Gorilla.4120 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 @Cal Cohen.2358 said on January 31, 2020:Future Balance CadenceThis patch is unusual in that it’s more about establishing a new paradigm than it is a regular balance update, and the result is a giant set of changes. Moving forward with competitive balance, we want to make smaller adjustments more often. The specific cadence for balance will always depend on our overall release schedule, but ideally it will be closer to every 4-6 weeks, while still having the opportunity to make minor tweaks outside of the regular balance update. The goal here is to have better flexibility to fix problems in a timely manner.So is that in metric weeks or imperial weeks?All joking aside, it's been over 20 weeks since the last balance patch and nearly a year since the cd's of some traits were increased to 300s as a place holder.I understand 2020 has been a very difficult year and there have been many setbacks, but come on, this is getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 'Actions Speak Louder Than Word' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avey.4201 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 servers may as well be offline when devs leave the game unplayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knite.1542 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 They didn't say they would do it, they just said "Ideally it will be closer." And all of us that have been around long enough should have known that wasn't gonna happen.Additionally, even if they did do more balance patches, they would probably be low quality as well.It is time to move on to the acceptance phase mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Mode.3780 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 sigh new games r coming out with high hopes and promises even WoW looks more tempting to go back at this point and tht is saying how poor the state of pvp/wvw is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Call Me Tim.2319 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 sigh... balance patches are never that anyway. It’s a little nerf here, a little buff there. Whatever they think it is that the loudest people here want. Then on to the next set of complaints for the next “balance” patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Can't wait to play my berserkker core scepter/dagger ele after balance patch. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristingr.5034 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Don't worry. We have Cyberpunk to look forward to in less than 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollbirtan.2915 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 This "promise" is in the same corner, next to alliances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum.6983 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 I wish they kept to this. It didn't even have to be big patches like they said but even if just to take care of problematic stuff and test buff underused things in small but frequent patches. Playing the same Meta for months on end is boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valelutra.9128 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Maybe I’m misremembering but weren’t there frequent balance patches in GW1? Like frequent patches to fix things and bigger patches every couple smaller patches to adjust the meta as a whole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 It has been mentioned that it'll ideally be every 4-6 weeks between changes for the sake of changes.It should be obvious that the ideal situation hasn't occurred and likely never will.They didn't guarantee anything.They probably knew they wouldn't be able to get anywhere close to that time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpsssss.7530 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Keep in mind ESO has something similar to WvW... and it keeps frames reasonable with a good but dated LAPTOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwaihir.1745 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Pretty sure balance is all but done for this game. They don't have enough people to do anything but work on the next pve update. They don't know their systems enough to balance them, and even if they did they fired everyone who knew how to manage the pve-pvp-wvw splits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiwk.2760 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 they dont really care for the competitive modes.. lets face it? who even play pvp? mostly bots.. and they dont complain about balance !the ones who still play.. use hacks.. so they also dont complain about balance. .they use hacks to bypass the balance!if they cared even alittle bit.. they would;ve done something about the bots and hacking..for got sake even wvw is being filled with hacks.. now days.. why? because its 0 risk..people flying in wvw and teleporting..balance? meh Anet dont know what is balance.. and they dont bother to learn because as said.. they just dont care about competitive modes..for them its only pve and gemstore.. wvw/pvp can die for them.. i start to consider goin on another game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikharzeeh.8016 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 their balancings are crap anyways, u cannot balance some meta u have no clue of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valelutra.9128 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I think there was also a power struggle between competitive balance and QA/systems team where the competitive balance team was told to shove it and stop requesting changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 @"noiwk.2760" said:they dont really care for the competitive modes.. lets face it? who even play pvp? mostly bots.. and they dont complain about balance !the ones who still play.. use hacks.. so they also dont complain about balance. .they use hacks to bypass the balance!if they cared even alittle bit.. they would;ve done something about the bots and hacking..for got sake even wvw is being filled with hacks.. now days.. why? because its 0 risk..people flying in wvw and teleporting..balance? meh Anet dont know what is balance.. and they dont bother to learn because as said.. they just dont care about competitive modes..for them its only pve and gemstore.. wvw/pvp can die for them.. i start to consider goin on another game.. 10/10--Emotional-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilla.4120 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Does @Cal Cohen.2358 still work for ArenaNet or was he one of the unfortunate people that received a permanent unpaid vacation?I know they let a lot of people go, but I can't remember if his name was on the list. :neutral: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 @Mighty Cole.7849 said:Does @Cal Cohen.2358 still work for ArenaNet or was he one of the unfortunate people that received a permanent unpaid vacation?I know they let a lot of people go, but I can't remember if his name was on the list. :neutral: pretty sure he still works there, thats what his linked in says. i think he got reassigned within anet or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neukku.5713 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Maybe devs think that game is balanced and changes arent needed. ":D" which is in fact partly true but ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilla.4120 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Here is another quote that has me dumbfounded.@"Cal Cohen.2358" said on January 31, 2020:The goal here is to have better flexibility to fix problems in a timely manner.The February 25, 2020 patch placed extremely long cooldowns on traits that were over performing as a means to sway people away from using them until they could be fixed properly. I'm not advocating for the validity of those traits nor am I saying that the increased cooldowns were wrong. I do, however, feel like 9+ months of waiting for a fix doesn't falls in to the "timely manner" category. But then again, maybe I'm just being impatient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylden Ar.3724 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 For people that are surprised by the lack of 4 to 6 week balance patches, I just want to remind you it's going on 3 years of Alliances when!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick.8967 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 You misread it. When they said 4-6 weeks, they meant 'within 4-6 weeks of this date next year'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltekka.2375 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 WOOHOO BALANCE HIT, BOIZ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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