June 9 – June 23 World Restructuring Beta

[RedNuii.5680]

5 hours ago, Voraxen.2035 said:

I can't wait until sPVP gets years of developer time and infrastructure updates in order to figure out it's match making. Oh wait, it's just the one game mode that gets any update at all? 5 years of nothing in sPVP what so ever? That's cool. Thanks Anet.

What updates are you talking about? The mode is finished. It's PvP, balance patches and elite specs are your content. League of legends doesn't add anything else than balance and characters to their game. They don't even add maps. What else do you want??

[RedNuii.5680]

4 hours ago, omica.6548 said:

Are we going to get some specifics as to what is in this BETA test?  The link is to the article published 2 years ago and is very vague. What tools will the leaders of the Alliances have to manage the groups.

 

 

9 hours ago, Rubi Bayer.8493 said:

We’ll be back on June 6 with additional information

Observe

[alyxhade.9573]

11 hours ago, Igure.2063 said:

make specter playable at zerging for god sake, ty, love u all

I always thought that was supposed to be one of it's selling points, to focus on keeping your commander alive above all else, could swear it was part of it's marketing 

[Bristingr.5034]

6 hours ago, alyssa.7458 said:

I always thought that was supposed to be one of it's selling points, to focus on keeping your commander alive above all else, could swear it was part of it's marketing 

But I'm more powerful when in downstate!

[Tequila.7456]

Would be possible to get some clarification for this beta alliance?

Will we have to be again in 1 mutual guild, in order for multiple guilds to play together?

Isn't the idea of an "alliance" system is to have guild+guild+guild+filler pugs = alliance (x amount of people)

[Xenesis.6389]

3 minutes ago, Awesome QWOP Guy.6921 said:

Would be possible to get some clarification for this beta alliance?

Will we have to be again in 1 mutual guild, in order for multiple guilds to play together?

Isn't the idea of an "alliance" system is to have guild+guild+guild+filler pugs = alliance (x amount of people)

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We’ll be back on June 6 with additional information

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[Draygo.9473]

2 hours ago, Awesome QWOP Guy.6921 said:

Would be possible to get some clarification for this beta alliance?

Will we have to be again in 1 mutual guild, in order for multiple guilds to play together?

Isn't the idea of an "alliance" system is to have guild+guild+guild+filler pugs = alliance (x amount of people)

I believe they stated before that this test will not include alliances, so you will need to be in 1 mutual guild for this test.

The idea is to test the matchmaking system with the new system, hence the 2 week test. 

[Dawdler.8521]

1 hour ago, Draygo.9473 said:

I believe they stated before that this test will not include alliances, so you will need to be in 1 mutual guild for this test.

The idea is to test the matchmaking system with the new system, hence the 2 week test. 

Just to further make that point, this was the spring studio update:

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We’re targeting early to mid-summer to run the first World Restructuring beta with alliances. Functionality will be straightforward, but it should give guilds and alliances everything they need to manage their communities: creating alliances, inviting guilds, kicking guilds, and leaving. All players that have selected a battle guild in an alliance will be placed on a team together after the World Restructuring event.

Prior to that, we plan to run one more World Restructuring test without alliances so we can test recent fixes to matchmaking, team assignments, queues, and some backend work we’ve done to support the alliances feature. This will be our first multiweek World Restructuring beta test, meaning that we’ll also be able to verify that teams are properly moving into different matchups and tiers using the one-up, one-down system. We’ll follow up with a date for this test once it’s been confirmed.

We're still at the later part, because Anet didnt specify which part of the world this early to mid-summer was. Australia, presumably.

