Crono.4197 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 The game just launched on Steam and the Steam forums are full with people that are: - trying to sabotage the game by telling others to stay away from it because it's "pay to win" or other kind of lies - people that don't understand that the Free to Play factor is only a trial and they expected full access to the game - people that complain that 100 dollars for a full collection is too much and that "muh favorite MMO is not priced so high", completely ignoring the "no subscription" factor - people that call the game pay to win after only logging in for a few minutes in it - people complaining why Living Stories aren't sold separately - people that complain about wanting regional pricing Yep, what a great start. People complaining about things they don't understand and don't even wanna try the game first before coming to a conclusion. I guess that's Steam and mainstream "gamers" for you. 5 5 27 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batel.9206 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Oof...kind of guessed that might happen. 🙄 Best we players can do is get in-game ourselves, field questions from newbies, and clear up misconceptions. 5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentriX.3209 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 What did you expect? Anet did an awful job with the marketing, they could have at least released a video explaining the different DLC, Living story, etc. 23 2 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSlay.6973 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) Regional pricing a legit problem. If I was a new customer, seeing $130 price tag would keep me far away. It's what also keeps me from spending in the gem store. It's just too expensive relative to buying power. Best we can do is tell people to try the free version and get them hooked. Then $130. For all the expansions might seem a bargain. Edited August 23, 2022 by SinisterSlay.6973 13 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono.4197 Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) Yep it's always ArenaNet's fault, huh? Not the entitled people and the people that wanna sabotage the game, not at all. /end of sarcasm Too many people are trying to put the blame on ArenaNet. Edited August 23, 2022 by Crono.4197 6 2 2 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorem.8104 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Did we expect anything else with the way Anet markets? Those of us who have been around awhile now know Anet can't market their way out of a paper bag. And this is Steam, where you grab your popcorn and watch the forums explode, happens to every game, I mean Elden Ring Launched out to mixed reviews and a massive flame war in their forums and that game was both new and fine after the pc port was fixed. 10 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crono.4197 Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, SinisterSlay.6973 said: Best we can do is tell people to try the free version and get them hooked. Then $130. For all the expansions might seem a bargain. People seem to confuse the Steam complete edition with the complete edition on ArenaNet's website and they think ArenaNet is ripping them off, but they aren't even bothering to read that the complete edition on the GW2 website only has expansions, while the Steam one has everything. 5 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSlay.6973 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Crono.4197 said: People seem to confuse the Steam complete edition with the complete edition on ArenaNet's website and they think ArenaNet is ripping them off, but they aren't even bothering to read that the complete edition on the GW2 website only has expansions, while the Steam one has everything. Yeah that's another big thing. The difference between expansions and seasons isn't clear. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis.8034 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Honestly I have played a lot of mmos over the years even triple rated ones. This is something that happens to every one of them. You have complaints, you have trolls, you have people that just dont like the game and try to influence others. Does not make the game bad or any of those things they claim, if people followed everyone who downed a game no one would be playing games. simple as that. I have never followed an influencer or a trend im not a sheep or a lemming. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Crono.4197 said: Yep, what a great start. People complaining about things they don't understand and don't even wanna try the game first before coming to a conclusion. I guess that's Steam and mainstream "gamers" for you. Funny thing, if you look at the negative steam reviews like 1-2 appear to be actually new players... maybe... the rest are GW2 players ranting about whatever they can. My favorite one is the one saying he's got 3 accounts with 10k+ hours that he deleted some month ago. So that's not Steams or "mainsteam gamers". It is people from this forum. Edited August 23, 2022 by Dawdler.8521 9 3 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Batel.9206 said: Oof...kind of guessed that might happen. 🙄 Best we players can do is get in-game ourselves, field questions from newbies, and clear up misconceptions. Good luck. I saw two players in Queensdale with mentor tags up posting in map chat that the game was dead and was in maintenance mode. Often. 7 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSlay.6973 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, kharmin.7683 said: Good luck. I saw two players in Queensdale with mentor tags up posting in map chat that the game was dead and was in maintenance mode. Often. Ugh almost need report for trolling option 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batel.9206 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, kharmin.7683 said: Good luck. I saw two players in Queensdale with mentor tags up posting in map chat that the game was dead and was in maintenance mode. Often. ... [headdesk] I think my post a week ago about "okay veteran players, get out there with mentor tags and help the Steam newbies!" may have backfired. Either that, or people are just being trolls on their own. Either way, what a rotten thing to do. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronospere.8143 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Okay negative people on this forum, that i can deal with. But people who actually never played this game. Oof thats get my blood boiling. The last thing that gw2 is is p2w. The things you can buy either doesnt effect other players whatsoever.. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 It’s just the usual fad of review bombing. There was nothing that was going to stop it day one - it’s a hobby for many basement dwellers. They’ll move onto something else in a few days 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Crono.4197 said: The game just launched on Steam and the Steam forums are full with people that are: - trying to sabotage the game by telling others to stay away from it because it's "pay to win" or other kind of lies - people that don't understand that the Free to Play factor is only a trial and they expected full access to the game - people that complain that 100 dollars for a full collection is too much and that "muh favorite MMO is not priced so high", completely ignoring the "no subscription" factor - people that call the game pay to win after only logging in for a few minutes in it - people complaining why Living Stories aren't sold separately - people that complain about wanting regional pricing Yep, what a great start. People complaining about things they don't understand and don't even wanna try the game first before coming to a conclusion. I guess that's Steam and mainstream "gamers" for you. Yep. People whining about things they do not understand, or inventing blatant falsehoods so that they can have internet victim cred, is one of the lovelier fallouts from the rise of social media. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimsley.3681 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 If what's said on Steam is true (neg reviews from new players) then that's quite sad. Just now, I went to the beginner's area in Queensdale and in-game, there were 4 veterans to 1 new player where the veterans were there to help and assist. I thought it was a very nice gesture from the veterans in-game. Sad about the negative reviews this early on. $130 for no sub is not a bad deal and the monetization isn't as aggressive as other mmorpgs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labjax.2465 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 It's no weirder than veteran players making 0 hour positive reviews on steam. I understand people have some self interest in the game doing well so it continues, but we can't make steam players like it (or hate it, for that matter). Best thing you can do if you want people to join and stick around is be friendly and welcoming when people join the community. Remember they are here to play a game if they decided to play, they are not here to take part in meta-drama about new player hype. 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pimsley.3681 said: Just now, I went to the beginner's area in Queensdale and in-game, there were 4 veterans to 1 new player where the veterans were there to help and assist. I thought it was a very nice gesture from the veterans in-game.. The GW2 community can at times be overly helpful and enthusiastic to the point that it can be detrimental and annoying. The equivalent of as soon as you step into a store a store clerk appearing out of nowhere to spam you with if they can help or help you find what you are looking for. The intention is always good but the execution is not. Some people just want to shop at their own pace so to speak. Same applies here. People can be so wrapped up in trying to get people to enjoy the game they like that they do not see they can be a cause of negativity and detriment. Edited August 23, 2022 by Sigmoid.7082 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexterousGecko.6328 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 it's always entertaining see an insulated community struggling to realize that not everyone believes what they believe. 9 1 2 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelW.2685 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 This happens with everything new on the steam forums, it's nothing out of the ordinary. Dolts will complain for 3 days, then things will start settling down and normalcy will set in, always happens. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, Labjax.2465 said: It's no weirder than veteran players making 0 hour positive reviews on steam. I understand people have some self interest in the game doing well so it continues, but we can't make steam players like it (or hate it, for that matter). Best thing you can do if you want people to join and stick around is be friendly and welcoming when people join the community. Remember they are here to play a game if they decided to play, they are not here to take part in meta-drama about new player hype. Agreed. People who genuinely dont care for the game are one thing. People making false statements are something else. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizel.8175 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Crono.4197 said: People seem to confuse the Steam complete edition with the complete edition on ArenaNet's website and they think ArenaNet is ripping them off, but they aren't even bothering to read that the complete edition on the GW2 website only has expansions, while the Steam one has everything. That's not the fault of the Steam audience though. The way ArenaNet handles Living World episodes was always questionable. In fact, I'd say that they should generally be free. The Steam audience can rightfully expect them to be free in the first place. You only pay for expansions in other MMORPGs too, after all. TL;DR: It's ArenaNets own kitten fault. 8 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Raizel.8175 said: You only pay for expansions in other MMORPGs too, after all. TL;DR: It's ArenaNets own kitten fault. All DLC is free in all other MMOs? Genuinely curious because I've only played a half dozen or so. Edited August 23, 2022 by Ashen.2907 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garpu.6210 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, kharmin.7683 said: Good luck. I saw two players in Queensdale with mentor tags up posting in map chat that the game was dead and was in maintenance mode. Often. Shame I can't post the Nathan Fillion gif. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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