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  • Sigmoid.7082Sigmoid.7082 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2021

    @Smoosh.2718 said:

    @Sigmoid.7082 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:

    @Mungo Zen.9364 said:

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    Companies like Square Enix can release class info 2 years before the actual expansion drop, Anet instead can release a teaser...of a teaser and after one year no more info. What about?

    1)Concept art of new elites? - They are already set in stone now, at the very least you can indicate what each new elite will focus..we don't even need gameplay video

    2)Hint for new features....alliances? legendary armor?

    3)Location of the new expansion like possible locations?

    4)Monsterpedia?

    After one whole year not even a single new info....

    How do you know the elites are set in stone? I believe this game has had major profession overhauls mere months before a release. I know it has happened in other MMO’s.

    Release of concept art is enough to get people pumped! Even if its subject to change, its content for players to hype up about.

    This community doesn't do "subject to change".

    I suppose you mean the Devs dont when they changed the traits to 300s... since that actually was 'subject to change'.

    Not really...but in all reality its likely still being worked on, just being worked into the current design of new e-specs so they don't fall into the same hole again and have to essentially disable traits. If you have limited resources you try to avoid technical debt not haphazardly accrue it. Same as with each expansion we have had so far I expect there to be a fairly large pre-balance patch that changes things in preparation.

    When you say 'This community' you do not speak for all of us. I for one welcome any change that is made that may or may not change the way you play or prepare for an expansion. Anets been rather dry on information about this expansion for a very long time.

    No I don't speak for the whole community but by and large we're very unforgiving and demanding, as most consumers tend to be. At times rightfully so. More than once this community has fallen victim to "be careful what you wish for". I mean the current state of threads like this I feel is a case in point.

  • People saying Anet will make reveals when they got a ready product...

    ... But not considering that people are dissapointed in this silence from the company, because even when that reveal happens, it is possible that we will not receive said product as intended?

    Basically, the sooner they say some stuff, ideally getting an opinion from the community to make changes before final release, the more issues may be solved.

    But since this ain't happening, the probability of receiving a product with issues is high. At this point, I personally don't care, but people should also not be negative towards those who want to see what they invest their time and money in.

    Only reason the announcement was made early was because IBS started doing bad, covid appeared, sales obviously dropped since economies collapsed and Anet had to push that red emergency button to keep the few customers it has. The promise of an expansion.

  • Sigmoid.7082Sigmoid.7082 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Grand Marshal.4098 said:
    Basically, the sooner they say some stuff, ideally getting an opinion from the community to make changes before final release, the more issues may be solved.
    But since this ain't happening, the probability of receiving a product with issues is high.

    Of course, because everyone's opinion is different. Something someone's sees as an issue could be a complete non-issue to someone else, even a benefit. Its literally impossible to please everyone.

  • Personally, more info would do very little for me at this stage. I know content can get stale and it's great to have something to look forward to, but the only thing we really need to know is that there is an expansion looming for us to enjoy. If anything, the only info I'd like is a prospective time period that the expansion plans to drop during (Q3 of 2021 or w/e). Obviously that can change if issues arise, but it gives you an idea of how long you'll be waiting to enjoy the content.

  • huluobo.7036huluobo.7036 Member ✭✭✭

    I guess the next extension will be Unreal Engine 4 Guild Wars 2

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2021

    @woops.1268 said:
    A little friendly competition will only benefit players, 2021, keep an open mind for options, exciting...

    2000: World of Warcraft Devs leaves Blizzard to form Triforge (tribute to classic SNES game Zelda)
    2002: NCsoft acquires Triforge (Arenanet)
    2005: GW1 releases by Arenanet
    WoW fans: Boo!
    GW1 fans: Yay! Innovative! WoW killer!