[Arianth Moonlight.6453]

if you put me on Moogooloo, I'm going to scream so hard your great grandchildren will be born deaf =:<

[TheIceman.1039]

5 hours ago, Arianth Moonlight.6453 said:

if you put me on Moogooloo, I'm going to scream so hard your great grandchildren will be born deaf =:<

I hope they add me on Skrittsburgh 😁

[TheGrimm.5624]

We do need to test the +1/-1 system with the random sorts for a multi-week test, that said I question the extra rewards as we do. On one hand, do the dime spend the time, I appreciate the thought, on another I appreciate the extra players for a test, on last how many are out just for the extra which adds factors in were the relinks successful or just loot bait. Go round and round. Agree testing is needed though so +1 from that.

[Ashen.2907]

On 5/31/2023 at 7:43 AM, Bristingr.5034 said:

But I'm more powerful when in downstate!

If you downstate me, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

[Pong.6572]

I love the part of  "some backend work".
A small... but not... fudge it.
ANET:
Update client a tiny bit, behaviour of log in-server and/or overall network performance against so called ThereCanOnlyBeONeLagIn server - aka LagInServer
Use more frigging BDC's and add at least another PDC, in EU + NA + Australia-part of world
You listened last time - I do not want to have to contact Your ISP again

Meanwhile, for players, during almost all WvW resets
A player/account might have friends/guilds/followers/blocked that will load and show for player. - Yes. It does. Sometimes. After 10-60 minutes. Because all players are making that call to one single computer - the LaginServer.
Read line 5 for ANET solution
(NO! THIS DO NOT RESOLVE ISSUE! WARNING! DO NOT DO THIS! besides delete all contacts-/guilds/blocked/friends... that heee... lp.. fudge. NOT - So. NO!)

As Server/Community Guild Leader - I can not wait to read up on - INGAME, on my INGAME screen - and/or a e-mail, at least 2 weeks ahead of rest, with current planned changes for next test.
What this next test gives all of us - to try out/test/report bugs/improve - we should all positivly respond back to (IMO ofc negative feedback is welcome aswell, as it is feedback)

[babana.7521]

@Rubi Bayer.8493 First of all thank you for all your hard work, as usual. 

Secondly, from the link you provided, what does this mean? programmer art and what is the final art? new maps?? 

The second trade-off is that the frontend of the system will be a little rough—using “programmer art,” as we call it. We’re going to hold off on final art and user experience polish until we’ve locked down the design of the feature. In other words, we’re going to focus on making sure the system solves the problem before we make it look nice. 

[Gorem.8104]

Coming up to the 2 year Anniversary of my sig, detailing us being told in 2021 July the 2nd that Alliances would happen that year. 

I wonder if this is the final beta

[disForm.2837]

23 hours ago, babana.7521 said:

@Rubi Bayer.8493 First of all thank you for all your hard work, as usual. 

Secondly, from the link you provided, what does this mean? programmer art and what is the final art? new maps?? 

The second trade-off is that the frontend of the system will be a little rough—using “programmer art,” as we call it. We’re going to hold off on final art and user experience polish until we’ve locked down the design of the feature. In other words, we’re going to focus on making sure the system solves the problem before we make it look nice. 

Not all developers are proficient creating User Interface (UI, aka buttons, styles, font, colors, etc), that's usually a combination of UI specialists plus designers. 

 

They are going to release a less polished interface because they expect this UI to change significantly.  "Programmers art" is just jargon for UI made by regular developers instead of the specialists.  It won't look as good, but that allows them to modify it really quick, since design is not a blocker. 

 

Once the main features are a bit more stable, they are going to work on the "professional UI", similar to the rest of the game.

[Baldrick.8967]

First thing I checked was whether this was posted on April 1st..could it be that finally after so many years wvw will be slightly revamped.

Next you will be telling me they will bring in a new map before 2027!

[glyph.6120]

Has anyone else been experiencing the same bug as me where they're unable to set a WvW guild, either through the guild panel or the "WvW Restructuring - BETA" tab on the WvW panel? Clicking on "Set as WvW guild" in the guild panel does nothing (my guild remains unselected), and selecting my guild in the WvW beta panel also doesn't register (the guild automatically unchecks itself when I tab away or close the WvW panel).

