This new system is absolutely trash....fights are one sided

[Zyreva.1078]

My world has the worst k/d ratio on EU and yet neither of the enemy teams feel particulary stacked, not does my team feel inactive or outnumbered all the time. It's mostly the result of very different focus and playstyles and exacerbated by anets "balance" direction. Nothing that WR (or any other match making/team building system) was supposed to/able to "fix".

Based on Score most other EU tiers don't look much different, only T6 looks fairly onesided. NA does look slightly worse overall, but not that terrible either for a first week.

Edited June 21 by Zyreva.1078

[Kishijooten.5817]

I'm in EU tier 6, blue team. We got steamrolled all week, all day long. MOL outnumber us, by far. This was my worst experience in WvW ever. Frustrating as we could do nothing vs perma boonblob. MOL was everywhere, all the time. This was so horrible that I'm just wondering if I keep on playing this game (playing since beta). So, some players probably had fun this week. Not us, blue team from last tier. But who cares ? ^^ Surely not Anet... Btw, we got 48 points right now, and red got 264. Such a balanced game. 😑

[Triptaminas.4789]

18 hours ago, Kishijooten.5817 said:

I'm in EU tier 6, blue team. We got steamrolled all week, all day long. MOL outnumber us, by far. This was my worst experience in WvW ever. Frustrating as we could do nothing vs perma boonblob. MOL was everywhere, all the time. This was so horrible that I'm just wondering if I keep on playing this game (playing since beta). So, some players probably had fun this week. Not us, blue team from last tier. But who cares ? ^^ Surely not Anet... Btw, we got 48 points right now, and red got 264. Such a balanced game. 😑

MOL here, we didn't even had voice coms a single time during whole week

Problem is that we, the ebg molds playing 8h a day, with alliance where from 30 online people 30 is sitting in wvw, playing against pve and more casual people. 

There was no coordination, no intentionally boonballing, I'm sorry if it hits your ego lads. 

We didn't had fun, we was looking for a fight, but complained all the time about balance, we should not be playing against you lads, the gap in skill and nolifing is simply too great. U had no chance, neither green nor blue voice blobs had a chance against our clouds. 

Asides that bait condi boonball that bringed 15s skill ques, they managed to vype cloud every 5 attempts in eb. 

It's pretty much same story this match too for us, it's boring, i guess it will take few more matches to get some more balanced matches. 

Edited June 22 by Triptaminas.4789

[shrew.3059]

4 hours ago, Triptaminas.4789 said:

MOL here, we didn't even had voice coms a single time during whole week

Problem is that we, the ebg molds playing 8h a day, with alliance where from 30 online people 30 is sitting in wvw, playing against pve and more casual people. 

There was no coordination, no intentionally boonballing, I'm sorry if it hits your ego lads. 

We didn't had fun, we was looking for a fight, but complained all the time about balance, we should not be playing against you lads, the gap in skill and nolifing is simply too great. U had no chance, neither green nor blue voice blobs had a chance against our clouds. 

Asides that bait condi boonball that bringed 15s skill ques, they managed to vype cloud every 5 attempts in eb. 

It's pretty much same story this match too for us, it's boring, i guess it will take few more matches to get some more balanced matches. 

It’s probably not ego, it’s simply a matter of what would be fun for all concerned. As you mentioned, you didn’t have fun boonball kill farming, and I’m sure the players you farmed didn’t have fun either. If nobody is having fun, that seems like a problem in a game.

There is undoubtedly a difference in skill and experience, but that’s no one is going to “git gud” being farmed. And when they kill some stragglers from the ball who can’t stand up straight without being shoulder-to-shoulder with 30 of their mates that isn’t much fun either.

[XenesisII.1540]

Funny thing is MoL is probably a t1 world, but they started from the rock bottom and it'll take them 6 weeks to get to T1, only to be reset again. And if it was a regular rotation they wouldn't even get to the tier they belong to. What a wonderful system of mostly playing out of your tier!

31 minutes ago, shrew.3059 said:

If nobody is having fun, that seems like a problem in a game.

Ayup, but anet seems to think everyone is having fun regardless.

[Chaba.5410]

34 minutes ago, XenesisII.1540 said:

Funny thing is MoL is probably a t1 world, but they started from the rock bottom and it'll take them 6 weeks to get to T1, only to be reset again. And if it was a regular rotation they wouldn't even get to the tier they belong to. What a wonderful system of mostly playing out of your tier!

If it was regular rotation, they'd have 8 weeks.  The reduction to 4 weeks was only made recently and before WR.  How again does any of this have to do with "the new system"?

[jul.7602]

Its a trashy system. We will be back to servers in 7 months when player metrics drop.

[Kishijooten.5817]

8 hours ago, Triptaminas.4789 said:

There was no coordination, no intentionally boonballing, I'm sorry if it hits your ego lads. 

 

🙄

[Hesione.9412]

On 6/17/2024 at 2:45 AM, Caffynated.5713 said:

I'm just happy they ruined the game before I spent money on the expansion. 

This was my thought today.

[Knighthonor.4061]

wow really?