    2006: GW1 Factions expansion releases
    2006: GW1 Nightfall expansion releases
    2007: GW1 Eye of the north expansion releases
    2007: GW2 announced
    GW1 fans: take your time! Don't rush!
    2012: GW2 Releases
    2015: GW2 Expansion Heart of Thorns
    GW1 fans: Mechanics update? Alliances? Cantha?
    GW2 fans: What's Cantha?

    2017: GW2 Expansion Path of Fire
    GW1 fans: Mechanics update? Alliances? Cantha?
    GW2 fans: Boo! No GW1!

    2018/2019: Arenanet Layoffs
    GW1 fans: Worried...Alliances? Cantha?
    GW2 fans: Boo! No! No GW1!

    2019: GW2 former GW1/GW2 Devs leaves for Relentless studios
    2019: Amazon cancels Crucible by Relentless studios
    GW1 fans: ...
    GW2 fans: Boo! Told ya!

    2019: New World Announced (yes steam launch)
    2020: GW2 End of Dragons Announced (no steam launch)
    2020: Crucible team (former GW1/GW2 Devs) merged into New World team
    GW1 fans: Yay! Innovative! Worried...Cantha?
    GW2 fans: Boo! No GW1!
    NW fans: take your time! Don't rush!

    2021: ...

    *Pattern forming here? Competition? More option for players? And oddly enough...

    2019-2020:

    GW1/GW2 Fans: Alliances? Balanced PvP endgame?
    NW: 50 vs 50 War
    GW1/GW2 Fans: PvE?
    NW: Invasion (defend against hordes)
    GW1/GW2 Fans: Siege style Fort Aspenwood/Jade Quarry like in GW1? (3 teams of 4 per side)
    NW: here you go, 20 vs 20 Outpost rush (4 teams of 5 per side)
    GW1/GW2 Fans: Dungeons/raids?
    NW: Oh look...Expeditions
    GW1/GW2 Fans: Crafting? Cantha? Factions?
    NW: Hold my beer...

    You've been heavily drinking the NW kool-aid my friend. I love your predictions for a game which has not even released yet and not even survived the release issues many MMORPGs face once they actually do release. All backed up by mediocre betas and multiple delays. Man, to be this young and naive again and get hyped for the next god MMO.

    Here is my prediction for NW: it's going to get delayed again. Basis? Their track record of delaying the launch and probably having to put at least 1 more open beta in IF they want to ship a decent product (an actual beta which they can work off of, not some free advertisement fake beta).

  • @Shadowmoon.7986 said:
    These are tactic to try to keep the players busy long enough to buy them enough time to get enough of the expac presentable.

    They seem to be trying to hedge theirs bets with the slow release schedule and massive weapon grinds. I'm afraid it looks like its not working because thats assuming us, the players, WANT to grind weapon skins in the first place. Going through all this trouble for a glacial or fire-infused weapon is a bit lost on me.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Mungo Zen.9364 said:
    I wish you could bottle marketing classes into a quick paragraph.

    One of the simplest ways of making a sale is to hype the item and then immediately put it into a persons hand. The hype isn't for players who are already going to buy the expansion, it's for the players who are on the fence or have never heard of the game.

    This isn't like a subscription service where you are trying to maintain a customer base every month. Subscription games need a reason to keep hyping the game to avoid losing players. This expansion will be a one time purchase, and teasing it aggressively would potentially waste the hype they are building if there is no product forthcoming.

    Why would a company hype the product with no way to capitalize on that marketing? I would anticipate that when they start announcing the expansion features there will also be a way to pre-order it with a launch date within a few months.

    This pretty much answers it in full

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • Grand Marshal.4098Grand Marshal.4098 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2021

    @Sigmoid.7082 said:

    @Grand Marshal.4098 said:
    Basically, the sooner they say some stuff, ideally getting an opinion from the community to make changes before final release, the more issues may be solved.
    But since this ain't happening, the probability of receiving a product with issues is high.

    Of course, because everyone's opinion is different. Something someone's sees as an issue could be a complete non-issue to someone else, even a benefit. Its literally impossible to please everyone.

