Mell.4873 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) I mean why the heck did it drop into gold 3 now; 1400 skill rating is all you need to be in the top 250 players? Im lost, is this just my particular area of the NA servers? How can I make sense of this other than saying no one is playing sPvP at the moment. Edited April 13, 2022 by Mell.4873 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscuro.9720 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) Ever shrinking population and I would guess the game requirement for placement just went up, which is going to boot out people who aren’t at that game threshold yet. Can’t say for certain though, I haven’t been paying close attention to PvP this season. Edited April 13, 2022 by oscuro.9720 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voltaicbore.8012 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Mell.4873 said: Im lost, is this just my particular area of the NA servers? You are indeed lost; we've been on megaservers for years, there is no "my corner of the servers" anymore. As for the lowered rating threshold to get in, it's just a sign of extremely reduced population. So few people still play that there aren't enough plat folks to fill out the top 250. Many seasons ago, when I got the old top 250 title, I remember needing to stay around 1550 just to make sure I could get inside the top 250. Two seasons ago, I just spammed matches without caring about rating. I ended up at 1530 or something like that, and maybe top 150ish. Lower population also results in naturally gold 3 players like me running into the top 10 players rather frequently in matches. Population is just atrocious, I really do feel it's hit rock bottom. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mell.4873 Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, voltaicbore.8012 said: You are indeed lost; we've been on megaservers for years, there is no "my corner of the servers" anymore. As for the lowered rating threshold to get in, it's just a sign of extremely reduced population. So few people still play that there aren't enough plat folks to fill out the top 250. Many seasons ago, when I got the old top 250 title, I remember needing to stay around 1550 just to make sure I could get inside the top 250. Two seasons ago, I just spammed matches without caring about rating. I ended up at 1530 or something like that, and maybe top 150ish. Lower population also results in naturally gold 3 players like me running into the top 10 players rather frequently in matches. Population is just atrocious, I really do feel it's hit rock bottom. Yeah I feel its more then bottom fell out of population but I could be wrong. If no new people join PvP then most of your matches will be against gold players which will mean you will naturally lose matches. If we had a lot of new players in silver/gold then I bet it would be easier to maintain your rank without playing, that is my thinking. Edited April 13, 2022 by Mell.4873 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozumi.5816 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Time to scrap esports PvP and add 15vs15 BGs. 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I wonder if they will do anything or just let the gamemode die. It's better on EU, but still... during the season PoF released, I peaked around 1790 yet couldn't make it to the ladder. Thats right, in late 2017 high plat 3 wasn't enough to get into the top 250. I would be top 10 today if I managed the same. If the game really doubled its playerbase during these last 2-3 years, it's even more weird how WvW and PvP are just slowly rotting away. How do they expect to keep the playerbase? Do they really only want supercasuals? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozumi.5816 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, Bazsi.2734 said: Do they really only want supercasuals? Yes, all the people in leadership positions at Anet are this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix.2386 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) i remember during pof release when being legend 1800+ cant even score me a top25. but yes, gw2 is the super casual game..as no monthly fee and the content isnt challenging and time consuming like ff14. and im only playing gw2 cause im a casual with no time now as i work and enjoy weekend drinking. alot of old time veteran pvper are in the same shoe as me, people grew old, i mean game is 10 year old..idk how a selected few top players who played during core game still plays a lot of hour every day lol. anyway and i'm pretty sure most of the pve/wvw players are casual as well, which is the audience anet try to attract to the young people who didnt start a long time ago who want hardcore gaming, i suggest you go somewhere else, as someone who seem the glory days..you are beating a dead horse now. and the lack of effort for EoD definitely has less effect then PoF had. Edited April 13, 2022 by felix.2386 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Every time the 3 hours ago, Mell.4873 said: no one is playing sPvP at the moment. EoD hardly brought anyone back. Top 250 drops into mid gold every time the number of required games increases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar.3568 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Mell.4873 said: I mean why the heck did it drop into gold 3 now; 1400 skill rating is all you need to be in the top 250 players? Im lost, is this just my particular area of the NA servers? How can I make sense of this other than saying no one is playing sPvP at the moment. I've seen a few na players transfered to eu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) Thesis: EoD killed spvp. Atleast i have not done a single Ranked game since. Just no fun in it anymore. Almost all the new specs get a ton of sustain, without even thinking about it. I consider myself a pretty decent Fireweaver. I hit P2 solo before EoD was released. What really broke my back is that... i lost a fight on a Sidenode against a mechanist... THAT WAS TURNING WITH THE KEYBOARD. 