Can we get a weekly raid for wizards vault?

[Kuya.6495]

Putting a raid wing on the special category is a good way to motivate more people to try raids and give some new rewards for people who already have what they want from raids. Since it's the special category it's not something people would have to deal with every week and it gives people months to finish a raid wing for wizard coins.  It's also a way for anet to test internally how much putting wizard coins incentivizes people to do raids. I don't really see a negative here. 

 

I don't consider "but people will complain on the forums" as a negative. I simply won't read the threads complaining about it and retain my inner piece. 

Edited December 6, 2023 by Kuya.6495

[TheNurgle.4825]

6 hours ago, Teletric.3821 said:

That might be the case, but also it's very much an optional thing since there are much easier and less expensive things you could be doing for AA.

I think clearing a raid wing would be great in the "special" category as sort of a seasonal goal to get people raiding. And if people don't wanna do it, they can still do other stuff and get all the rewards they want from the Vault.

Special tab in wiazrd's vault is there for ppl to try "new" content and you can tell by history of these tasks. Even if ANET add 1 raid as Special tasks, then it will be ignored by majority of ppl. In case you already know that majority of ppl will not do it, then you set yourself as dev for failure. 

[Artemis.8034]

4 hours ago, Astralporing.1957 said:

What else did you expect in a thread that started with crying about Raid weeklies in WV? I mean, i'm not very interested in the idea myself, but if someone wanted them they could hardly wait for them to be introduced first before they started complaining, right?

Crying? I made a legitimate post, and nothing i said isnt true. There is nothing wrong with asking, I mean I have never done a wvw or pvp daily weekly or special, but I dont begrudge people that are interested in that. Im quite sure there is as much interest in a raid activity as there is in a pvp one.

[Astralporing.1957]

1 hour ago, Artemis.8034 said:

Crying? I made a legitimate post, and nothing i said isnt true.

Take that to the person that brought up that word first.

[Serephen.3420]

Because people are selfish and only care about what they can or can't get. So with the if they can't get something no one else is allowed to mentality, it's sadly even something like this would be unlikely 😔

It would be nice to get something like it in the special category but probably there will people who complain just because it exists. 

Edited December 6, 2023 by Serephen.3420

[Albadaran.1283]

On 12/4/2023 at 7:32 AM, Artemis.8034 said:

Can we get a special or weekly that is clear a raid wing? You do it for every other mode of gameplay, how about people that like to raid getting some wizard vault action? I think its sad that you abandoned raids and the people that play them so many have left the game, it would be nice to have something.

No, not for PvE. Very annoying for solo players.

[Biziut.3594]

11 hours ago, Albadaran.1283 said:

No, not for PvE. Very annoying for solo players.

And why exactly solo players should care that there is one additional objective in the pve tab? (I mean there would be 7 possible dailies instead of 6). It does not affect them in any way.

[Phyb.6704]

On 12/4/2023 at 6:20 AM, TheNurgle.4825 said:

You had SOTO strikes there and ppl were fine with it.

Also raids in GW2 are also kitten easy. Both of us probably know ppl which run raids as 5 man groups, cuz you can and at least it is challenging.

There is several ways to increase raiding population.

• improve LFG tool – easier matchmaking and group creation help a little
• introduce "story" mode raids – this would probably helped most, story dungeons are good example, more ppl even see that content and this could be used in Wizard's vault Special tab
• take raid bosses tone them down a little and reintroduce them as strikes – this could help ppl learn boss mechanics faster, also would mean that strikes become real in between step to get into raids

I have always wanted story mode raids. It introduces people to the raid. Lets casuals see the story. And gives casual players a intro to the mechanics. Maybe not all mechanics so it is easier but some. This would probably make many feel more comfortable with trying raiding. Obviously its story mode. So your not getting contrib to legandary armor or anything like that. 

[Albadaran.1283]

3 hours ago, Biziut.3594 said:

And why exactly solo players should care that there is one additional objective in the pve tab? (I mean there would be 7 possible dailies instead of 6). It does not affect them in any way.

Because it would not be an additional objective, it would replace an existing objective. Anet already added one more objective after complaints, they wont add another.

Edited December 8, 2023 by Albadaran.1283

[Biziut.3594]

1 hour ago, Albadaran.1283 said:

Because it would not be an additional objective, it would replace an existing objective. Anet already added one more objective after complaints, they wont add another.

And why do You think ANet wouldn't be willing to add another objective? The fact that they already added one is not really a viable argument.

