Poormany.4507 Posted August 10, 2023 Author Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, jokke.6239 said: I wonder if it will feel connected or not when exploring Kind of gives me Crown Pavilion vibes It looks like they use separate portals between each mini-zone (See bluish portal-like thing at 0:08). Edited August 10, 2023 by Poormany.4507 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokuc.3478 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 The latest trailer clearly shows how most areas in the new expansion are just a bunch of copypaste. We've already seen from previously released videos that the mobs are also copypaste. What an embarrassment. This is the first time I'm actually considering to not buy the new gw2 content. I'm going to wait until it comes out and only buy if I see that it has good content. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 As a PvP player I have nothing to look forward to. Maybe if they put a ton of effort into redesigning weapons, but so far there isn’t even evidence that there was a point to the beta. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugrakarma.9416 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 the rift concept in videos is very close to Dragon Age Inquisition 2. but im not against they 'copy' some ideas. But i wonder why they think this is great, because "rifts" are overused everywhere. we have rift event on bloodstone fen, rift in open world side stories and so... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jokuc.3478 said: The latest trailer clearly shows how most areas in the new expansion are just a bunch of copypaste. We've already seen from previously released videos that the mobs are also copypaste. What an embarrassment. This is the first time I'm actually considering to not buy the new gw2 content. I'm going to wait until it comes out and only buy if I see that it has good content. jahai bluffs and dragonfall are some of the most popular and well-praised maps in the game. they are also mostly copy-paste! the only thing that is an embarassment is entitled players thinking they should get all new art assets every single release. also they want that and for the expansion to be cheap as well. apparently making art doesn't cost anything? Edited August 11, 2023 by SoftFootpaws.9134 1 2 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I don't mind that we are going to revisit "old assets" locations as long as the story is good. Those places looked good in the past and will still look good now. Besides, we are also getting the new design of the Wizard's Tower and its surroundings. The old locations were truly beautiful, except Cantha/Kaineng, so I don't see any reason to complain. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaos.6479 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 The problem is not to reuse old assets. The problem is that they deleted the season 6 of LW to create this new expansion. And during this amount of time, one and half year, all they did is to take old maps assets, that's why it's not a good thing. They told us that they want to do smaller expansion but the quality would be more important, clearly that's not the case. I can't see the quality when you used old assets and pretending that's new ! 7 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorem.8104 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 You know things are bad when even the people trying to defend bad dev choices and them reusing assets more obviously then before (I mean, did ya'll see all the clipping in Kaineng city?) are having to defend GW2 by comparing it to other MMO's.... when its never been like other MMO's. If GW2 is becoming like other mmo's then that's a really bad thing as other mmo's have been dying and have had many servers shut down, some mmo's died entirely and you cannot even play them anymore, or like Rift which died many times over, died when it went f2p and you could literally cash shop into end game gear and upgrades to stats you can't get outside of it to being sold to the game killing company. GW2 has always stood out and been different, not entirely sure why there's this push to make it comparable? Then again with Jade Bots which shouldn't exist already giving such a huge power creep its like they are trying every step in the book to put vertical progression into the game instead of keeping it balanced and horizontal. Give us something good to talk about, we all love this game right? If we not talking about the good stuff, if there is even a single "Controversial" thread then things are going poorly. There is no such thing as "doom sayers" when all of us here on this forum are here because we love GW2 and want to see it succeed. Watching it fail and denying it failing is just you going after other people who play the game just like you do. PoF did so well because it was seen as a return to form. Back then with PoF and living world 4 sure there was a few with concerns but the general consensus was a great outlook, if they kept that going the game right now could be so much better. WVW needs an update instead of being told they would get an update back in July 2021 that never came that was promised that year, pvp has been neglected for so long i'm amazed the games pvp even still exists in any form and has not bugged somehow preventing matchmaking. There's a lot they could be doing to make this game so much better, but instead they are copy pasting and making us pay for a living world. 6 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trejgon.9367 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, Gorem.8104 said: Then again with Jade Bots which shouldn't exist already giving such a huge power creep What is that "huge powercreep" of jade bots again? must have missed a memo, or dozen.... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThief.8475 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 14 hours ago, Pifil.5193 said: Reminds me of the Caverns of Time in WoW, I wonder if there will be portals to the various regions there. Brooo that would be so cool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood.7254 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 The problem with asset re-use is not the re-use itself. The problem is when your creative flow starts by throwing all your existing assets on the table and saying "Right, let's see what we can build out of this stuff". Instead, creative process should use the pre-existing assets to complement your creative vision. I try my best not to cling on to this game due to the "sunk cost" fallacy, but I still do sometimes. Sometimes I take breaks, but I could never lie to myself and say the game hasn't been on a downwards trend for years now. I wonder how and why some people can. 4 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotDelirium.7984 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Don't forget all The Tunnel void effects...after we already sealed away the void.... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandala.8507 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Gorem.8104 said: There is no such thing as "doom sayers" when all of us here on this forum are here because we love GW2 and want to see it succeed. Yeah, that's just objectively false. There are a ton of players on here who's sole goal is to be negative about the game because they can't move on. This isn't even debatable, imo. 5 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, mandala.8507 said: Yeah, that's just objectively false. There are a ton of players on here who's sole goal is to be negative about the game because they can't move on. This isn't even debatable, imo. Or perhaps they're GW veterans who are seeing, yet again, an ANet game going to the gutter. This might be your first rodeo, but for many of us it's not. 8 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandala.8507 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lincolnbeard.1735 said: Or perhaps they're GW veterans who are seeing, yet again, an ANet game going to the gutter. This might be your first rodeo, but for many of us it's not. 🙄 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 People complaining in this thread are a bit crazy in my book. 😁 What's bad about revisiting Tyria's cultures/architecture? Not every corner of the planet can look super duper different anyway. They tried that with Cantha, and look what an ugly design it got us. 2 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solzuul.6294 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 This is the first place I'm going when the expansion drops. 😂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, solzuul.6294 said: This is the first place I'm going when the expansion drops. 😂 Just so you can sit there and say -This is fine 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsa.3951 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 12 hours ago, Lord Trejgon.2809 said: What is that "huge powercreep" of jade bots again? must have missed a memo, or dozen.... Yes u obviously missed it. Log into the game and check jade bot abilities 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsa.3951 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 18 hours ago, SoftFootpaws.9134 said: jahai bluffs and dragonfall are some of the most popular and well-praised maps in the game. they are also mostly copy-paste! the only thing that is an embarassment is entitled players thinking they should get all new art assets every single release. also they want that and for the expansion to be cheap as well. apparently making art doesn't cost anything? entitled seriously? Anet is not ur Mommy this is a business. if ppl don't like the product direction they paid fir they have a right to show it. 4 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandala.8507 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, Balsa.3951 said: if ppl don't like the product direction they paid fir they have a right to show it. Well, if the posturing on this forum is to be believed, they haven't paid for jack 🤣 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batalix.2873 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, mandala.8507 said: Well, if the posturing on this forum is to be believed, they haven't paid for jack 🤣 I paid for EoD with the hope and implicit understanding it would have the kinks fixed, and that the next expansion would be at least as good, if not better. My dollars helped the company to develop SotO, as part of the cycle of goodwill and trust that sustain episodic franchise media. So yes I have a right to complain. None of us have to be so suggestible as to buy a bad product--especially went past performance and present marketing indicate as such--just to have some intangible right to criticize it. That is neoliberal, apologist nonsense. Edited August 12, 2023 by Batalix.2873 5 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandala.8507 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Batalix.2873 said: My dollars helped the company to develop SotO, as part of the cycle of goodwill and trust that sustain episodic franchise media. So yes I have a right to complain. That is absolutely not what your dollars did. Your dollars were exchanged in a transaction to play End of Dragons. Period. End of story. 10 minutes ago, Batalix.2873 said: None of us have to be so suggestible as to buy a bad product--especially went past performance and present marketing indicate as such--just to have some intangible right to criticize it. That is neoliberal, apologist nonsense. I mean, if someone tried to tell me pizza was gross without ever eating a pizza, and then said that the advertisements for pizza didn't impress them, and so they had every right to judge it by its presentation alone, I would absolutely ignore that person's opinion. 5 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, mandala.8507 said: Well, if the posturing on this forum is to be believed, they haven't paid for jack 🤣 Unless something has changed, they cannot post on these forums unless they have a paid account. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazrul.3086 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) Have you ever played WoW or ESO? Because they both reuse skeletons and assets in every expansion. Reusing assets creatively is what literally every major MMO does. Edited August 12, 2023 by Chronardis.4028 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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