DoomNexus.5324 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 TL;DR:If you don't know where and when to rotate, play it safe and don't get greedy. Simply getting more points than the opponent is sufficient for winning, there's no need to force a triple cap at all cost. Even if you can't make the best possible decisions, it's already an improvement to not make the worst possible decisions. Helping your team win fights and gain map control should be the top priority.This comment is targetted at lower elo players to avoid making some of the least helpful decisions, nothing more. You don't have to be perfect instantly, "being less bad" than in the previous match is already an improvement.Original/Full comment:Guys please.. If you don't know what you are doing then pls forget that far even exists. (I'm excluding side noders, roamers,... obviously.. or special occasions where you have map control and can snowball to the third point and stuff.. if you actually know how to rotate then go for far, please, this "rant" is not aimed at you then..)Actually.. who the kitten cares about balance if PvP is crowded with people forcing silver rotations.. This is ultimately what loses a match..Do not constantly roam off to far and leave your team outnumbered on the rest of the map. Especially with a roamer on your team!Doesn't matter which node it is, if you don't already snowball enough to go for triple cap, do not roam to the third node.. Play 2 nodes be it close/mid, mid/far, close/far, doesn't matter..I'll continue with far since it's the most common case... If you are roaming off to far you are actively denying your own roamer by keeping the enemy's attention on that node, which makes it practically impossible to decap the point.Focus on a 2 cap, this is sufficient for the win, don't get greedy.. If you have 2 cap with a third neutral then this is already really good!This also doesn't only apply to roaming but to bunker as well.. If you have a bunker in the enemy team who just camps a node then let them.. They are practically throwing the game by allowing you to powerplay the other 2 nodes in a 5v4. Punish it if they leave the node but don't waste your time there. The only reason why this is an actually successful strat is because there are SO MANY players who will happily waste their time contesting the node, possibly even when they already capped it (not even neutral or defending your cap). Also: You don't need to IMMEDIATELY decap far as soon as it's in enemy hands.. Focus on winning the team fight first and snowballing the map.. THEN you can roam to decap.. It doesn't mean you have to kill everybody on the map first either but make sure your team is either able to win the team fight before you leave or if there is no chance of winning then everybody should not commit to the fight anyway.. You won't gain anything from dying, even if you capped the node, if this means you lose the other two nodes and die because they can zerg you down afterwards then it wasn't worth it..And if the enemy team has complete map control then regroup with your team and don't stubbornly push all three nodes in the hope of splitting their attention enough to make it work.. Splitting your opponent's attention is what your roamer is supposed to do.. That's their job in the entire match, if the situation allows for it.. Zerg down the one or two guys on close (or whatever point) and use that 5v4 / 5v3 to your advantage.. The essence:Doesn't matter if it's far, mid or close, If you can't even hold 2 points for more than 2 seconds, don't push all three!Also don't constantly push into enemies that counter you ffs. Know your matchups and disengage and be useful somewhere else, instead of wasting your time, waiting for your team to come and help you..No joke, EVERY SINGLE match I've lost in this season and the vast majority of matches I've lost in the previous season were because someone kept on pushing the third node.. We were outnumbered in every single team fight and had no chance of gaining back map control.Also don't get mad at other people if you can't rotate properly. Thanks. Especially not at your roamer when it's actually you who are to blame for making his job impossible.And yes, I'm aware that this thread will be FLOODED with l2p comments and trying to counter argument, but this is exactly the reason why I finally pushed this thread out there. There are just too many players in PvP who don't understand basic rotations and more often than not these are the people who get toxic and blame everyone else.. And the worst: They think they are actually good and blame everything on "gOlD eLo HeLl" but refuse to accept that they are stuck in gold because they don't understand the game mode.. This however is not only an issue in silver/gold but actually sometimes in plat, just not nearly as pronounced.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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