rune.9572 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Hardcore players have moved on. It's not prestigious anymore so I think it's fine to allow everyone to 111 it now. 12 12 26 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalavaaris.5329 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 6 hours ago, rune.9572 said: It's not prestigious anymore It never was, let’s remember what game we are playing here lol 17 1 9 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chichimec.9364 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 I got my one and only win on the DE meta early on, back when it was RNGeesus, not skill, organization, or anything else that determined who won and who lost. Highly organized raid groups were still mostly failing. Back then, I happened to stumble into a map with no organization of any kind, just the loving smile of RNGeesus, who benevolently allowed this disorganized group of randos to win.So I've never considered this meta to be prestigious at all and have never been impressed by those who beat it. 12 2 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, Chichimec.9364 said: I got my one and only win on the DE meta early on Same i got lucky on my first try.. After 5 fails i ignore it now. 11 1 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 11 hours ago, Zalavaaris.5329 said: It never was, let’s remember what game we are playing here lol But some people think that it is, somehow, and that succeeding it is a sign that they, personally, overcame a challenge (or smh like that). 8 3 5 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Astralporing.1957 said: But some people think that it is, somehow, and that succeeding it is a sign that they, personally, overcame a challenge (or smh like that). More for me its about not wasting hours on effectively nothing.. I kinda like to see something for my time on the game. 11 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styopa.2538 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Astralporing.1957 said: But some people think that it is, somehow, and that succeeding it is a sign that they, personally, overcame a challenge (or smh like that). I'd like to succeed on it at least once, just because it bothers me never to have done it. Saying it's random pugs blah blah feels like a rationalization of my own failure to perform so it pisses me off. Personal, I know. 3 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliboom.3218 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Do toxic elitists really think that all OW players do is 111? 18 3 5 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo.5693 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 22 hours ago, rune.9572 said: Hardcore players have moved on. It's not prestigious anymore so I think it's fine to allow everyone to 111 it now. With the amount of multiboxers in the map today, it's not worth it. I'm not gonna do more than 1111 for someone with 5+ accounts tagging the boss and die. DE is a bot farm now. 3 1 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styopa.2538 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Caliboom.3218 said: Do toxic elitists really think that all OW players do is 111? Absolutely. Not even normal elitists, but the toxic ones? 100%. 10 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Got 3 wins before the changes, say what you will, i still fondly remember of those moments more than the times i failed Can't remember last time i felt this much adrenaline. Now if only they shorten the pre-events to get to the fight faster 4 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehenna.3625 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Caliboom.3218 said: Do toxic elitists really think that all OW players do is 111? It's become something of a meme I guess. A few players do take it too literally though. I suspect it's because they saw some lazy people do it during world boss events or something that it became a symbol for OW players in their minds, and then some people get so upset about it because they take it too literally. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) OP, what are you even talking about? Bored and baiting for reactions? Edited June 6, 2022 by Sobx.1758 6 1 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey.4207 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 13 hours ago, Caliboom.3218 said: Do toxic elitists really think that all OW players do is 111? They do and this has been even discussed several times on discord and content creators like mighty teapot and others. It's very toxic way to look down upon on casual players 11 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 20 hours ago, Caliboom.3218 said: Do toxic elitists really think that all OW players do is 111? Some do, but for most it's just a convenient strawman they can attack to obfuscate the real issues. 13 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingus.4236 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 I just press 1 once. Let auto attack and the sweaty nerds do the work, whilst I sip on my drink and recline on my chair. We all get the same prizes, no need to perspire your bottle of mountain dew just for a few green bags. 1 1 11 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daninumbers.4036 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Another DE thread has just been locked like some of the others so probably this one will be soon too. We aren't allowed to talk about it anymore, they think it's in the perfect spot. Bots I haven't paid attention but I wouldn't be surprised. LLA is easier to do that so you can see people with even 5 chars of the same name and a bit changing at the end. No wonder many times it takes 2 burns. And really, even when I started to play I would use all of my skills, that's just a way to mock casuals. I was in fact annoyed by the long cd of some of them, but if you are just pressing 1 on autorepeat you aren't a casual, you are a leech be new or especially veteran player with several accounts running at once. 6 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizel.8175 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 The event is perfectly fine in its current iteration. What's wrong with having one community-building mainstream meta event? 