ZeftheWicked.3076 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/enter-the-guild-wars-2-dragon-legacy-sweepstakes/ Seems this sweepstakes is limited to Germany, UK and France when it comes to Europe. Imagine there's like 25 European Union countries more in it and that you won't be getting any fat extra sales the moment people read the fine print that does not let them participate. So you're Italian/Spanish/Portuguese/Dutch/Belgian/Polish etc? Sucks to be u! No EoD prizes in your future! Edited February 16, 2022 by ZeftheWicked.3076 20 1 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDumplinx.7983 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I’m in New Zealand and we aren’t even included in this in any way. Pretty crap how they will allow us to buy the game but exclude us from its prizes 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Zen.9364 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I feel for you, as a Canadian resident we haven't had any of the GW2 promotional sales from Amazon or BestBuy over the past few years. Whether it be a sale or a sweepstakes, different regions and countries have different laws about participation. At least, it is usually the case that there is a law preventing people from participating more than a business making unfavorable choices. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury ranique.2170 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I agree this isn't fun (and I'm not elligable either). The issue has to do with local laws. There isn't a EU law for sweepstakes, but it is different per country. It would require tons of work to check all of these regulations AND add it to the sweepstakes. I do hope, that Arenanet recognises this and will organise some smaller sweepstakes for the other countries. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 My country (Croatia) is never eligible for anything ever. Hurts. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Another promotion for the same handful of countries. No surprise there. 9 minutes ago, mercury ranique.2170 said: I agree this isn't fun (and I'm not elligable either). The issue has to do with local laws. There isn't a EU law for sweepstakes, but it is different per country. It would require tons of work to check all of these regulations AND add it to the sweepstakes. Yeah, but there are companies that specialise in these things. No need for ArenaNet to do it they just have to select the right partner to run it. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD.4673 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 It isn't a prize, it's a promotion. Your chance of winning is basically 0 anyway. The whole point of it is like those awful unskippable adverts for Nvidia when you start up a game: the devs get advertising money. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Anabe.6091 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Pifil.5193 said: Another promotion for the same handful of countries. No surprise there. Yeah, but there are companies that specialise in these things. No need for ArenaNet to do it they just have to select the right partner to run it. This Promotion is solely sponsored by NC Interactive, LLC Item 8 @ https://us.ncsoft.com/en-gb/legal/contests/guild-wars-2-dragon-legacy-sweepstakes 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) Tbh the only thing i'd really want to win from it is the Aurine statue.. although a portrait of my main character would be pretty amazing as well. Could hang it next to this awesome picture of wife Jora we have on the wall. (my wife in cosplay lol) As for the rest of the prises, I don't like using headsets, I already have a good gaming chair, I have a gaming PC and accessories so no use for a laptop or new keyboard and all that stuff. And i'm waaaaay too introverted and anti social to travel half way across the planet to meet complete strangers who would be getting paid to interact with me.. that would just make me horrifically uncomfortable lol Likewise I'd also feel uncomfortable about the 2-3 hours of some devs time being obligated to play with me too.. so yea, I know that would end up with me just constantly asking them what they wanted to do cause I dunno lol I play solo largely so I don't have to deal with situations like that XD Edited February 16, 2022 by Teratus.2859 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Hey, at least Canada was included this time! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebeard.1746 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) Each country included adds legal overhead to all of the prizes and how they're distributed. So naturally they focus on larger countries. That sucks, but that's just how the world works, it's nothing personal. Different countries have different laws, etc around prizes and occaisionally taxes too. Edited February 16, 2022 by Firebeard.1746 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue.8235 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 As others have pointed out, there are multiple granular levels of legal issues here. From international to regional, national, provincial, municipal, etc. The EU trade zone is the most complicated legal agreement in the world and in world history. There are exceptions everywhere, and an activity must meet each and every exception in each and every country in the EU for it to apply to every country in the EU. Most people here seem to forget this. If you want to familiarize yourself with every bit of EU legal documentation Directory of Acts Treaties Directory of caselaw The National Transposition Directory is categorized by year and goes back to 1974. I'm linking back to 2017, you can find the rest. National Transpositions - 2017 National Transpositions - 2018 National Transpositions - 2019 National Transpositions - 2020 National Transpositions - 2021 National Transpositions - 2022 National Caselaw Precedent Jurisdictional Decisions International Agreements The above is not an exhaustive list of all legal bindings for conducting economic activities with all members of the EU. Post here if you finish reading and understand the thousands of pages above and we can get started on the specifics of promotional economic activities in the EU by a foreign business. Imagine that Europe consists of more than three countries who implement EU law differently and require adherence to all statutes, regulations, policies, agreements, and precedent decisions for economic activities at the international, Eurozone, national, and jurisdictional levels. 