    Not talking about story bits or what can only appeal to the eye, rather, mechanics and how the game functions. To prevent more bugs from apppearing in this old engine, player testing should be a thing. Yes, opinions differ, but trying to release a complete expansion is objectively the goal. For what it's worth, even when EoD gets release, we will probably be given the excuse of yet another time crunch which forced poor implementation of new features.

    You don't have to please everyone. But that's not an excuse for not going after "perfection". I really hope EoD is gonna be good in all aspects, don't get me wrong.

  • LetoII.3782LetoII.3782 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Cynder.2509 said:
    I get it, most MMOs release an expansion every year but that's because these games are mantained by far bigger companies. Take for example, as mentioned before, Square Enix or Blizzard (or even Zenimax/Bethesda). All of these are far bigger and richer companies/developers than ArenaNet. The studio responsible for GW2 is actually very small compared to these giants.

    Arenanet is a wholly owned subsidiary of NCsoft, which is the Blizzard of Korea.
    Not a small indie dev

    [HUNT] the predatory instinct

  • Luthan.5236Luthan.5236 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I don't think they intend for everyone to be able to complete all grindy collections / skin sets before the next expansion gets released. Though they probably serve as a nice reaseon for older players to still play that content once the later stuff (expansion) gets released. Personally I like this setup - where you can finish most of the stuff in a reasonable amount of time. (Atm I'm playing old content ... season 4. And I use 1-2 weeks per chapter and do most of the stuff there ... except some weapon skin sets that take a bit grind of the materials.)

    Better than having all the skins available prettty easy but then with other hardcore achievements. (Would scare away a lot of players if the majority of story achievements were pretty hard.)

    Maybe they will time the expansion release around the anniversary date. To get a lof of players to buy it at full price + also selling gems for the discounted store stuff. (Though this might technically also lead to less sales if people do not have that much money at once. So either a bit earlier or a bit later. + there are other festivals as "content" and a lof of them in summer I think. Dragon Bash and Festival of the Four Winds.)

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    1)Concept art of new elites?

    we already know about new warrior elite spec and that is come in nearest icebrood saga patch

    2)Hint for new features....alliances? legendary armory?

    alliances I am sure useless, but legendary armory get anonce and will be soon. This or next year.

    3)Location of the new expansion like possible locations?

    how it can help to you?

    4)Monsterpedia?

    main part on community for that. What do you do for that yourself?

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Oxstar.7643 said:
    Final Fantasy is a near and dear household name in the industry

    people who like ff - play ff. Same with other projects. I don'see any reason look how hypw or not hype others. Sometimes not hype is very big hype.

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2021

    now we have drm, so we need at fisrt close current azure and grimson collections, this is 216510 Prismaticite Crystal
    this is 16000 Prismaticite Crystals fro last to collections .. also 16
    2*2 to buy recipe
    total sum 1664 Prismaticite Crystals! WE have content for long time. And say, where is EoD, till not done this collecton is wrong way

    Also don't forget Volcanic Stormcaller Armaments Collector - current price 2553 gold.
    So time to play and get fun :+1:

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • @lare.5129 said:

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    1)Concept art of new elites?

    we already know about new warrior elite spec and that is come in nearest icebrood saga patch

    2)Hint for new features....alliances? legendary armory?

    alliances I am sure useless, but legendary armory get anonce and will be soon. This or next year.

    3)Location of the new expansion like possible locations?

    how it can help to you?

    4)Monsterpedia?

    main part on community for that. What do you do for that yourself?

    Wait what ? New warrior elite spec ? Where ?

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ledha.9640 said:
    Wait what ? New warrior elite spec ? Where ?

    if you don't want read news and watch video - no one guilty for that. More easy say "no one give us info"

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ledha.9640 said:

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    1)Concept art of new elites?

    we already know about new warrior elite spec and that is come in nearest icebrood saga patch

    2)Hint for new features....alliances? legendary armory?

    alliances I am sure useless, but legendary armory get anonce and will be soon. This or next year.

