Grand Marshal.4098 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Anything cele aside, I'd say there are different tiers of braindead with condi builds. For me Garbigner is top contender for most annoyingly overpowered condi spec, followed by tank renegades with their beloved shortbow, block/confu spike virtuosos and closing off with immobbeasts that simply can't die. For power builds, rupt-focused SA daredevils will never stop being annoying, Deadeyes too, at least you can reflect those and they don't have crazy dodge synergy. Willbenders zooming around will always be annoying, same with bow rangers going full zerk and running away with petswap on merge when you try to gap close. I prefer getting gunflame focused. I'd say those are my worst picks rn. You can add some cele ele somewhere there ofc. Surprisingly few burst builds being played these days from what I have encountered. What's your list? 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas.2564 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Grand Marshal.4098 said: For me Garbigner is top contender for most annoyingly overpowered condi spec, followed by tank renegades with their beloved shortbow, block/confu spike virtuosos and closing off with immobbeasts that simply can't die. Noone plays this garbage. If ur loosing to harb, its cele, 100%. Full condi harb has 0 dmg since it only stacks torment, which is TOTALLY USELESS after nerf a few years back. To make torment even do a tiny significant amount if dmg, one would have to stack more then +70 stacks of this useles condition. Further more, full condi harb has 0 boon duration, so 0 might, so the already TOTALLY USELESS torment, is doing even less dmg. I promise u, no player with even an aunce of commen sence, is running full condi based harb. Kekw! 1 1 1 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferus.3165 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 most annoying and broken s tier build since release, the D/P Daredevil. No other class or even spec comes close to how dumb Daredevil is.. not even deadeye. 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zok.4956 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Grand Marshal.4098 said: Your most hated specs to fight against? Anything that has a lot of invisibility and mobility at the same time. But I don't hate these. It's just annoying as hell. So annoying that I don't even try to fight them. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizgurk.5639 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Grand Marshal.4098 said: What's your list? You mentioned tank renegades with shortbow and I feel you here. It's not specs I hate, but rather the playstyle and how it's build. I detest people who spend every single Utility Skill, Trait, Rune, Sigil and Relic into something purely defensive. Like those tank renegades who make one miserable attempt with Sevenshot, then switch to staff, dodge, block, run away, doing nothing, just to fail yet another attempt to hit me with Sevenshot. And most of them run back to their base the moment they realize their upcoming demise... Why to people even play like this? I'd be so bored playing such a build. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edu.6984 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) Most annoying spec by a huge margin necromancer underwater. Other annoying specs: glass sword thief and harbinger. Edited September 7, 2023 by Edu.6984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezrael.6859 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Zerker Staff OWP Soulbeast, Zerker Scepter Daredevil; both are utterly broken, able to delete people at range in 1-2 seconds spamming just one skill. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disForm.2837 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I'd say daredevil and willbender. Stealth and/or high mobility is annoying for less mobile classes. And obviously they run a ton of stun breaks so CC them is not easy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiral.8915 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I hate berserkers 😛 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedievalThings.5417 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Still cele holosmith for me. Holo counters what I am playing most nowadays, the cele version just has more sustain than I can eat through. Even with 4k power. The mobility creep has made fighting less fun as just about every class just instant 3k ranges away and mounts. Like bro, why did you start a fight you were planning on running from...? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Bizgurk.5639 said: You mentioned tank renegades with shortbow and I feel you here. It's not specs I hate, but rather the playstyle and how it's build. I detest people who spend every single Utility Skill, Trait, Rune, Sigil and Relic into something purely defensive. Like those tank renegades who make one miserable attempt with Sevenshot, then switch to staff, dodge, block, run away, doing nothing, just to fail yet another attempt to hit me with Sevenshot. And most of them run back to their base the moment they realize their upcoming demise... Why to people even play like this? I'd be so bored playing such a build. Same reason bad Yugioh players play decks full of floodgates. If you don't know how to play, the best option is to make sure your opponent can't play/win. For bad players, playing as defensive as possible is that best way to pretend being usefull/skillfull. 