Edit: There is Strikes/Fractals dailies/weeklies already. Is this annoying for the solo players as well? 

Other important question is that should devs cater more to solo players in a multiplayer game instead of the (idk how to call them... normal players?)

Edited December 8, 2023 by Biziut.3594

[IAmNotMatthew.1058]

16 hours ago, Albadaran.1283 said:

No, not for PvE. Very annoying for solo players.

By that logic Anet should remove weekly Metas as well.

[TheNurgle.4825]

5 hours ago, ohericoseo.4316 said:

I have always wanted story mode raids. It introduces people to the raid. Lets casuals see the story. And gives casual players a intro to the mechanics. Maybe not all mechanics so it is easier but some. This would probably make many feel more comfortable with trying raiding. Obviously its story mode. So your not getting contrib to legandary armor or anything like that. 

I would say that mechanics should be almost same with more room for mistakes. Imagine normal T4 or T4 CMs, but it is really hard to die so new ppl can mess up and still live.

About rewards it should be lower than normal raids so ppl actually do it. Lets be real we do content for rewards.

[Tiviana.2650]

19 hours ago, Albadaran.1283 said:

No, not for PvE. Very annoying for solo players.

Umm how do you manage the 10man strikes that are objectives?  A MMORPG isnt built around the solo player, while you can run through the world solo, most events are made for groups. These games are created to encourage group play , its the basic principle of mmos. 

I hope they consider adding a raid objective as a side objective even, they could add an instanced category to the pve section. It could include strikes raids dungeons fractals and things like dragonstorm marrionette drms. There is a ton of content that could take up a weekly category in its own right. And to be fair for everyone it could link to the main objectives for completing the WV. So if someone wanted to do all open world for pve they could if someone wanted to do all instanced they could, if they wanted to mix and match the two to complete they could. I hope Anet considers this, they are a lot of people that will do it

Edited December 8, 2023 by Tiviana.2650

[Sarge shot Grif.6450]

That is a horrible idea unless they add a fourth option for the vault.
PvE
Instanced
PvP
WvW

[Tiviana.2650]

2 minutes ago, Sarge shot Grif.6450 said:

That is a horrible idea unless they add a fourth option for the vault.
PvE
Instanced
PvP
WvW

Read what i wrote above, it could be a add in section to complete the pve WV and you can do all  or not or mix and match and complete. I find myself personally rarely completing the objectives because they are not interesting to me and they replay the same ones. More variety is good.

Edited December 8, 2023 by Tiviana.2650

[Albadaran.1283]

1 hour ago, Tiviana.2650 said:

Umm how do you manage the 10man strikes that are objectives?  A MMORPG isnt built around the solo player, while you can run through the world solo, most events are made for groups. These games are created to encourage group play , its the basic principle of mmos. 

Lol, I'm playing for over 30 years so don't tell me how to play.. I do what I like. I join boss fights, I help people around,  but I'm not someone for evading orange circles on a small square loaded with enemies. So I skipped the Turtle raid and waited until Anet made it available on a different way. But I don't need to do all objectives. It's a big world, enough to do for solo players 🙂

[Nilkemia.8507]

If it goes into the special tab, sure.

As a weekly though? No.

[Sobx.1758]

1 hour ago, Albadaran.1283 said:

Lol, I'm playing for over 30 years

It doesn't matter and changes absolutely nothing about what was written in his post or this thread in general.

1 hour ago, Albadaran.1283 said:

But I don't need to do all objectives.

Exactly, so how is any of this an issue? It's been pointed out multiple times by now that they could add that additional objective and cap the total completed objectives per day/week in order to keep the current max earned aa value.

Edited December 8, 2023 by Sobx.1758

[Phyb.6704]

3 hours ago, TheNurgle.4825 said:

I would say that mechanics should be almost same with more room for mistakes. Imagine normal T4 or T4 CMs, but it is really hard to die so new ppl can mess up and still live.

About rewards it should be lower than normal raids so ppl actually do it. Lets be real we do content for rewards.

I would be fine if it was literally like a lws1 mission instance. Maybe give it general open world rewards but have an acheivment. People do the acheivment which makes the fights harder and gets them ready for raiding. Then they go into the actual raid and they have been 'trained' by doing story and acheivments. 

[Phyb.6704]

I also agree with adding a raid to wizard vault. If pvp'ers get a daily in their content of choice why no raiders? I prefer pve so I would prefer no pvp daily but its about letting everyone in any play mode get to have some dailys. 