8 1 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonWing.9480 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Spamming 1 is a meme but I mean in Open World mobs die so fast that attempting a full dps rotation would be the "noob" thing to do. These people aren't elitists, they're just parroting what their favorite in-game idol is saying. You can't approach open world the same way you would approach a fractal or even a raid. This is not about difficulty but because these parts of the game require different things. When you have 1 dedicated healer and 2 other people supplying every boon in the game, then yes, of course you go full damage. But if you're on your own, things are a bit different. Also you would be ahead of anyone that mindlessly spams knockback on cooldown. Pressing all your buttons isn't always a good thing. Interrupting your autos can also be a bad thing. Now you should know what a break bar is though. But then again I know some decent players with good damage rotations but can never CC when needed. It's not that clear cut. If players do badly, it's because they're using incoherent builds, have bad positioning, or are a doormat for most of the fight. Usually the first two lead to the third. Their lack of a rotation is somewhat down the list. You can easily do good damage even with autoattacks with the right tools. I mean of course, you should know a rotation, but there are also many ways around this if you don't want to. In that case, you should just remember which other skills do a lot of damage. (Unless you play an Ele; I have no idea) The bigger problem is just that Anet designed some of their trait and skill choices to be too good to not take, and other choices that are essentially just griefing new players. Also the only thing that truly annoys me is people that lay dead when the WP is 5 inches away. Please. But that has nothing to do with skill. Edited June 7, 2022 by ArchonWing.9480 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardy.7469 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 I just sort of wish they remove the stacking buff as a balance around the meta. Let it simply be a way for people to get more loot, but remove the damage buff so people can just drop in and beat it without doing the pre-event stuff. Heck, if you don't want an antique stone to be that easy, let it only be attainable if you have all 10 stacks of the buff. Everyone else gets everything BUT that for not having the full stack, a map mostly not having the buff won't kitten the chances of the meta being beat. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lottie.5370 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Still consistently succeeding the meta by joining groups that ask for quickness/alacrity. No li, no kp, any DPS welcome to join. Nearly always have around 3-5 minutes left on the timer too. Be a little more selective with which groups you're willing to join, and you'll have a much better time in the meta. It's very easy to get 5 stacks before the meta by doing the event chain at Unwaking Waters plus one more event, and you get the remaining 5 stacks from the meta escort events. I guarantee you there are people in the squad just spamming 1 or random buttons, or have less than ideal gear, etc. More often than not, you don't even have to be there that early either, I've made many metas that I've joined 10 minutes before the escort starts. It's still a long meta, but you don't need to waste 2 hours on it. I don't necessarily think that it's a bad thing that you need to organise a squad to have a good chance at succeeding it, especially since anyone can still join and you can still make it. It is still long though, even if you only arrive at the escort phase, but at least you get a decent amount of gold from it. 6 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 I'm a casual and i press all my hotbar keys maybe not like a piano player more like smash them all asap and watch cool downs.. but i do not spam 11111... That said the dodging, CC and dots is usually what ends me.. in most metas. 1 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 13 hours ago, Raizel.8175 said: The event is perfectly fine in its current iteration. What's wrong with having one community-building mainstream meta event? Nothing. Unfortunately, that event doesn;t exactly help with community building. Quite the opposite - it's effect on the rifts already existing within the community is to drive a wedge into them and make them even wider. 10 7 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoni.7015 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Astralporing.1957 said: Nothing. Unfortunately, that event doesn;t exactly help with community building. Quite the opposite - it's effect on the rifts already existing within the community is to drive a wedge into them and make them even wider. This may be true for the forum, but in the game it is quite different. Players coming together, communicate and cooperate. Several new communities, groups and guilds were founded because of the meta. It depends on you if you participate in the community building or if you complain from afar. Edited June 8, 2022 by yoni.7015 3 3 1 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Raizel.8175 said: The event is perfectly fine in its current iteration. What's wrong with having one community-building mainstream meta event? I knew a post saying positive about DE will provoke the confused mob 😂 Edited June 8, 2022 by Ultramex.1506 6 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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