6 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 I long back to the days of GW1 where you could actually win something nice as citizen of the Netherlands. I still got my Miniature Ceratadon and Miniature Grawl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serephen.3420 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Hey think of the poor Aussies, even New Zealand has been included at least once but none for Aus😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Fire.6870 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 To be fair the US had also a lot of marketing stuff exclusive for them running . About the rest of the EU well seems strange. Anyway a better marketing would be sending a copy to the The Spiffing Brit and say he should have "fun" with the game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trejgon.9367 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 23 hours ago, ZeftheWicked.3076 said: https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/enter-the-guild-wars-2-dragon-legacy-sweepstakes/ Seems this sweepstakes is limited to Germany, UK and France when it comes to Europe. Imagine there's like 25 European Union countries more in it and that you won't be getting any fat extra sales the moment people read the fine print that does not let them participate. So you're Italian/Spanish/Portuguese/Dutch/Belgian/Polish etc? Sucks to be u! No EoD prizes in your future! It's like this with virtually every partnered giveaway, AN has ever done to date tho. How would I know? well, because each time a thing pops up I go to the terms and conditions and look at eligible countries list - and then ignore whole thing because my country is never there. Fortunatelly for this one I bought EoD long before they announced it and I would buy EoD regardless sooo.... yeah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 For some of those left out of that promotion/sweepstakes, you (some of Australia, Sweden, Norway, Denmark) might be eligible for this one: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/enter-to-win-a-guild-wars-2-end-of-dragons-alienware-pc-and-dxracer-gaming-chair/ 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said: For some of those left out of that promotion/sweepstakes, you (some of Australia, Sweden, Norway, Denmark) might be eligible for this one: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/enter-to-win-a-guild-wars-2-end-of-dragons-alienware-pc-and-dxracer-gaming-chair/ Sorry, this campaign is not available in your location. Again. (The Netherlands) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Lana.2506 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) On 2/18/2022 at 11:48 AM, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said: For some of those left out of that promotion/sweepstakes, you (some of Australia, Sweden, Norway, Denmark) might be eligible for this one: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/enter-to-win-a-guild-wars-2-end-of-dragons-alienware-pc-and-dxracer-gaming-chair/ "Australia (excluding, NSW, ACT)" Of course. Why am I not surprised. NSW is *only* the state with the highest population but they'll leave us out. Naturally. Edited February 19, 2022 by Miss Lana.5276 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Yes, that's why I posted some of Australia, and might be eligible. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/16/2022 at 12:41 AM, ZeftheWicked.3076 said: https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/enter-the-guild-wars-2-dragon-legacy-sweepstakes/ Seems this sweepstakes is limited to Germany, UK and France when it comes to Europe. Imagine there's like 25 European Union countries more in it and that you won't be getting any fat extra sales the moment people read the fine print that does not let them participate. So you're Italian/Spanish/Portuguese/Dutch/Belgian/Polish etc? Sucks to be u! No EoD prizes in your future! Have you considered petitioning your government(s) regarding the legalities of sweepstakes and similar activities? Restrictions such as you are seeing here are almost always due to a company finding it too expensive to set their sweepstake up to the wide variety of restrictions, fees, potential fines, etc. Sometimes it isnt a matter of complexity rather than cost. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) It would be nice if there were some giveaways from ArenaNet itself where every account holder can participate instead of all these 3rd parties with all their regional restrictions. Prizes of in-game items can be just as nice. Edited February 19, 2022 by TheQuickFox.3826 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TheQuickFox.3826 said: It would be nice if there were some giveaways from ArenaNet itself where every account holder can participate instead of all these 3rd parties with all their regional restrictions. Prizes of in-game items can be just as nice. Prizes of in game items are still restricted in many countries. The licensing fees to operate such sweepstakes/contests/etc (and the penalties for even simple honest mistakes) can be prohibitive. If you live in a representative republic or democracy and don't like your country's laws/restrictions, change them. Edited February 19, 2022 by Ashen.2907 3 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Lana.2506 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 15 hours ago, Ashen.2907 said: change them Unfortunately this is much easier said than done. Personally, I'm not a politician, and there's only so much lobbying can do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, Miss Lana.5276 said: Unfortunately this is much easier said than done. Personally, I'm not a politician, and there's only so much lobbying can do. Indeed, more so when you're part of something like the EU and you have no real voice to change anything there. It's very very difficult and complicated.. so just "changing" things isn't always possible. Even in my homeland we don't "elect" our leader, we only vote for the party that leads, and the party decides who leads it which is just.. uhhh stupid. This is how we end up with so many idiots in power lol 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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