😵 I have not recovered since.🤕 Edited April 13, 2022 by Sahne.6950 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrippastrilemma.8741 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) Lower population -> If you are high rated there are fewer high level players to get matched against so will play with lower rated players -> you gain less rating for wins (but lose a ton of rating for losses) -> the maximum rating in the game decreases -> plat 3 is the new legend. At least I think that's how it works. Edited April 13, 2022 by agrippastrilemma.8741 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mell.4873 Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, agrippastrilemma.8741 said: Lower population -> If you are high rated there are fewer high level players to get matched against so will play with lower rated players -> you gain less rating for wins -> the maximum rating in the game decreases -> plat 3 is the new legend. At least I think that's how it works. Yeah exactly otherwise people would be squatting there high rating but that does not seem to be happening at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 A lot of vets just dont care anymore and thats anets fault. I wouldnt be surprised if anet is letting it die on purpose at this point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider.6024 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 population plummeted because nothing new was given to the mode no new maps, we didnt even get new amy, sigil, or runes lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 a lot of ppl got tired of simple demands taking 2 years to happen easily detected over and underperforming builds not being touched mmr became a bigger and bigger joke as now your available time to play sometimes is more impactful for your rating than your actual skill at the game a lot of ppl quit the game cuz of that and some just stop caring about mmr at all those titles became 10 achievment points for pve heroes 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozumi.5816 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 19 hours ago, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said: EoD hardly brought anyone back. Why would it? I don't want to fight any of the EoD specs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greedywholesome.9081 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 4/13/2022 at 2:39 PM, Sahne.6950 said: THAT WAS TURNING WITH THE KEYBOARD. 😵 That's terrible. I thought most people change that at lvl 1 on the first character of the account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovark.2514 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Wow I saw your post and was like "I have to check what position I fall now". This past season or so I've just been messing around with full glass berserker builds that will probably never make it to plat and yet at gold 3 I'm in the top 250. WTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 On 4/15/2022 at 4:11 AM, greedywholesome.9081 said: That's terrible. I thought most people change that at lvl 1 on the first character of the account. He was playing like it was a lvl1 account.... i was sweating so hard in the fight and he just stood there.... MACE MACE MACE MACE MACE. and i could not kill him. That was on the second day of EoD... before the mechanist nerfs, but nevertheless.... it shows the glorious balance of mechanist. ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greedywholesome.9081 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 47 minutes ago, Sahne.6950 said: He was playing like it was a lvl1 account.... i was sweating so hard in the fight and he just stood there.... MACE MACE MACE MACE MACE. and i could not kill him. That was on the second day of EoD... before the mechanist nerfs, but nevertheless.... it shows the glorious balance of mechanist. ❤️ KB turners are the worst and the build carried him. I suggest you play a will bender and target the mechanist, not the robot. Or, untamed 🙂 you can probably out sustain him. With the weaver, it was once my fave spec but sadly fell out of favor from EoD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 On 4/12/2022 at 11:19 PM, Bazsi.2734 said: I wonder if they will do anything or just let the gamemode die. It's better on EU, but still... during the season PoF released, I peaked around 1790 yet couldn't make it to the ladder. Thats right, in late 2017 high plat 3 wasn't enough to get into the top 250. I would be top 10 today if I managed the same. If the game really doubled its playerbase during these last 2-3 years, it's even more weird how WvW and PvP are just slowly rotting away. How do they expect to keep the playerbase? Do they really only want supercasuals? While the game population is growing, this is bot the case in PvP. Spvp has been atrocious since Feb 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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