arafel.9801 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Well yes either restore them for free or just place the achievement validation way like the dragonsblood ones. Such a fail happens when you write a story and its achievements as a whole then broke it in parts without thinking about the delay between two consecutive parts, I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasi.9065 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Its Anets new scheme to get you to buy more character and bank slots. Never knowing what you might need later again, you have to store everything. Didnt you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 @Milea.6043 said:OK We need to remake all the Restored Boreal Weapons to make the Illuminated? Seriously? You've got to be Kitten kidding me.What?!? They did that??? NOOOOO. :cry:Edit: Okay, just checked out the new skins. They look totally sci-fi to me, not fantasy style. So it doesn't matter for me, not going to make them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeftheWicked.3076 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 @KingJoko.1625 said:@Geoff Fey.1035 said:In what way do they need to be remade?As in:you need the Restored Boreal Weapon as a recipe component to create the Illuminated Boreal Weapon?the achievement for Illuminated Boreal Weapons does not retroactively unlock even if you still have all of the Restored Boreal Weapons?You need the actual tier2 weapons in physical form, not in achievement, which 99% of players salvaged..And ppl bi...complain about THAT? REALLY?Needing them in physical form should be obvious. If you want the skin you got T1 for that. I sure as heck won't blame a-net for that one, it was common logic to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memoranda.9386 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Everyone I knew made fun of me for keeping them. Glad to know my gambit paid off, but definitely feel bad for those that already salvaged the weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 @ZeftheWicked.3076 said:@KingJoko.1625 said:@"Geoff Fey.1035" said:In what way do they need to be remade?As in:you need the Restored Boreal Weapon as a recipe component to create the Illuminated Boreal Weapon?the achievement for Illuminated Boreal Weapons does not retroactively unlock even if you still have all of the Restored Boreal Weapons?You need the actual tier2 weapons in physical form, not in achievement, which 99% of players salvaged..And ppl bi...complain about THAT? REALLY?Needing them in physical form should be obvious. If you want the skin you got T1 for that. I sure as heck won't blame a-net for that one, it was common logic to me.I mean, Anet should have to think like their player base not the other way around. They should have thought "If I was a player, I would probably have salvaged these to save bank space and would probably be pretty frustrated if I had to re-craft them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renkku.7451 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I really want the new weapons but making the tier 2 for a second time doesn't feel rewarding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Holy crap, really?! I just put in a ticket as well, I expect them to get BOMBARDED over this. They definitely need to come up with a not-one-player-at-a-time solution to this, what a huge screwup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlow.5376 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Oh boy, Anet, where have you gotten yourself into this time? :/I for my part kept my whole weapon set for that reason. I found the turn that you would need the 1st tier in order to upgrade it to the 2nd quite obvious to be honest (i mean doesn't the term to upgrade imply that?)... then again i didn't play the whole last season of LW, where (i now see) they used the exact same term for a slightly different concept (speaking of the dragonsblood weapons). So the Problem is not that this time their wording was misleading (because that's exactly what an upgrade is about), but the one in the last season in LW. And hence people who played it of course believed it would be the same concept... oh boy, i feel you pals!But this leads to a problem, because if the Support just restores your weapons, people who do it the "supposed" way would be at a disadvantage (because we put in those extra eitrite ingots)... and don't get me wrong. I'm not crying about how unfair this would be, but simply thinking about a reason why the support might not be allowed to do it (i even don't know if the support is allowed to do such things at all?). So maybe it would fairer to give an option to restore your restored boreal weapon (no pun intended) if you pay whatever you salvaged from it (via support or ingame-trade-menu).Oh, and as a sidenote: if you consider writing a ticket to the support pls, pls be respectful. Even if it takes some time, the guy working on your ticket is the last person who deserves to be ranted on. Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I, too, am disappointed since I threw most of mine in the Mystic Forge...just for bank inventory space.Sad Skritt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 @ZeftheWicked.3076 said:@KingJoko.1625 said:@Geoff Fey.1035 said:In what way do they need to be remade?As in:you need the Restored Boreal Weapon as a recipe component to create the Illuminated Boreal Weapon?the achievement for Illuminated Boreal Weapons does not retroactively unlock even if you still have all of the Restored Boreal Weapons?You need the actual tier2 weapons in physical form, not in achievement, which 99% of players salvaged..And ppl bi...complain about THAT? REALLY?Needing them in physical form should be obvious. If you want the skin you got T1 for that. I sure as heck won't blame a-net for that one, it was common logic to me.Glad you are able to see into the future. None if us are able to, so none of us even expected a T3 upgrade.Your reasoning only makes sense if T3 upgrades were mentioned with the implementation of the T1 skins and T2 weapons. Especially since the step from T1 to T2 was only achievement based.I personally don't mind since I have enough ingots stored up to recraft and nearly craft all the upgraded weapons. I am baffled at this implementation though and can fully understand players being enraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gop.8713 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 This is disappointing. There was even a thread about it when the preview released asking anet not to do this . . .On the upside, they have been responsive to player concerns of late and this will likely meet with near universal disapproval, so perhaps an adjustment will be forthcoming. We'll have to wait and see . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 @Gop.8713 said:This is disappointing. There was even a thread about it when the preview released asking anet not to do this . . .On the upside, they have been responsive to player concerns of late and this will likely meet with near universal disapproval, so perhaps an adjustment will be forthcoming. We'll have to wait and see . . .The annoying part is they have to go back and change this stuff due to outrage instead of having better foresight. It's not a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Why did they have to mention the crafted weapon? Why didn't they just list the ingredients? I doubt the rage would be the same. Example for the Axe:1x Berserker's Imbued Orichalcum Inscription1x Orichalcum Axe Blade1x Ancient Axe Haft2x Amalgated Draconic Lodestones10x Globs of Ectoplasm45x Eitrite IngotsI already expected the new Illuminated Boreal Weapons to be craft-able again. I already expected them to use the boring Berserker's Inscription again, plenty of Eitrite Ingots and probably a new special ingredient. So I am not that much surprised. Except for the Lodestones, all materials waited stacked up just for the launch. Obtaining the Ingots and shards is a lot faster/easier now. So the only thing that really holds us back are the Lodestones. I would have liked to see the new weapons with a stat-select option and an upgrade-method to ascended rarity. The skins are nice, especially for the weapons which usually lack decent skins. So when I am going to craft those, I maybe invert my regular prioritization.Cool down a little and think about it with a clear mind. The situation is not as troublesome as it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocofox.9503 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I finished the achievement for the tier 2 like many others salvaged them all as there was no indication we would need them for the future. Either the recipe needs changed or those who have completed the weapons should be able to buy them back from a vendor for say map curency and just make it so they can not be salvaged or thrown into the mystic forge. I am hoping we hear an update on this else I may join the crowd sending customer support a ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloc Freidon.5692 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 This is the first time where the "tier" tag actually means what it is supposed to, upgrading to a new level with the previous version. No one should be surprised that players are going to get mad when Anet decides require the previous set when they have not done that for multiple seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gq Fresh.1764 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 This is so disappointing. Why would this be instituted now with now precedent or warning. I mean honestly, who holds onto an entire weapon set? This is unreal. The boreal weapon set was disappointing in itself but, now I'm to understand that to have the tier 3, I have to still possess the tier 2. For those of us that have legendary weapons yet still enjoy changing the skins out from time to time, this is unreasonable. I, for one, will not be rebuilding tier 2 simply to have tier 3. To heck with the illuminated weapons. Bad move A-Net, really bad.I was further disappointed by the weapons that were put out with this years New Year of the Rat. While I heard that A-Net "heard" us and was going to add some enhancements on the 28th, the actuality was that they degraded the weapons (at least the staff) in the stored position, only to return it to what it was when it was originally issued. Is this what "new management" looks like? I'm a long-time fan of the game but, you've really disappointed me with these recent moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrusse.7058 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Yeah this is not okay Arenanet. Change the recipe or restore the weapons to for everyone if they are unlocked.There is no way any player could have known this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaralyna.3104 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I have not sold all my tier 2 weapons yet but.... (I can't keep them around for a long time either before I have all the materials to craft the tier 3...). There indeed was no indication we would have to use them again in physical form as the tier 1 to 2 didn't need it so I want Anet to change tier 3 requirement to how it was on tier 1 - tier 2. Or a free physical weapon unlocked on an npc when you meet the requirement of having done its tier 2 achievement (they can unlock purchases like this as we saw before). If you can't sell any item for free then just add 1 karma or 1 copper to it. If they don't fix on short term I would also join the rush of support tickets on this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foozlesprite.8051 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I'm usually the type to rush to Anet's defense and give them the benefit of the doubt, but even I have to admit this was a flat-out terrible decision. I would have had no problem whatsoever with this if they had told us ahead of time that we would need our physical copy of the T2s to craft T3s. And I wouldn't have been as upset if both the T2s and T3s didn't require a time-gated ingredient. We weren't told until recently (long after I had crafted and salvaged my T2s) that there would even BE T3s. Since most of my characters already have ascended or legendary weapons or use a different stat set, I had zero need to retain the items, and now I'm looking at farming time-gated stuff all over again. It really brings down my overall mood about an otherwise mostly enjoyable episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugrakarma.9416 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 @"Yasi.9065" said:Its Anets new scheme to get you to buy more character and bank slots. Never knowing what you might need later again, you have to store everything. Didnt you know?neither this is so new, any day i will take a screen of a tons of crap i have in the status of "one day i can need this". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElderNewt.5840 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 What a mess.To not even have a simple tag line on the T2 weapons telling places the actual weapon is needed for T3.Hopefully Anet will have a response by the time I've finished work tomorrow So i don't need to wonder what's going on anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Really missed the mark on this. Requiring those weapons without giving any hint that they might be needed for crafting in the future is akin to releasing a set of weapons today that can only be crafted from gear collected during Personal Story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sico.6941 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I have to agree on this one. That is a real kick in the gut. They really missed the mark regarding these weapons being needed for the next tier. /disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knite.1542 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 People are always saying they want more content. This is content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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