    3)Location of the new expansion like possible locations?

    how it can help to you?

    4)Monsterpedia?

    main part on community for that. What do you do for that yourself?

    Wait what ? New warrior elite spec ? Where ?

    No elite specs have been announced.

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    No elite specs have been announced.

    yes, it is true. Also true that it already discussed and some abilities is know. Watch video. It more easy explain.

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    No elite specs have been announced.

    yes, it is true. Also true that it already discussed and some abilities is know. Watch video. It more easy explain.

    “Video”
    What “video”?

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Wait the video above done by a streamer and not Anet?

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    Wait the video above done by a streamer and not Anet?

    ofc streamer. I don't see any reason for Anet hype on every change to produce hype.
    Do we have patch announce from February 15 where we get Bonus event, and many other stuff ? No ? Why? because this is normal way.

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    Wait the video above done by a streamer and not Anet?

    ofc streamer. I don't see any reason for Anet hype on every change to produce hype.
    Do we have patch announce from February 15 where we get Bonus event, and many other stuff ? No ? Why? because this is normal way.

    Content doesn’t get announced by streamers - that is not normal lol

    The feb 16th bonus event was announced by Anet on their release page last month

    We will get elite spec info direct from Anet when the time is ready. Like we always do. Including the warrior one ;)

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    Content doesn’t get announced by streamers - that is not normal lol

    this is only your's as person opinion. I am, as person, have another point of view.

    The feb 16th bonus event was announced by Anet on their release page last month

    last month was another bonus event

    We will get elite spec info direct from Anet when the time is ready. Like we always do. Including the warrior one ;)

    for that info you need keep look that informed people say

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2021

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    Content doesn’t get announced by streamers - that is not normal lol

    this is only your's as person opinion. I am, as person, have another point of view.

    Not an opinion. Anet will not announce major expansion features solely through a random twitch or youtube streamer. That's just how it is. There is a slim chance a major gaming magazine might get an exclusive scoop, but that will be in conjunction with an official announcement anyway

    The feb 16th bonus event was announced by Anet on their release page last month

    last month was another bonus event

    They also announced the the latest one on their release page. It's still up there for you to read.
    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/january-19-2021/ scroll to the dwarves bit and in there it mentions the next one starting on the 16th and hints at it being Exalted and being able to access the new weapons

    We will get elite spec info direct from Anet when the time is ready. Like we always do. Including the warrior one ;)

    for that info you need keep look that informed people say

    I can't really understand what you are saying here, but as I said, Anet will announce the elite specs when ready. Possibly in the same format they did with regular blogs on the release page prior to HoT and prior to PoF. No one is going to look to a streamer for info because that is not how things work.

    Anyway, regardless of this bizarre back and forth, the warrior espec has not been announced

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    Not an opinion. Anet will not announce major expansion features solely through a random twitch or youtube streamer.

    that not "random" streamer

    I can't really understand what you are saying here, but as I said, Anet will announce the elite specs when ready.

    yes, Anet will do it.

    Possibly in the same format they did with regular blogs on the release page prior to HoT and prior to PoF.

    no one knwo and this is part of fun

    Anyway, regardless of this bizarre back and forth, the warrior espec has not been announced

    from Anet ? yes, not announced. We talk about global announce, from our legend know people.

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    Not an opinion. Anet will not announce major expansion features solely through a random twitch or youtube streamer.

    that not "random" streamer

    By "random streamer" I believe Randulf meant "someone not working for Anet"

    I am a very casual player.
    Very.
    Casual.

  • Oxstar.7643Oxstar.7643 Member ✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Oxstar.7643 said:
    Final Fantasy is a near and dear household name in the industry

    people who like ff - play ff. Same with other projects. I don'see any reason look how hypw or not hype others. Sometimes not hype is very big hype.

    Everything has a critical mass, and sometimes that make or break decisions.

