Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) what is necromantic corruption? edit oh nvm the mm trait Edited September 22, 2021 by Stand The Wall.6987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Genesis.5169 said: I'm 1 warning post away from being muted again so have a nice day. It just hit me that the guy is in silver as minion mancer necro. He never had a single pvp interaction, not only most of his enemies are bots but his build also plays itself lol 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Brimstone Jack.3462 said: So, is MM a braindead class that only noobs use to get ez Ws? Or are they actually a well-made class that plays as intended, in use by the top players in the game? Your choice, since you obviously can't have have both. Or it's just overpowered and will boost players regardless of tier and there's no real way to deal with it except with more necromancers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Brimstone Jack.3462 said: So, is MM a braindead class that only noobs use to get ez Ws? Or are they actually a well-made class that plays as intended, in use by the top players in the game? Your choice, since you obviously can't have have both. Its a braindead class that bots can use to get into top 250. Its so overpowered that a good player who knows how to cover its weaknesses is nearly unstoppable, especially if they have a team that communicates & supports them. Minion hp was never the problem with mm. Its been nerfed 3 times now and the rest of necro has gone untouched. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dralor.3701 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 MM build should not be a thing. Reminds me of when condi spirit ranger was able to face roll people. This spec is dumb and AI centric passive builds like this have no place in a competitive environment. At least the other necro specs require some amount of thought. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 If Engi can't have viable turrets because AI, then Necro shouldn't have viable minions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Necromancer is a class made to sell copies of the games....no shame...no respect..nothing left in the MMO market 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valik Shin.9027 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 first off i play Sb warrior so all power. Personally i have little issue with most necros as they are mostly trash players. Necro downstate however is kittening broken against me as i have no way to counter it. All that said, Necros need a nerf. A scoure can just strait up tank 4 or 5 bust and still be at 70% health. Once the barrier and sand shround are gone it's easier but wow that takes a lot. Lich is just stupid. I get it's suppose to be a necro form of Juggernaut but i can assure you i don't hit heavy targets for 4k-5k with the auto attack. The agility to condi burst is very powerful against mist classes due to most classes just applying condis on pretty much everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZerotheFang.5890 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) i mean necro is pretty nerfed as is only way they could is just to nerf carapace toughness or the time you have to keep it up, or just nerf the whole blood tree, but then there are other classes I feel need bigger nerf bats like thief's invis/mesmer clone amounts/ just getting rid of any healing trinkets or just nerf healing specs for most classes in spvp. heck I think we should just make spvp 3 sets of stats valk/carrion/something else and just have everyone choose one and just get rid of all these extra amulets we are not using, most builds just zerker/marauder/avatar anyways for power. Edited September 26, 2021 by ZerotheFang.5890 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 11 hours ago, ZerotheFang.5890 said: i mean necro is pretty nerfed as is only way they could is just to nerf carapace toughness or the time you have to keep it up, or just nerf the whole blood tree, but then there are other classes I feel need bigger nerf bats like thief's invis/mesmer clone amounts/ just getting rid of any healing trinkets or just nerf healing specs for most classes in spvp. heck I think we should just make spvp 3 sets of stats valk/carrion/something else and just have everyone choose one and just get rid of all these extra amulets we are not using, most builds just zerker/marauder/avatar anyways for power. Lol everything needs nerf but necros are ok? what game are you playing? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancho.8750 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 4:06 AM, Kuma.1503 said: If Engi can't have viable turrets because AI, then Necro shouldn't have viable minions. I think with all the nerfs that flew around, there might be some B tier turret build being viable, I can see the kitten show from here, considering FT scrapper made the list of complaints. This kitten will probably win just by the shear confusion and novelty about it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 13 hours ago, ZerotheFang.5890 said: i mean necro is pretty nerfed as is only way they could is just to nerf carapace toughness or the time you have to keep it up, or just nerf the whole blood tree, but then there are other classes I feel need bigger nerf bats like thief's invis/mesmer clone amounts/ just getting rid of any healing trinkets or just nerf healing specs for most classes in spvp. heck I think we should just make spvp 3 sets of stats valk/carrion/something else and just have everyone choose one and just get rid of all these extra amulets we are not using, most builds just zerker/marauder/avatar anyways for power. Haha this cant be a real post, if it is.....wow.....just wow. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZerotheFang.5890 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Exile.8160 said: Lol everything needs nerf but necros are ok? what game are you playing? really necros are hard to beat up, what build are you playing are you using range or are you jumping into the shades/not dodging out of their aoes? do you have a condi cleanse on bar? are you using zerker or any amulet that does not have vitality on a low hp class? are you using a meta battle build that is out of date? like to know? i play DH trapper most minion-mancers i just pull into traps they die or ping from a far with bow/ as a thief i use dual pistols to burst them down or rifle on deadeye to snipe them. heck warrior can just stun lock them and they pretty much dead so idk what peoples issue is. real issue is people do not know to focus on the necro get them down first and take care of rest so unless there is some god necro build i not know of plz link it. Edited September 26, 2021 by ZerotheFang.5890 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ketsu.4569 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Anet has a track record of nerfing around problems instead of fixing them. Necromancer is in an interesting state because unlike other classes that rely on active skill for defense, Necros lack significant amount of dodge/block skills and instead most Necro defense comes in the form of passives both from traits being stronger than other classes and having lots of autopilot mechanics ( IE Shroud / lifeforce ). So when the Feb 2020 megabalance came and the cooldowns were nerfed on all defensive skills on other classes, did Anet ever properly touch the passive mechanics of Necro? Nope. And so the class has been borked for a solid year because they nerf everything except the passives. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Master Ketsu.4569 said: Anet has a track record of nerfing around problems instead of fixing them. Necromancer is in an interesting state because unlike other classes that rely on active skill for defense, Necros lack significant amount of dodge/block skills and instead most Necro defense comes in the form of passives both from traits being stronger than other classes and having lots of autopilot mechanics ( IE Shroud / lifeforce ). So when the Feb 2020 megabalance came and the cooldowns were nerfed on all defensive skills on other classes, did Anet ever properly touch the passive mechanics of Necro? Nope. And so the class has been borked for a solid year because they nerf everything except the passives. Dont get me wrong I agree with you but I never get why people say Necros dont have defensives skills they have some of the best in the game. Wurm, spectral walk, fear wall and fog cloud are all great on top of all that they get shroud as a built in untouched in the feb nerfs mechaninc. Edited September 30, 2021 by Exile.8160 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellhunter.9675 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Exile.8160 said: Dont get me wrong I agree with you but I never get why people say Necros dont have defensives skills they have some of the best in the game. Wurm, spectral walk, fear wall and fog cloud are all great on top of all that they get shroud as a build in untouched in the feb nerfs mechaninc. Wurm and spectral walk can be very good as defensive skills occasionally. But calling it best in the game is exaggeration when there are things like elixir S or distortion etc. The problem is shroud and linked traits.I don't understand why Foot in the Grave was replaced with Eternal life. Eternal life trait is still a problematic trait even after nerf. Edited September 30, 2021 by Spellhunter.9675 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Spellhunter.9675 said: Wurm and spectral walk can be very good as defensive skills occasionally. But calling it best in the game is exaggeration when there are things like elixir S or distortion etc. Thats why I said "some of the best" and not "the best" defensive skills in the game. Edited September 30, 2021 by Exile.8160 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Master Ketsu.4569 said: Anet has a track record of nerfing around problems instead of fixing them. Necromancer is in an interesting state because unlike other classes that rely on active skill for defense, Necros lack significant amount of dodge/block skills and instead most Necro defense comes in the form of passives both from traits being stronger than other classes and having lots of autopilot mechanics ( IE Shroud / lifeforce ). So when the Feb 2020 megabalance came and the cooldowns were nerfed on all defensive skills on other classes, did Anet ever properly touch the passive mechanics of Necro? Nope. And so the class has been borked for a solid year because they nerf everything except the passives. They're afraid to nerf it because if they cut the shroud mitigation too deep, we will be back to necros being focused down before they can even use their skills. I don't think they want to destroy the core, just the annoying results of stacking that core with things that are low effort. I'm fine with that, but it needs to be in tandem with some buffing. A little sustain on damage oriented classes to help them deliver bursts that threaten the necro if they are mindful of weakness would be ideal here. On 9/25/2021 at 10:00 PM, ZerotheFang.5890 said: i mean necro is pretty nerfed as is only way they could is just to nerf carapace toughness or the time you have to keep it up, or just nerf the whole blood tree, but then there are other classes I feel need bigger nerf bats like thief's invis/mesmer clone amounts/ just getting rid of any healing trinkets or just nerf healing specs for most classes in spvp. heck I think we should just make spvp 3 sets of stats valk/carrion/something else and just have everyone choose one and just get rid of all these extra amulets we are not using, most builds just zerker/marauder/avatar anyways for power. No. Edited September 30, 2021 by Azure The Heartless.3261 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 8:03 AM, Spellhunter.9675 said: I don't want it to be overpowered, but I'm afraid anet will just nerf it to dead state. Which is more likely. You all can keep warrior company then. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law.1704 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Honestly Anet does not care, the mode has been abandoned and necro being op is just a symptom in a very long line or bad decisions and lack of motivation from devs. There is very little chance to salvage the game mode at this point they would be better shuffling the rewards to other modes and focusing on pve and wvw and shutting down pvp all together. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble.4580 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) Because they know necro is the class keeping everything else in line and taking necros peel kill role away would make pvp unbalanced in a bad way. And grd keeps necro I meta, and necro keeps grd, nuf anyone of them and u nurf both. Edited October 2, 2021 by Gamble.4580 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 How about this: Buff warrior so they aren't trash Tier and necro got finaly a class that hard counter them? Anet: nah warrior is good as it is lets nerf it at all 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girlwars.5217 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 i hate necro so much 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXxNikiGoesWildxXx.3678 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 It is good time to nerf necros, this is great post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Idk man just nerf necros or buff all other classes this necr spaming fiesta isnt funny and even not close to good for the pvp game mode! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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