[Crashcode.2594]

If the new system is designed around ZvZ boonballs then FIX THE LAG. Make it so we can fight cuz all my skills are flashing. At least when we could roam in small groups we didn't have lag holding us back.  No more roaming. No more fun. Just lag fiesta.

[Bunbury.8472]

"I'm not in a guild and when I lose to a guild I cry WAHHHHH"

"WAAAHHH the enemy team has more players online and this has never happened before in the history of WvW WAAAHHHH"

ok seems like WvW is business as usual and nothing has really changed. people are still complaining about the same things they were over 10 years ago, and still not doing anything to improve their gameplay experience at all. honestly, probably the exact same people posting.

it's like when map asks for a tag to fight the enemy, then I hop on FB and no one on my teams wants to play a support and we lose every fight because we have one FB for 30 people. then I tag down and my team goes back to being sad they don't have a tag, and wondering why no one wants to do it. ah, smh some people just can't be helped...

[Stone.6751]

It is not the same as before. My server has had skirmishes where collectively, as a whole server, we had 24 kills. Another with 31. Another with 45. We've had 18 out of 41 skirmishes with fewer than 100 kills. FOR THE WHOLE SERVER.

That's not just dead. It's dead, dead. 

[Hesione.9412]

I feel you. Sometimes I am the only person putting tactics on objectives. I don't know whether that's because no-one else besides our guild has the ability to put tactics, who happens to be on, or whether people don't know to put tactics, or whether we're just so run over during the time zone, just save mats.

[Stone.6751]

Objectives don't have tactics, and more and more often people are not up to even try to defend. If a large enemy squad wants to cap an objective, it's too hard to try and stall for backup to arrive, and not enough backup to try and defend sometimes. Apathy and indifference are starting to set in.

[Forgotten Legend.9281]

On 6/22/2024 at 12:37 PM, Chaba.5410 said:

If it was regular rotation, they'd have 8 weeks.  The reduction to 4 weeks was only made recently and before WR.  How again does any of this have to do with "the new system"?

Because the change to 4 weeks IS the new regular rotation with WR because of the loss of server transfers. To allow players to change teams more often (than once every 8 weeks) Anet mentioned this is why they made the change.

tl;dr: 4 week is normal rotation for WR, that's why it's relevant 

[Trevor Boyer.6524]

I love this new system.

Been good to me so far.

[Palikka.8249]

We are against MoL this week and its so stupid. If this is supposed to be balanced system, then give me back the old one. First time sine astral update i turned my weeklies to pve since no point playing wvw this week.

[One more for the road.8950]

On 6/27/2024 at 1:23 AM, Hesione.9412 said:

I feel you. Sometimes I am the only person putting tactics on objectives. I don't know whether that's because no-one else besides our guild has the ability to put tactics, who happens to be on, or whether people don't know to put tactics, or whether we're just so run over during the time zone, just save mats.

Because with the WvW changes that has actually NOTHING to do with WR, tactics are basically a waste.

[Chaba.5410]

2 hours ago, One more for the road.8950 said:

Because with the WvW changes that has actually NOTHING to do with WR, tactics are basically a waste.

This been happening more and more before WR and with tactics that are still useful.  In one instance when I spoke up about it in chat, the response I got was from someone who didn't realize they could do that on a structure that was claimed by another guild.

Edited Saturday at 06:45 PM by Chaba.5410

[adammantium.8031]

The initial rankings have to be better than this. 

I'm also on Mirror of Lyssa, as part of an organized alliance. It has been pretty boring. I play in the European day time and there's just nothing to do except k-train. Sorry to opponents; we've really just been desperate for content.

My old server was regularly in a top tier so this wasn't such a big problem.

Judging by the guild tags on MOL, it's going to have needed 4 weeks before we end up with more balanced matchup, and then we'll just start again. 

It's no good saying we'll have more balanced matchups if it means weeks of horribly balanced matchups first.

 

 

[Ubik.8315]

WR is just hemmoraging playerbase.

It's basically made worse versions of what we already had by automatically stacking all the big guilds on the same servers. Amazing work anet./s

Edited Saturday at 06:03 PM by Ubik.8315

[jul.7602]

It's a failed system. Everybody was saying that from the start. People are coping to think it will improve.

[Bugabuga.9721]

In our case we have one good WvW guild in alliance and various degree of bad players  and we got topped up with random bad pugs. Result -- one map with good wvw guild has KDR of 5, every other map 0.02 - 0.3. So it's a bit of an ugh. And same goes for coverage -- outside of NA prime time outmanned everywhere in off hours. So whatever method of new "server" forming is not really working very well. Or severely depends on how lucky you are

[tippolit.3591]

On 6/16/2024 at 12:31 PM, lindstroem.3601 said:

Nothing to add here. This joke is the last nail in the coffin of WvW. Looking at the KD of all the matchups, i cant remember such an unbalance through all the matchups ever.. And this will even get worse once the roamers and small guilds are fed up just being loot bags for the boon balls of the dominant server. Imagine ruining server communities for this..

Couldn't agree more.