Remove Tier 4 — Guild Wars 2 Forums

Remove Tier 4

Straegen.2938Straegen.2938 Member ✭✭✭
edited November 21, 2019 in WvW

As the active US WvW population trends downward, I believe it is time to remove another tier which in turn will hopefully generate a more robust population in the other three tiers. On reset only a handful of matches are seeing one or two maps queued at most. Outside of NA Prime, WvW can often feel like a wasteland with a dozen or less players running around on each server group.

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  • primatos.5413primatos.5413 Member ✭✭✭

    Even with alliances there will be players needed .. the longer this takes .. the more will leave i think .. so .. give them just a little more time and everything will work itself out in the end .. somehow :)

  • @Blockhead Magee.3092 said:
    No. Don't do anything that slows or diverts resources from alliances. Get that done. Then we'll see where we stand and if WvW can stay a viable game mode.

    so dont do anything till Guild Wars 3?

  • Liston.9708Liston.9708 Member ✭✭✭

    @Blockhead Magee.3092 said:
    No. Don't do anything that slows or diverts resources from alliances. Get that done. Then we'll see where we stand and if WvW can stay a viable game mode.

    Not sure there really are resources allotted to alliances or it would be done by now

  • MELORD.5013MELORD.5013 Member ✭✭
    edited November 20, 2019

    the NA wvw population is looking better than it was the last few months
    check this https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/84457/na-wvw-is-in-freefall#latest

    [KEKW]

  • remove all tiers and make everyone play in ebg only

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @MELORD.5013 said:
    the NA wvw population is actually better than it was the last few months
    check this https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/84457/na-wvw-is-in-freefall#latest

    Theoretically.

    That is unless they lowered the ‘threshold’ of full to keep Blackgate closed.

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • gavyne.6847gavyne.6847 Member ✭✭✭

    Chopping off 1 tier is one of the quickest and possibly the easiest way for them to breath temporary fresh air into this game mode. The players that still play in WvW do so because they enjoy it, and there's really nothing like it out there. But there's nothing worse than rallying a guild raid, then finding no content after 2 hours and have everybody log bored and disappointed. Or you see the opposing servers having multiple oj's on map while you've got no allies to play with to fight them.

    The population is stretched too thin, there's no reason to have 4 tiers at this point in time.

  • ArchonWing.9480ArchonWing.9480 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blockhead Magee.3092 said:
    No. Don't do anything that slows or diverts resources from alliances. Get that done. Then we'll see where we stand and if WvW can stay a viable game mode.

    That's a brave assumption that there's resources to divert from alliances.

  • Gop.8713Gop.8713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @MELORD.5013 said:
    the NA wvw population is actually better than it was the last few months
    check this https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/84457/na-wvw-is-in-freefall#latest

    Theoretically.

    That is unless they lowered the ‘threshold’ of full to keep Blackgate closed.

    Can't understand why ppl insist on thinking of those server population labels as fixed numbers . . .

  • @Gop.8713 said:

    Can't understand why ppl insist on thinking of those server population labels as fixed numbers . . .

    Yup, actual activity numbers tell a different story. Seems clear to me the bottom NA tiers have started transferring to BP/JQ/Mag.

  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Removing T4 is like battling a dragon and then someone yells "I know what to do, chop off its tail to kill it!"

    Dont look a gift Asura in the mouth.
    No seriously, dont. Shark teeth.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dawdler.8521 said:
    Removing T4 is like battling a dragon and then someone yells "I know what to do, chop off its tail to kill it!"

    Well... it might... Of course that would throw off its balance leading to to crash if it tried to fly and...

    Oh... that was.. nvm..

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • Jayden Reese.9542Jayden Reese.9542 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Go away. this is the 94th remove t4 thread.

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 21, 2019

    add another mount that is obtained in wvw and that can be used in pve
    it will have the same effect on population as removing t4 will

  • DeadlySynz.3471DeadlySynz.3471 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blockhead Magee.3092 said:
    No. Don't do anything that slows or diverts resources from alliances. Get that done. Then we'll see where we stand and if WvW can stay a viable game mode.

    Well considering their PvE heavy mindset and what they delivered with the next saga and how short it was.. tells me Alliances aren't even being touched. If they can't even deliver properly on PvE then don't expect even a blip in WvW

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    seasons.

    press to join and choose your new alliance. separate from basic wvw. only 3 sides.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Removing tiers provides immediate, but temporary solution to the population problem.

    The long term solution would be an easier way to convert PVE’ers into WvW’ers without gimmicky incentives like mounts.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    make it so you can only finish your legendary on sm

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • @ArchonWing.9480 said:

    @Blockhead Magee.3092 said:
    No. Don't do anything that slows or diverts resources from alliances. Get that done. Then we'll see where we stand and if WvW can stay a viable game mode.

    That's a brave assumption that there's resources to divert from alliances.

    'Hope' is not a strategy, but its about all I have left for my favorite game mode. I'll encourage them to stay focused on alliances at every opportunity.

  • shiri.4257shiri.4257 Member ✭✭✭✭

    1 tier 1 dream

    Spectre [VII] - Wood League Champion. Making "fight guilds" stack on higher tiers since 2013.
    Michelin rated WvW guild since 2015. The gold standard. Never transferred, never reformed, adapting and reloading with or without Anet.

  • Optimator.3589Optimator.3589 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It needs to happen so it won't happen.

    REDUCE NA TO 3 TIERS

  • EremiteAngel.9765EremiteAngel.9765 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I don't know about other tiers but Tier 1 currently has lots of activity going on at most hours.
    It has been fun to say the least.
    Coincidentally Tier 1 is also currently made up of 3 full servers and rotated weekly with the other Very High pop server.
    Perhaps reducing the number of tiers to compact the population might be a good option so the other tiers enjoy the same activity levels of a triple full server Tier 1.

    Visit 🏴‍☠️ Eremite's WvW Necromancy Graveyard 🏴‍☠️

    CD -> TC -> Mag -> GOM -> AR -> JQ

  • primatos.5413primatos.5413 Member ✭✭✭

    @Hyperballad.5693 said:

    @Gop.8713 said:

    Can't understand why ppl insist on thinking of those server population labels as fixed numbers . . .

    Yup, actual activity numbers tell a different story. Seems clear to me the bottom NA tiers have started transferring to BP/JQ/Mag.

    Where's that list from ?