miifi.2150 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 IMO 1v1 should be the absolute standard in every PvP game, how is there no 1v1 PvP in this game?Is my ego here the problem?I am genuinely confused how there is no 1v1 PvP in some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar.4257 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Really? It should be pretty obvious why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aktium.9506 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 The game isn't balanced for 1v1.Multiple classes have matchups against other classes that are practically unwinnable assuming equal or similar skill level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 @miifi.2150 said:IMO 1v1 should be the absolute standard in every PvP game, how is there no 1v1 PvP in this game?Is my ego here the problem?I am genuinely confused how there is no 1v1 PvP in some games.To have viable 1v1 builds available on every class, you have to design the game a certain way. GW2 was absolutely not designed this way, PvP was viewed as interaction of opposing teams. Both game design and later balancing efforts aimed to make 5v5 the enjoyable, balanced experience.Teamfighting requires you to specialise into a role. Every class is better at different roles, for example a thief will never facetank the enemy damage in a teamfight, but it can outrun everything. This level of specialisation means some classes have the tools to 1v1, while others lack some of it, and a few unlucky ones cannot 1v1 at all.1v1 in general is very basic and entry level PvP. This game aimed to be the new ESL hit(yeah i know, it sounds funny 8 years later, but they did start out with the intention), and serious&competetive PvP games usually revolve around competeing teams, so thats the enviroment the devs wanted to create with this game aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 @Bazsi.2734 said:@miifi.2150 said:IMO 1v1 should be the absolute standard in every PvP game, how is there no 1v1 PvP in this game?Is my ego here the problem?I am genuinely confused how there is no 1v1 PvP in some games.To have viable 1v1 builds available on every class, you have to design the game a certain way. GW2 was absolutely not designed this way, PvP was viewed as interaction of opposing teams. Both game design and later balancing efforts aimed to make 5v5 the enjoyable, balanced experience.Teamfighting requires you to specialise into a role. Every class is better at different roles, for example a thief will never facetank the enemy damage in a teamfight, but it can outrun everything. This level of specialisation means some classes have the tools to 1v1, while others lack some of it, and a few unlucky ones cannot 1v1 at all.1v1 in general is very basic and entry level PvP. This game aimed to be the new ESL hit(yeah i know, it sounds funny 8 years later, but they did start out with the intention), and serious&competetive PvP games usually revolve around competeing teams, so thats the enviroment the devswanted to create with this game aswell.who cares. 1v1 is still some of the most fun content this game has to offer. 1v1 miniseason please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellesee.8297 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1v1 is the standard in 0 games lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokenPWNZ.7628 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 @Aktium.9506 said:The game isn't balanced for 1v1.its mean NO BALANCE at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 @ellesee.8297 said:1v1 is the standard in 0 games lol.basically every fighting game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 @Quadox.7834 said:@Bazsi.2734 said:@miifi.2150 said:IMO 1v1 should be the absolute standard in every PvP game, how is there no 1v1 PvP in this game?Is my ego here the problem?I am genuinely confused how there is no 1v1 PvP in some games.To have viable 1v1 builds available on every class, you have to design the game a certain way. GW2 was absolutely not designed this way, PvP was viewed as interaction of opposing teams. Both game design and later balancing efforts aimed to make 5v5 the enjoyable, balanced experience.Teamfighting requires you to specialise into a role. Every class is better at different roles, for example a thief will never facetank the enemy damage in a teamfight, but it can outrun everything. This level of specialisation means some classes have the tools to 1v1, while others lack some of it, and a few unlucky ones cannot 1v1 at all.1v1 in general is very basic and entry level PvP. This game aimed to be the new ESL hit(yeah i know, it sounds funny 8 years later, but they did start out with the intention), and serious&competetive PvP games usually revolve around competeing teams, so thats the enviroment the devswanted to create with this game aswell.who cares. 1v1 is still some of the most fun content this game has to offer. 1v1 miniseason please.He asked for reasons. So he does. I'm glad to know you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Zebra.8597 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 if they made 1v1 gamemode, literally all you'd see at top tier play is thief v thief. in open field 1v1, thief literally can never lose if they dont want to. if they add a damage field on a timer like in 2v2/3v3, you'd see the same AOE spam meta as in our current gamemodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Can't you just fight 1vs1 with friends in your guild hall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentfir.7430 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 @Fueki.4753 said:Can't you just fight 1vs1 with friends in your guild hall?One gripe with Guild halls Arena I've always had was that it uses PVE versions of things like Retaliation and confusion instead of WvW version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 @Lucentfir.7430 said:@Fueki.4753 said:Can't you just fight 1vs1 with friends in your guild hall?One gripe with Guild halls Arena I've always had was that it uses PVE versions of things like Retaliation and confusion instead of WvW version.we tried 1v1 in guild arena, my 1shot core mesmer did over 50k damage in a combo from stealth.my friends reaper did over 8k dmg with 1 tick of his down-state basic attack.shit is unbalanced yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 deadeye vs deadeye v2the restealthening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 @Stand The Wall.6987 said:deadeye vs deadeye v2the restealtheningNothing is ever going to happen in that matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Raid Boss: Lich Form solo version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susy.7529 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Mesmer