  • Smoosh.2718Smoosh.2718 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ledha.9640 said:

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    1)Concept art of new elites?

    we already know about new warrior elite spec and that is come in nearest icebrood saga patch

    2)Hint for new features....alliances? legendary armory?

    alliances I am sure useless, but legendary armory get anonce and will be soon. This or next year.

    3)Location of the new expansion like possible locations?

    how it can help to you?

    4)Monsterpedia?

    main part on community for that. What do you do for that yourself?

    Wait what ? New warrior elite spec ? Where ?

    I thought it was rather obvious myself as well to be fair.

    In the Newer maps you'll notice Norn and Charr in heavy armour and using two pistols ( the charr can also be seen providing might to allies).

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @Cynder.2509 said:
    I get it, most MMOs release an expansion every year but that's because these games are mantained by far bigger companies. Take for example, as mentioned before, Square Enix or Blizzard (or even Zenimax/Bethesda). All of these are far bigger and richer companies/developers than ArenaNet. The studio responsible for GW2 is actually very small compared to these giants.

    Arenanet is a wholly owned subsidiary of NCsoft, which is the Blizzard of Korea.
    Not a small indie dev

    True, but ANet self publishes.

  • @Ashen.2907 said:

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @Cynder.2509 said:
    I get it, most MMOs release an expansion every year but that's because these games are mantained by far bigger companies. Take for example, as mentioned before, Square Enix or Blizzard (or even Zenimax/Bethesda). All of these are far bigger and richer companies/developers than ArenaNet. The studio responsible for GW2 is actually very small compared to these giants.

    Arenanet is a wholly owned subsidiary of NCsoft, which is the Blizzard of Korea.
    Not a small indie dev

    True, but ANet self publishes.

    ArenaNet was it's own publisher for a couple of years; NCSoft (West) resumed that position two or more years ago.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    Not an opinion. Anet will not announce major expansion features solely through a random twitch or youtube streamer.

    that not "random" streamer

    I can't really understand what you are saying here, but as I said, Anet will announce the elite specs when ready.

    yes, Anet will do it.

    Possibly in the same format they did with regular blogs on the release page prior to HoT and prior to PoF.

    no one knwo and this is part of fun

    Anyway, regardless of this bizarre back and forth, the warrior espec has not been announced

    from Anet ? yes, not announced. We talk about global announce, from our legend know people.

    So by this logic Necromancer will get shield since npc necro in ibs use it.
    And some big flashy raven magic to boot.

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @Cynder.2509 said:
    I get it, most MMOs release an expansion every year but that's because these games are mantained by far bigger companies. Take for example, as mentioned before, Square Enix or Blizzard (or even Zenimax/Bethesda). All of these are far bigger and richer companies/developers than ArenaNet. The studio responsible for GW2 is actually very small compared to these giants.

    Arenanet is a wholly owned subsidiary of NCsoft, which is the Blizzard of Korea.
    Not a small indie dev

    True, but ANet self publishes.

    ArenaNet was it's own publisher for a couple of years; NCSoft (West) resumed that position two or more years ago.

    Thanks, I missed that.

  • Eloc Freidon.5692Eloc Freidon.5692 Member ✭✭✭✭

    NEVER expect anything to be shown officially earlier than the final episode of Icebrood Saga dropping. This is how Anet always is. It isn't FF14. If Anet gets tens of millions of reoccurring players monthly we can discuss otherwise.

    So far, Icebrood Saga weapon collections cost 3845 Gold to craft!
    *Does not include Volcanic Stormcaller set, Runic Armor, or Icebrood Infusion.

  • Zaraki.5784Zaraki.5784 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 20, 2021

    @Mungo Zen.9364 said:

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    Companies like Square Enix can release class info 2 years before the actual expansion drop, Anet instead can release a teaser...of a teaser and after one year no more info. What about?