Strangely, I'd had my wvw guild selected for a long time, and my selection had carried over between betas. However, when they opened up guild selection for the upcoming beta this week suddenly my wvw guild got unselected, and now I can't pick any wvw guilds.

[orthoptera.8142]

On 6/2/2023 at 9:33 PM, glyph.6120 said:

Has anyone else been experiencing the same bug as me where they're unable to set a WvW guild, either through the guild panel or the "WvW Restructuring - BETA" tab on the WvW panel? Clicking on "Set as WvW guild" in the guild panel does nothing (my guild remains unselected), and selecting my guild in the WvW beta panel also doesn't register (the guild automatically unchecks itself when I tab away or close the WvW panel).

Strangely, I'd had my wvw guild selected for a long time, and my selection had carried over between betas. However, when they opened up guild selection for the upcoming beta this week suddenly my wvw guild got unselected, and now I can't pick any wvw guilds.

I had that happen yesterday on one account, others were fine.  Issue cleared after a restart.

[hugeboss.5432]

Thanks for lots of new info Anet :D

[KDR Requirements?] (just a few suggestions to the system)
I suggested a while back, the idea of more requirements to enter certain tiers. For example, KDR tier requirements to the 1up-1down system, so we don't get squishy ktrain only servers moving up into the top tier (only to get completely smashed next matchup), and also to help limit high KDR teams from dropping down. This could help ensure well rounded teams get better quality matchups, and to avoid the "no-challenge slaughter house" type matchups (alot of fight veterans think that is boring). This might even help promote team goals more clearly.

[Another Method]
While killing an enemy rewards ppt, perhaps it should also affect the other team score negatively. This could help pull down squishy ktrain only servers, so they can't move up if they just suck in combat (perhaps bypassing the need of a complicated KDR tier requirement in the first place.. if score balanced well enough *cough*).

[An older proposed system we (old BG warcouncil stuff) discussed a long time ago, suggested "higher PPT score gained from kills", but this doesn't really limit massive ktrain teams from gaining lots of objective cap ppt and moving up anyway].
 

[kamikharzeeh.8016]

@Rubi Bayer.8493 for some people the "set guild" for alliances does not work, any info on this?

[Whirlygig.9685]

The set Guild choice is also bugged for me, worse still, I actually thought it had applied because i went into the UI and ticked it the day before. It's only because someone mentioned it while playing that i double checked, now i cannot apply a tick either in Guild UI or WvW to set Guild, the moment you shut that tab your choice disappears.

 

[Xenesis.6389]

There's a patch tomorrow, wait for it....

 

[kamikharzeeh.8016]

16 hours ago, Whirlygig.9685 said:

The set Guild choice is also bugged for me, worse still, I actually thought it had applied because i went into the UI and ticked it the day before. It's only because someone mentioned it while playing that i double checked, now i cannot apply a tick either in Guild UI or WvW to set Guild, the moment you shut that tab your choice disappears.

 

yeah i think that's similar to the described problem i've noticed. talks with dev discord is probably yet going, but i'm concerned because we are getting close to the date of locked  signups or sth alike yet right?

edit: apparently the fix for one of my guildies for this problem was, you need to be in chat options "online"

Edited June 6, 2023 by kamikharzeeh.8016

[Rubi Bayer.8493]

20 hours ago, kamikharzeeh.8016 said:

@Rubi Bayer.8493 for some people the "set guild" for alliances does not work, any info on this?

There is! We've been looking into it and confirmed last night that this is a visual-only issue. If you select the guild using the "Set as WvW guild" button, it does register your selection even if it doesn't show up visually for you.

 

I also want to add some quick clarification for everyone on how selection works as we approach the start of beta: The guild you choose this Thursday, June 8, will define your team matchmaking for the two-week duration of the beta. You will be part of that team for both weeks, even when the matchup changes at the following reset. Leaving or changing your battle guild will not change your team during the beta. (This functions the same way that relinking does).