Knighthonor.4061 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 How many of you would be interested in Male Charr model getting an optional updated choice?I like my character and I like having a number of races in the game, but the Charr race just doesn't set well with me and a lot of others. Something is off about the race and how it mesh with non racial gear. The posture for the Male Charr seem off putting visually. I remember old concept art which showed osme more upright Charr designs. I would like something like that to choose from with a lot less Neck Hang, which tend to make most head gear look awkward on Charr. I like the larger size and all. Not asking for that to be removed. Just want something with better posture. Would be nice to have some kind of in game funding to get that made into reality would be nice. Like a way to gift gems to such a project to Finance this addition. But other ideas are also acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 The more upright Charr in most of the concept art are in battle, or with weapons drawn, which all Charr stand up for combat or when they have their weapons drawn. Outside of that, with the modifications to the charrs lore and such the Fire Legions Shaman Caste seem to be the ones who had the "upright all the time" body structure, so im not certain that would have carried over. To a more technical standpoint, making a race have two separate skeletons(one for male, also kinda..sexist? to ask for just male Charr to get a skeleton change...and a entirely separate one for female) is 100% not going to happen. The amount of changes to existing armor would make it more than likely not to happen on that alone. But then you have to figure cost and time of making a skeleton that only one gender of one of the smallest(playable percentage) races is going to use another factor. Id rather them just spend the time to make the armor fit properly on charr, including the time to make it look good on their necks and getting rid of the trashbag helmets which plague heavy armor, than basically make a new sub species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaverKane.7598 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Except for the way they hold Staves (and just because using a scythe on them doesn't look as cool as other races, and my necro is a charr), i don't see anything wrong with charr, they're more animalistic which is pretty much their whole thing.It's true that the way they're built and move causes a lot of problems for the race, like weird clipping issues, even with racial armor, and the devs lack of will to work a bit more on the charr models does limit armor choices, especially helms, which most of the times just look ridiculous on charr, either leaving the whole neck exposed, or removing the horns, or just being useless, like a piece of sheet metal warped and just sitting on their head. But this would all be negated (maybe except for the clipping issues) if devs would devote a bit longer to tuning armor for charr a bit more. It's their most iconic race and it's the least supported in terms of aesthetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donari.5237 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 You asked this in https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/46798/how-you-all-feel-about-charr-getting-a-model-update/p1 (though that was not a poll).There is also a discussion at https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/26474/charr-lore-introducing-new-posture-for-charrsMy answer in your earlier thread stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipso.8653 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Almost all my characters are Charr, and they look great, just gotta find stuff and make it work. There are plenty of armors that look good if you look for them.Got:Male Charr FBMale Charr ReaperMale Charr ChronoMale Charr DHFemale Charr ScourgeMale Charr RevMale Charr RangerFemale Norn HoloMale Asura War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewt.9258 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Absolutely not. The posture that Charr have now is essential to allow them to switch between bipedal and quadrupedal. If you changed their posture they would not be able to switch between the two without breaking their necks. Having them as they are now is perfectly fine and I would take it over an upright posture ever single time for the single fact that my Charr can transition into a full four legged gallop which is still one of the coolest and unique things I've ever seen in an mmo player character. It's the reason I fell in love with Charr, they aren't just boring human reskins like Khajit. If they stood upright they would be boooring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfreak.6591 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 @"Dante.1763" said:To a more technical standpoint, making a race have two separate skeletons(one for male, also kinda..sexist? to ask for just male Charr to get a skeleton change...and a entirely separate one for female) is 100% not going to happen. The amount of changes to existing armor would make it more than likely not to happen on that alone. But then you have to figure cost and time of making a skeleton that only one gender of one of the smallest(playable percentage) races is going to use another factor. "Two skeletons"? oO a rigged character is just that, you can slap whatever animation you want on it tbh, no need to rerig it. Warframe has the option to run different animations on different models as well, at a cost ofc wink-wink.Also, no changes to existing armor either, not to mention many parts didn't even need rigging if they were just nested in the skeleton (doubt you should make metal armor bend like that too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castigator.3470 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 While I agree that armor needs some attention to detail if it gets ported over to the charr, I don't think that any changes in the base model would help. The racial armor works, and some of the outfits are extremely well made, so it generally has to do with time issues, that charr have been left in the dust when it comes to armor skins.Asura have a different issue, where their clothing works really well, but they are so small, that it's difficult to spot all the intricate details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Mistward with the plated blinds with the large spiky hairdo works well for Charr I find as it covers the neck. Requim is disappointing with a huge bare neck. Plus if you go underwater, then your hairdo magickally reappears. Fugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardid.7203 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Big predators don't stand uptight, good martial artist keep a low center of gravity. They are spring like, flexible, powerful and ready to jump.I love Charr as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einlanzer.1627 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Honestly if anything is in need of a model update it's Norn males. Their proportions are really, really off AND they are too pretty-faced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 If it was optional I wouldn't mind it existing, but I wouldn't use it for my male charr.One of the things I really like about GW2 is that different races actually look different. They're not just humans with a few token changes like in many games. I know it makes armour tricky and there's definitely some skins I wouldn't use on my charr because I don't like how they look (although the same is true of all my characters, including the humans) but I prefer choosing skins which suits them to having yet another race that's basically humans and a wider choice of armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauderi.8706 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I'm down for the option, for male and female. Some folks don't like their hunch, others would like to see chest armors clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch of Doom.5739 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I would like a more upright OPTION for both male and female Charr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehenna.3625 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I said no because I don't care. I don't play Charr so their posture is irrelevant to me. So would I like it? No. Would it bother me if they did it anyway? Also no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeyteriKiyeri.4207 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 No, I like them how they are. But I still like more gear that shows fur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf Kai.3682 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 No thanks. Even a Charr since release and I like it just the way it is. Just for emphasis, I have all of my toons as Charr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve The Cynic.3217 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 You forgot to include "Meh" in your poll options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorudo.9054 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 i say yes because that's how the charr should've bin, all we have now are overgrown kitties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasind.3128 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I'd say updated postures for both. As in male AND Female Charr. More upright if anything. Charr can stand upright.I'd like better things for Charr altogether, but Anet wants us to forget they designed a class and that's why almost everything that comes out still looks bad on Charr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeivu.3615 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 There are plenty of games with cat-people that follow that formula. Lineage and the Elder Scroll series to name a few. While I would like a model update, making them upright robs them of everything that makes them unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowHawk.3615 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I voted yeah, but personally new idle animations is what I'd prefer. Also, upright Charr is something the flame legion did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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