    1)Concept art of new elites? - They are already set in stone now, at the very least you can indicate what each new elite will focus..we don't even need gameplay video

    2)Hint for new features....alliances? legendary armor?

    3)Location of the new expansion like possible locations?

    4)Monsterpedia?

    After one whole year not even a single new info....

    How do you know the elites are set in stone? I believe this game has had major profession overhauls mere months before a release. I know it has happened in other MMO’s.

    It was stated by Anet, new Elites will be part of EoD, it's on wiki and there's a link proof.

    "Sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never be able to injure you!"
    The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy

  • It is not Arenanet's style to hype and announce things so far ahead of time. They prefer to have it ready when it is ready and start hyping when they know they can deliver. Specially with PoF this was the case. The living world season ended with a teaser for an announcement just one or twee weeks later. Then the expansion was released just less then two months later.

    The real question is why they announced EoD a year ago. The answer is that after the lay offs and reforming the company, initially the statement was that there was no plan on an expansion. After the dust settled and the player base roared, this was changed. To prevent any confusion as the statement was that there would be no expansion they made an announcement.

  • Inculpatus cedo.9234Inculpatus cedo.9234 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 20, 2021

    @Zaraki.5784 said:

    @Mungo Zen.9364 said:

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    Companies like Square Enix can release class info 2 years before the actual expansion drop, Anet instead can release a teaser...of a teaser and after one year no more info. What about?

    1)Concept art of new elites? - They are already set in stone now, at the very least you can indicate what each new elite will focus..we don't even need gameplay video

    2)Hint for new features....alliances? legendary armor?

    3)Location of the new expansion like possible locations?

    4)Monsterpedia?

    After one whole year not even a single new info....

    How do you know the elites are set in stone? I believe this game has had major profession overhauls mere months before a release. I know it has happened in other MMO’s.

    It was stated by Anet, new Elites will be part of EoD, it's on wiki and there's a link proof.

    Interesting, and also pretty much expected.
    Though, not really addressing the comment about how the upcoming Elite Specialization are 'set in stone'. Previous Elite Specializations were changed after being announced, but before release.

  • The natives are growing restless

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I actually.. kind of hate.. early drops
    "Hey, we're working on this amazing thing you'll see in 2 years".
    What am i supposed to do with that knowledge? Sitting there waiting for 2 years...
    Being patient is one thing, but waiting several years for a game or movie is just skritt.
    Just announce the stuff like 2-3 months in advance. No need to keep your fanbase in oblivion

    To defeat the dragons, see the good in them.
    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
    ..jormag? Who's that?

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zaraki.5784 said:

    @Mungo Zen.9364 said:

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    Companies like Square Enix can release class info 2 years before the actual expansion drop, Anet instead can release a teaser...of a teaser and after one year no more info. What about?

    1)Concept art of new elites? - They are already set in stone now, at the very least you can indicate what each new elite will focus..we don't even need gameplay video

    2)Hint for new features....alliances? legendary armor?

    3)Location of the new expansion like possible locations?

    4)Monsterpedia?

    After one whole year not even a single new info....

    How do you know the elites are set in stone? I believe this game has had major profession overhauls mere months before a release. I know it has happened in other MMO’s.

    It was stated by Anet, new Elites will be part of EoD, it's on wiki and there's a link proof.

    It's confirmed that there will be new elite specializations.
    But it's not "set in stone" what they will be like, what weapons they will get, which type of utility skills they receive or which roles they aim to fill.

  • I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I like not knowing until soon before release. That way I don't have to wait anxiously for a long time

  • hugo.4705hugo.4705 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Lastly some days ago, I watched nintendo direct, and splatoon 3 trailer (note I could have said star wars, lord of the ring..) hyped me more than gw2 ever did. I am not satisfied nor conforted by the phone silence of this company. No news? No name of specs? Not their icons at least? Some things to theorize and debate about?

    I totally agree that speaking about maps wouldn't bring a single thing, cause we already know it's cantha. But, is it hard to release some more expansion areas screenshots of places or npc?