[Biziut.3594]

@Artemis.8034: Asks politely for one more objective for raids inside WV, so peoples have reason to go there again.

@Albadaran.1283: 

On 12/7/2023 at 10:42 PM, Albadaran.1283 said:

No, not for PvE. Very annoying for solo players.

Also @Albadaran.1283

12 hours ago, Albadaran.1283 said:

But I don't need to do all objectives. It's a big world, enough to do for solo players 🙂

So "no", becouse... "no", very clever answer, worthy of a person who have at least 30 years past them...

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Please remind me...

Why there are no IQ tests before giving peoples voting rights? /O\

[zeyeti.8347]

33 minutes ago, Biziut.3594 said:

@Artemis.8034: Asks politely for one more objective for raids inside WV, so peoples have reason to go there again.

@Albadaran.1283: 

Also @Albadaran.1283

So "no", becouse... "no", very clever answer, worthy of a person who have at least 30 years past them...

...

...

Please remind me...

Why there are no IQ tests before giving peoples voting rights? /O\

You made my day, ty sir 😁

i don't get all the frustration about having more rewards for raids , once you have your legi armor + trinket raids are pratically useless in term of rewards , i only do them cause the game lacks of hard content (not quality just the ammount) and they are fun , if this raid vault reward was in the special tab would anybody complain ? as some ppl say it could also be very positive in people trying raids. In a MMO you will always face a moment you have something you don't wanna do  for something you wanna have , you think i am happy when i need a "gift of battle" to do some legis and have to go on 4 hours of Wvw , no i am not , but i do it cause this game is designed so.

Today raids aren't that diffcult with the strong support we have (only wing 5 and 6 stand off in term of difficulty and mechanics) , also the powercreep allow many to bypass mechanics , who is raiding here and hasn't done the gorseval updraft for X years in a row ? ofc you need to go watch a 5 minutes video about a raid boss , but if you don't want it , well don't do it .

Anyway wizard vault rewards can be all purchased regardless you do -1 special or 2 or miss 1 or two weeks of weekly , anet has been very generous with that currency, so i don't get why ppl are mad here , having raid would be way funnier than having "activities" where 75% of the ppl just wait for the timing to hit 00.00 just to have 1 daily done ... also spirit vetsibule has to be the most horrid chore for a daily ...

[Caitmonster.9036]

Seconding the need for more variety in the WV. I'm getting pretty tired of seeing Spirit Vestibule, Valdherz Crypts and Long Way Around... If your WV tasks are pulled from all the content your account owns, why does it always seem to just focus on EOD or core, nothing else?

Maybe not even have it be a raid wing, and just have it be any raid boss kill? You can pug escort and as long as you know how not to walk into landmines and match colors, you should be golden.

[Blude.6812]

On 12/4/2023 at 1:19 PM, vares.8457 said:

I would like a raid weekly but I don’t think it will happen. The casuals would have their usual meltdown and cry for weeks that they can’t do it. 

LOL and the elites will made their off hand remarks.

[TheNurgle.4825]

7 hours ago, zeyeti.8347 said:

once you have your legi armor + trinket raids are pratically useless in term of rewards

Really? Do tell. Since I do not see many ppl complain about rewards from raids. Only complain you can see is "weekly" limit for rewards.

7 hours ago, zeyeti.8347 said:

 if this raid vault reward was in the special tab would anybody complain ? as some ppl say it could also be very positive in people trying raids. In a MMO you will always face a moment you have something you don't wanna do  for something you wanna have , you think i am happy when i need a "gift of battle" to do some legis and have to go on 4 hours of Wvw , no i am not , but i do it cause this game is designed so.

Comparing raids and WvW is like comparing apples and ananas. Instanced content where you need to have group of ppl or WvW where you can play alone and even be afk and still getting rewards.

Even if you add raids to Special tab and lets add task for each raid so what happen when it is done? You can not add them to Special tab every week or month or quarter since that would make no sense. So it solve nothing. Adding them as daily make no sense due to average player's daily playtime. Weekly could make sense, but you get back to LFG tool issues and different expectations. Average GW2 player don't want to go to discord find group for raids and they should not. LFG raid section is full of raid sellers and having raid as weekly would only highlight this issue even more.

Also I almost forgot that raids are limited to HoT and PoF so would not really worked for ppl without HoT or PoF.