recommend hold off upgrading. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalkingwolf.6035 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 the most do not reinstall the OS when upgrading to 11. my 10 was not "screwed" and its better. played tarir meta this morning and it runs better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshkyLicious.4729 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Why call it placebo? If OP says gw2 runs better on Windows 11, then it does so. Might not be like that for everybody who has Windows 11, since computers arent all the same. Some will get a big boost, others will not see any difference, while for others the experience will be worse. Im happy that you got a boost, OP! Im looking forward to upgrade to Windows 11 too 😊 Edited October 9, 2021 by AshkyLicious.4729 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadrine.4352 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 2:48 AM, Astralporing.1957 said: No, i don't. My pc is slightly over 4 years old. Which would have been an issue 10 years ago, where hardware progress was extremely fast, but is of no issue nowadays. Today, a hardware that is so old that it does not have TPM 2.0 (no, 1.2 is not enough for win 11 it turns out), has no secure boot in bios and has a CPU that was made before 2017 is still good enough to have absolutely no problem with any game i can think of, and definitely not in need of upgrading. But any of those 3 points alone is enough to disqualify that setup from win11. Even if all the things mentioned, while being hard requirements, are tied to stuff that in Win11 is purely optional. mine is 3 years old and no tpm, I put this together back when the bitcoin farmer craze was raising the pc component prices sky high, so I went with a 320 motherboard for price that dont have the TPM 2.0. Windows 11 says I have to swap my motherboard, that will mean swapping out my cpu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadrine.4352 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, ArchonWing.9480 said: I think it's possible to disable them. The OEMs were required to have them on and that's where the news came from. But then it'd defeat the purpose of Windows 11. https://www.techspot.com/news/91613-here-how-you-can-disable-vbs-windows-11.html That being said, does that mean we have to ditch Windows 10 in 2025 due to end of support? I've been hearing that W11 only supports Coffee Lake + and Zen++ I guess I'll have a new computer by then but given how video cards are atm I really don't want to upgrade atm. Oh its insane , this is straight price gouging, even old cards that would run games decent are going for outrages prices. freaking crypto miners are ruining everything for regular people. This is one time i wish the government would intervene, but most of them are prob running basement crypto servers lol, we cant win. Its absolutely ridiculous to be paying 1000/2000 dollars for a freaking card. Edited October 9, 2021 by Zuldari.3940 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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