    I want some infos like OP. See the icebrood saga trailer, it shows you where you are aiming. What EoD one shows apart useless speechs and zoom on chinese architectures? A trailer, worse than any LS trailer. The last chapters are overwhelming and disapointing nothing good out of them apart creating another elitist content and lfg discrimination. The only "good" thing is that the factions events ask you to do events in core / other expacs maps. This isn't dead but still, a current lethargic state. Sure you can do things in core other xpac maps but the last story releases have nothing to be excited about.
    And that's the issue.

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  • I feel your pain OP. I was just thinking about this the other day myself. ANet is doing a terrible job of generating hype for EoD. Endwalker is dropping later this fall for FF14 and GW2 hasn't even let us see concept art. They used to be so much better with community engagement.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Konrad Curze.5130 said:
    I mean, it's 11 months later. If the specs are still completely in flux and nothing is yet decided, it speaks volumes about the horrifying nightmare that is GW2 development right now

    I assume that at the time of the announcement, they literally had nothing but the concept art of the bell.
    And when the trailer hit in August, I doubt they really had anything that'd be even remotely ready to consider showing.

    I doubt they have made substantial progress by now, partially also due to the pandemic.
    Maybe they haven't even decided on some of the elite specializations yet.

    They clearly made the announcement without much, if anything, to back it up.
    They simply made it to show the players that there is some kind of future for the game.

  • Astyrah.4015Astyrah.4015 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 21, 2021

    @Raizel.1839 said:

    @Konrad Curze.5130 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Zaraki.5784 said:

    @Mungo Zen.9364 said:

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    Companies like Square Enix can release class info 2 years before the actual expansion drop, Anet instead can release a teaser...of a teaser and after one year no more info. What about?

    1)Concept art of new elites? - They are already set in stone now, at the very least you can indicate what each new elite will focus..we don't even need gameplay video

    2)Hint for new features....alliances? legendary armor?

    3)Location of the new expansion like possible locations?

    4)Monsterpedia?

    After one whole year not even a single new info....

    How do you know the elites are set in stone? I believe this game has had major profession overhauls mere months before a release. I know it has happened in other MMO’s.

    It was stated by Anet, new Elites will be part of EoD, it's on wiki and there's a link proof.

    It's confirmed that there will be new elite specializations.
    But it's not "set in stone" what they will be like, what weapons they will get, which type of utility skills they receive or which roles they aim to fill.

    I mean, it's 11 months later. If the specs are still completely in flux and nothing is yet decided, it speaks volumes about the horrifying nightmare that is GW2 development right now

    Then again if that was the case it'd greatly surprise me from any other studio BUT Anet

    that level of sheer managerial ineptitude is what I've come to expect as the default here

    I'm still questioning why we stick with it instead of leaving for good, GW2 have really something special to be able to keep people despite the current management, what a shame its current state...

    can't speak for others but for me it's because no other currently running MMORPG has a business model as "fair" as GW2's while offering nice combat and no gear treadmill (horizontal progression) and the game doesnt force me to do certain content (with the exception of legendaries but even then these are optional if you wanna be BiS, ascended would do)

    that said, ArenaNet could improve on doing more marketing of the game (and it's upcoming expansion, like giving us more info and teasers) and player communication at the very least... in other games, devs and their player communities communicate closely regarding feedback when it comes to game features and balancing game systems/mechanics -- wish that were the case with GW2 and ArenaNet

    that said the game is still great just that it could do/be more than what it is

  • aspirine.6852aspirine.6852 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Some shots would be nice.. Why not show anything at all?

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Raizel.1839 said:
    I'm still questioning why we stick with it instead of leaving for good, GW2 have really something special to be able to keep people despite the current management, what a shame its current state...

    Rather than being a matter of GW2 having something special to keep players in, it's a matter of what it lacks:
    It's simply the best MMO without a subscription fee.