vs Mesmer is almost like the usual 5vs5 mid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 @Hogwarts Zebra.8597 said:if they made 1v1 gamemode, literally all you'd see at top tier play is thief v thief. in open field 1v1, thief literally can never lose if they dont want to. if they add a damage field on a timer like in 2v2/3v3, you'd see the same AOE spam meta as in our current gamemodesadd perma reveal after a certain duration :) easy :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 @NorthernRedStar.3054 said:Raid Boss: Lich Form solo version.moa or feedback get fkd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 @Bazsi.2734 said:@"miifi.2150" said:IMO 1v1 should be the absolute standard in every PvP game, how is there no 1v1 PvP in this game?Is my ego here the problem?I am genuinely confused how there is no 1v1 PvP in some games.To have viable 1v1 builds available on every class, you have to design the game a certain way.You absolutely don't. 2v2 and 3v3, which are already in the game, aren't perfectly balanced with every class having a meta spot, yet this doesn't stop many from enjoying those gamemodes. So this is in fact not relevant.GW2 was absolutely not designed this way, PvP was viewed as interaction of opposing teams. Both game design and later balancing efforts aimed to make 5v5 the enjoyable, balanced experience.Teamfighting requires you to specialise into a role. Every class is better at different roles, for example a thief will never facetank the enemy damage in a teamfight, but it can outrun everything. This level of specialisation means some classes have the tools to 1v1, while others lack some of it, and a few unlucky ones cannot 1v1 at all.1v1 in general is very basic and entry level PvP. This game aimed to be the new ESL hit(yeah i know, it sounds funny 8 years later, but they did start out with the intention), and serious&competetive PvP games usually revolve around competeing teams, so thats the enviroment the devs wanted to create with this game aswell."1v1 in general is very basic and entry level PvP" now this is just objectively incorrect and it is disappointing that some people chose to upvote a comment that contains statements like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crozame.4098 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 @Quadox.7834 said:@"Bazsi.2734" said:1v1 in general is very basic and entry level PvP. This game aimed to be the new ESL hit(yeah i know, it sounds funny 8 years later, but they did start out with the intention), and serious&competetive PvP games usually revolve around competeing teams, so thats the enviroment the devs wanted to create with this game aswell."1v1 in general is very basic and entry level PvP" now this is just objectively incorrect and it is disappointing that some people chose to upvote a comment that contains statements like these.Why this statement is wrong? To get good at the game, start to practise 1v1s is arguably the most effective way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberzombie.7348 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 There are dedicated 1v1 hotjoin servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flumek.9043 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 @"miifi.2150" said:IMO 1v1 should be the absolute standard in every PvP game, how is there no 1v1 PvP in this game?Is my ego here the problem?I am genuinely confused how there is no 1v1 PvP in some games.If you want 1v1 ,just go into WvW and tell me how long your brain lasted playing duel with "shadow arts cool squishy ninjas who cant die".Btw, theres more.Almost every other class has a stupid duelist build. Theres a reason why the community chosen 1v1 format in private servers, WAS ZERKER/0 TOUGHNESS ONLY .... AND THATS IN 2013 !!! thats before all the powercreep !!Also, gw2 combat = conquestWithout the small circle to stand in, gw2s melee combat just fals apart. The walk speed is horribly slow, perma swift is must, even then its meh AND theres A LOT of cripple... poeple would just kite and never dieSo in short, dont even think about it.If you want 1v1s, just play a duelist and push far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNOwen.7132 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 @Hogwarts Zebra.8597 said:if they made 1v1 gamemode, literally all you'd see at top tier play is thief v thief. in open field 1v1, thief literally can never lose if they dont want to. if they add a damage field on a timer like in 2v2/3v3, you'd see the same AOE spam meta as in our current gamemodesLmao no. Thief would be one of the 2 or 3 classes you would never see played at the top. Without being able to run away, thief cant do anything but lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 @Quadox.7834 said:@Bazsi.2734 said:@"miifi.2150" said:IMO 1v1 should be the absolute standard in every PvP game, how is there no 1v1 PvP in this game?Is my ego here the problem?I am genuinely confused how there is no 1v1 PvP in some games.To have viable 1v1 builds available on every class, you have to design the game a certain way.You absolutely don't. 2v2 and 3v3, which are already in the game, aren't perfectly balanced with every class having a meta spot, yet this doesn't stop many from enjoying those gamemodes. So this is in fact not relevant.GW2 was absolutely not designed this way, PvP was viewed as interaction of opposing teams. Both game design and later balancing efforts aimed to make 5v5 the enjoyable, balanced experience.Teamfighting requires you to specialise into a role. Every class is better at different roles, for example a thief will never facetank the enemy damage in a teamfight, but it can outrun everything. This level of specialisation means some classes have the tools to 1v1, while others lack some of it, and a few unlucky ones cannot 1v1 at all.1v1 in general is very basic and entry level PvP. This game aimed to be the new ESL hit(yeah i know, it sounds funny 8 years later, but they did start out with the intention), and serious&competetive PvP games usually revolve around competeing teams, so thats the enviroment the devs wanted to create with this game aswell."1v1 in general is very basic and entry level PvP" now this is just objectively incorrect and it is disappointing that some people chose to upvote a comment that contains statements like these."1v1 in general is very basic and entry level PvP. This game aimed to be the new ESL hit(yeah i know, it sounds funny 8 years later, but they did start out with the intention), and serious&competetive PvP games usually revolve around competeing teams"Read this full quote again, surely you see how wrong it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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