Why Have My PoF Hearts Been Reset?

[Kraggy.4169]

I have full map completions for the first three zones, such as Crystal Oasis is 4/4 on the map status but all of them are empty and when I mouse-over the heart icon on the status panel all four flash like they're not done.

I thought it happened before but wasn't sure, now I am.

I need to purchase stuff for the Griffon but can't even though I've completed the heart.

How do I fix this?

[Oglaf.1074]

Because someone at Anet thought that forcing you to repeat hearts = a good way to add longevity to expansion pack areas.

You have to do it all over again whenever you wish to buy stuff from the heart NPC.

[Kraggy.4169]

OMG you're joking! That's asinine beyond belief.

Thanks for the bad news. :)

[Just a flesh wound.3589]

It’s because on the old forum there were threads asking for hearts to be re-doable as some thought it would be fun.

No accounting for tastes imo.

[Oglaf.1074]

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:It’s because on the old forum there were threads asking for hearts to be re-doable as some thought it would be fun.

No accounting for tastes imo.

I would not be against such an option, personally; some hearts I recall as being quite fun.

Of course the keyword here is option.

[Just a flesh wound.3589]

@Oglaf.1074 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:It’s because on the old forum there were threads asking for hearts to be re-doable as some thought it would be fun.

No accounting for tastes imo.

I would not be against such an option, personally; some hearts I recall as being quite fun.

Of course the keyword here is

option

.

Of course. However

Be careful what you ask for.ANet might give it to you.

[Danikat.8537]

I think a better middle ground would be for the heart activities to be repeatable, but the merchant to be permanently unlocked once you've completed it once. As far as I remember the people asking for repeatable hearts never said they wanted to be required to do them to access the merchants, just that they enjoyed completing hearts and wanted to be able to do it more than once.

But as it stands all hearts in Season 3, Season 4 and PoF maps reset daily (same time as other daily resets) so if you want to buy something from them you have to complete the heart again. Fortunately none of them seem to take very long, even if there aren't events running in the area.

[SlateSloan.3654]

add a dialog option on each hearts npc „hey wanderer want to do the tasks again?“ yes/no to reset the heart on demand

[Randulf.7614]

Repeatable hearts was a good idea, locking the vendor behind repeating it wasn't

I'd prefer;

• Complete Heart once for access to vendor
• Repeat Heart for bonus currency and karma reward

Pretty much win/win then. Those who hate hearts only have to do them once and those who enjoy doing them get rewarded

[Blocki.4931]

But they don't force anybody to do it? And boohoo, you need to play 5 min to buy an item for a collection if you actually have to talk to one of them, big deal.

[FrizzFreston.5290]

I've always been for repeatable hearts myself as well. I don't really mind specific rewards behind the merchant either.As I see it people are completing events over and over and over again to farm some currency but when it comes to hearts, where the tasks in my opinion are just as repetitive as escort/kill/defend events.

Though I don't mind some tweaks that make the merchant more permanently available. Or parts of it, or whatever is fitting.

[Blude.6812]

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:It’s because on the old forum there were threads asking for hearts to be re-doable as some thought it would be fun.

No accounting for tastes imo.

Nothing wrong with hearts being re-doable, but locking the vendor until you redo!!!! One of the worst game play decisions ever.

[Hamfast.8719]

This is SERIOUS? I thought my game was bugged, and it upset me enough to turn off the game. (I had this issue in Lake Doric the other day, and I see that my Heart vendor is gone again! GRRRRR!)

HUGE mistake, ANet! If some people want to repeat hearts, fine. But forcing everyone to repeat them every time they want to use a vendor is just going to piss off a lot of folks. Fix this.

[Fingolfin.8635]

@Hamfast.8719 said:This is SERIOUS? I thought my game was bugged, and it upset me enough to turn off the game. (I had this issue in Lake Doric the other day, and I see that my Heart vendor is gone again! GRRRRR!)