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyBat.9034 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Death Magic Harbinger (because I can lose to it on my two favorite elite specs, Holo and Bladesworn). Power Block Chronomancer (because it hard counters the melee/power playstyle of my Holo thanks to its high skill ceiling and broken utility). D/P Daredevil (ever since they gave superspeed to thief Holo lost its edge, a good thief will perma reset). Cele/Power Deadeye (the good ones are so troll to fight on Holo) Bladesworn (perma reflect is a super unhealthy mechanic, I would not want to fight my Bladesworn build on my Holo). Daze Spam Mirage (it's kinda hard to play the game when they rip stab, and spam dazes). Defense Spellbreakers (too tank to die + bugged breaching strike = no fun allowed). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) mesmers i really get confused with the clones Ç_Ç and perms stealth thieves that dont render in my screen (even npc's from spawn and alies/anemies are being cullied overall with all setings to min) looks like lately i am having huge desync client status (players not apearing the right position then ic every one teleport but fun fact people see me teleport as well). Edited September 7, 2023 by Aeolus.3615 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1. Willbender - they stick to you like sweat in the nether region with mobility spam 2. Harbinger - shotgun condi spam 3. Deadeye - ranged stealth spam 4. Daredevil - stealth evade spam These are all gank material, I don't even feel bad whenever they get run over by groups. I got better things to do with my time than to waste it on these. 🤷♂️ 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoSundown.5419 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 9 hours ago, Bizgurk.5639 said: You mentioned tank renegades with shortbow and I feel you here. It's not specs I hate, but rather the playstyle and how it's build. I detest people who spend every single Utility Skill, Trait, Rune, Sigil and Relic into something purely defensive. Like those tank renegades who make one miserable attempt with Sevenshot, then switch to staff, dodge, block, run away, doing nothing, just to fail yet another attempt to hit me with Sevenshot. And most of them run back to their base the moment they realize their upcoming demise... Why to people even play like this? I'd be so bored playing such a build. When you don't know how to win, you focus on not losing. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Hate? None. Sorry, but then again I play most classes and elites. Ele in all forms are the most questionable since they have a lot of build options and its never clear what you may be facing at that time so each fight has to be taken as it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianth Moonlight.6453 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 none really. I can take on anyone that can actually fight. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Arianth Moonlight.6453 said: none really. I can take on anyone that can actually fight. ... does that mean you cant take on anyone that cant actually fight? 🤔 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esufer.8762 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said: ... does that mean you cant take on anyone that cant actually fight? 🤔 dawdler asking the real questions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, TheGrimm.5624 said: Ele in all forms are the most questionable since they have a lot of build options and its never clear what you may be facing at that time so each fight has to be taken as it goes. Eles lacks constant power pressure builds like for excample willbender or reaper are. These builds are best countered with a lot of sustain untill they run out of gas and then apply damage yourself. For example a marauder reaper will always lose to a soldier reaper in a duell of equal skill level. So for me against eles the build / gear choice is the easiest without any exception: I go full glass canon to overwhelm them. Otherwise the typical roaming eles simply are unkillable because they are all attrition builds (a ton of regeneration, a block/invuln here and there, constant mediocre pressure that will kill you eventually). If I run into one of the very rare ele oneshot builds, I have 2 stunbreaks and 3 dodges (sigill of energy) in each of my builds to survive their stunlock attempt and then counterburst their tiny health pool. Edited September 8, 2023 by KrHome.1920 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluberblasen.9684 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1)All kind of elem 2) all kind of thief 3) Cele harbinger 4) Cele willbender 5) immortal vindicator 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 I see other people have encountered the dreaded SB vindicator. That is up there with Tank Rangers for specs that I hate fighting. They're piloted by people more concerned with pushing buttons than achieving anything, and their idea of fun is a Sisyphean stalemate on obscure corners of the map. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianth Moonlight.6453 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 11 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: ... does that mean you cant take on anyone that cant actually fight? hard to take on them when all they do is run... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 For me it's how the person fights rather than what build they are playing. The ones that attack you and fail and then you end up chasing them all the way back to their tower... the ones that insist you fight them and their t3 iron guard npcs... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, Justine.6351 said: For me it's how the person fights rather than what build they are playing. The ones that attack you and fail and then you end up chasing them all the way back to their tower... the ones that insist you fight them and their t3 iron guard npcs... Are you blaming the enemy for fighting at a location they can use to their advantage because you chased them all the way back to it? That's like a thief saying the enemy insisted on him using stealth to make the fight more even. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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