HUGE mistake, ANet! If some people want to repeat hearts, fine. But forcing everyone to repeat them every time they want to use a vendor is just going to kitten off a lot of folks. Fix this.

yeah its a bad system

[Zeefa.3915]

I have learned to live with it for the maps where this is the case. But yeah... it is a slight inconvenience...I enjoy doing them... the first time. I don't absolutely hate doing them again if I have to access the vendor, its not that different to other things I go about doing in game.It does hurt the completionist in me a bit to see those hearts not filled all the time... but I live.

[Ayakaru.6583]

Repeatable hearts:Fun if you like them.<1min. work if you dont like them or need to buy something.The overreaction to this system is more asinine than the system itself..

[Tachenon.5270]

I see it as s a fun-blocking, pointless time sink, implemented expressly to annoy people.

[Vayne.8563]

@Hamfast.8719 said:This is SERIOUS? I thought my game was bugged, and it upset me enough to turn off the game. (I had this issue in Lake Doric the other day, and I see that my Heart vendor is gone again! GRRRRR!)

HUGE mistake, ANet! If some people want to repeat hearts, fine. But forcing everyone to repeat them every time they want to use a vendor is just going to kitten off a lot of folks. Fix this.

This has been in the game since the second story in Season 3, so well over a year. There's been a few complaints about it, but no, but lots of people know about it, and there's not a huge public outcry. At best it means buying stuff the first time you do the heart, at worst it means five or ten minutes to use the heart guy again.

Would it be better if the merchants were unlocked permanently. Sure it would. Is it a big deal either way? Not really. It's not like this is something new. It's something you're just learning about. The huge public outcry isn't there.

[notebene.3190]

I personally like the idea of the hearts being repeatable, but where I shake out on whether you have access to the vendor is this:

Items that cost, in part or in full, any expansion/zone currency, then they should be locked behind completion. All other items and the sell and buyback tabs should be available all the time. So something like buying volatile magic tools, which only cost karma, should be available all the time.

Oh, and the experience required to repeat the hearts should be halved.

Having said that, those being my personal wishes for change, I would not be opposed if they changed it to 'completely' keeping the heart vendors unlocked, and repeating them for fun, karma, other rewards is optional.

[Blocki.4931]

Not to mention that each of them have daily purchases like map currency behind them. Is it asking for too much that you play the game and get rewarded with a small amount of guaranteed currency? Definitely not. Especially for Bloodstone Rubies or Petrified Wood

[Zaraki.5784]

@Blocki.4931 said:But they don't force anybody to do it? And boohoo, you need to play 5 min to buy an item for a collection if you actually have to talk to one of them, big deal.

You are actually forced because many collection items are sold by those vendors, and yes, it is a big deal because those 5 mins are boring as hell.

[Sylvari.2953]

My only problem with repeatable Hearts is that some of them take forever to finish. Like that sneaky one in Lake Doric when we get transformed into White Mantle. Ugh.

[Kraggy.4169]

@Oglaf.1074 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:It’s because on the old forum there were threads asking for hearts to be re-doable as some thought it would be fun.

No accounting for tastes imo.

I would not be against such an option, personally; some hearts I recall as being quite fun.

Of course the keyword here is

option

.

Correct.

The thought did occur to me that this may be the reason and back in the original leveling areas I can see that would be, as you highlight, a good OPTION .. a simple dialog topic asking the NPC to 'reset' would be all that's needed. What makes it more unbelievable is that when you complete it the confirmation dialog says you've UNLOCKED it!

@Zaraki.5784 said:

@Blocki.4931 said:But they don't force anybody to do it? And boohoo, you need to play 5 min to buy an item for a collection if you actually have to talk to one of them, big deal.

You are actually forced because many collection items are sold by those vendors, and yes, it is a big deal because those 5 mins are boring as hell.

And some are much more than 5 minutes if the conditions aren't right.

[Oglaf.1074]

“Hey Mr/Mrs Heart Person, still need help with X?”

“Sure do!”

Resets the heart.

[Ashen.2907]

The part that gets me, from an immersion standpoint at least, is:

Yesterday I saved your farm/home/life or something of the sort.Today you wont even sell me an X.

These NPCs have got to be some sort of special dbags to, as merchants, not be willing to even do business with the person who saved them just yesterday.