RisenHowl.2419 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) Taking all bets https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sanctuary Every party in wvw needs at least 1 guardian, they just need to toss this out with corrupts and strips. If you're bounced off one sanctuary into another it creates a looping effect that CCs you for 4-5s and can't be stun broken. It's enough CC that whichever group is larger is guaranteed to win. Mark a spot, null field+well of corruption+sanctuary in the middle of a group and the fight is over. At the very least the number of impacts should be halved from 20 to 10 Edited March 2, 2023 by RisenHowl.2419 4 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 wow it took people this long to find out its a strong rune? loller 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrissyBear.4103 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 You guys are behind the times. Our guild has all been running these runes for months now 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenHowl.2419 Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 Edited for clarity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.1430 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I always keep several stacks of those runes in case certain builds need them, very useful 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon.1850 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Logan.4796 said: (1): +25 Vitality (2): +5% Boon Duration (3): +50 Vitality (4): +10% Boon Duration (5): +100 Vitality (6): Gain a barrier with health equal to 10% of any heals you receive.This sounds like it is incredibly broken for WvW. This is coming from someone who plays a Druid a bunch. I'm throwing out impressive heal numbers to the aoe zerg swarms. With a 10% barrier on my allied heals That is heals you receive, not heals you give out. That rune isn't that good except on certain builds that can utilize it, like mechanist who can get perma alac just from using that rune. There are much better runes for survivability than a measly 10% of incoming heal is barrier. (Which I won't tell because otherwise people might use them against me lol) edit, also the OP is talking about the guardian skill, not a rune Edited February 28, 2023 by Zebulon.1850 Clarity 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 That rune works great with Blood Bank. Otherwise it is essentially an extra +10% self healing that happens to overflow if your HP is full. Also, I have not seen Sanctuary (the skill) used in this way yet in game. I suspect that it is a hard setup to accomplish in reality? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Pfft already use to use this on my dragonhunter cc build after they reduced the cooldown, an army of it on the field at the same time would be hilarious though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHT.8297 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 And add on top of that thousands of tempest spamming shoking aura all over the place and you have the most frustrating cc festival you've ever seen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floppypuppy.5789 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 8 hours ago, RisenHowl.2419 said: Taking all bets https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sanctuary Every party in wvw needs at least 1 guardian, they just need to toss this out with corrupts and strips. If you're bounced off one sanctuary into another it creates a looping effect that CCs you for 4-5s and can't be stun broken. It's enough CC that whichever group is larger is guaranteed to win. Mark a spot, null field+well of corruption+sanctuary in the middle of a group and the fight is over. At the very least the number of impacts should be halved from 20 to 10 The current meta is very sensitive to numbers on each side (compared to prev metas) and the smaller side consistently gets CCed into the ground. Its not particularly related to this skill. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddin.8926 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Spoiler Skill issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalker.1398 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) I have been farming Honor of the Waves reward track ever since i started WvW. Edited February 28, 2023 by Sleepwalker.1398 Wrong reward track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subversiontwo.7501 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) On 2/28/2023 at 1:48 PM, RisenHowl.2419 said: It's enough CC that whichever group is larger is guaranteed to win. I pointed this out, in general, before the most recent changes, when we saw the writing on the wall. A balance that favours CC also favours the larger group (much more than too much freedom-from-CC ever does) and ultimately just pushes the content towards pirate ships (that are no less stacked than melee-oriented parties, they just stack at range and have reach). CC never breaks groups up, it forces players out (distance). It leads to less diverse metas, not more diverse such. Melee metas are more diverse as they let range be ranged. Edited March 1, 2023 by subversiontwo.7501 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviel.7493 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Can we call this the Pinball meta? It might still suck to experience, but the name is pretty fun, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenHowl.2419 Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Sviel.7493 said: Can we call this the Pinball meta? It might still suck to experience, but the name is pretty fun, no? I'll change the title, that is more fun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Im actually impressed if people 'play' WVW and have not seen any proper guild playing Sanctuary. It can do more CC for its duration that a warrior made for CC can in the same time period and from range and with no danger. Just another case of Guardian having all the tools needed to play the game outside of boonrip. FB is essential and can do good CC DH has some of the best area denial Willbender has a slept-on support and very potent DPS build Core Guard is the only playable condition build that is amazing vs clouds Sanctuary is the tip of the iceberg and a pretty obnoxious skill at that. Its duration needs a decrease, its cooldown an increase and its effects to be balanced. CC + Projectile Destruction + Heal Lets nerf WoD instead since a bubble seems to be causing problems in wvw. 6 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Grand Marshal.4098 said: Im actually impressed if people 'play' WVW and have not seen any proper guild playing Sanctuary. It can do more CC for its duration that a warrior made for CC can in the same time period and from range and with no danger. Just another case of Guardian having all the tools needed to play the game outside of boonrip. FB is essential and can do good CC DH has some of the best area denial Willbender has a slept-on support and very potent DPS build Core Guard is the only playable condition build that is amazing vs clouds Sanctuary is the tip of the iceberg and a pretty obnoxious skill at that. Its duration needs a decrease, its cooldown an increase and its effects to be balanced. CC + Projectile Destruction + Heal Lets nerf WoD instead since a bubble seems to be causing problems in wvw. Kinda impressed as well since this skill has lost its apeal and its ship has been sailed long time ago... Back in the old Gw2 days we would play ping pong with the enemy, cast sanctuary behind enemy hammer 4 , some hammer guards kept using also hammer 4 to the target was mostly fun :P was like playing squash with friends :P Still Sanctuary isnt that strong lol... Some weapons/skill can reach the target inside with their melee range :P so the dome is kinda meh this skill is actually very weak in most utilization, players can actually melee kill players inside if they dont touch the dome, it is useless to be inside unless u wan to be a siting duck requesting AOE drop, and a unblockable burst on the players inside sanctuary is also a easy dead target :). The only way to make this skill work is only in 1 gameplay if mother duckling vs mother duckling zerg spammers :P even so with almost perma tick gains of stability and perma resistance i am wondering how many really this skill effects... Edited March 2, 2023 by Aeolus.3615 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeRetroHunter.7684 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) some real theorycraft @Logan.4796 : You can use sanctuary runes on vindi to pseudoheal through the Urn punishment, allowing you to camp it (or spam it) in zerg play. Edited March 4, 2023 by JusticeRetroHunter.7684 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahkeus.8243 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 A new report shows that groups with more members defeat groups with fewer members. News at 11. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenHowl.2419 Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 11 hours ago, JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said: some real theorycraft @Logan.4796 : You can use sanctuary runes on vindi to pseudoheal through the Urn punishment, allowing you to camp it (or spam it) in zerg play. Or use resilient spirit since there's nothing better in that tier and keep +20% healing from monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeRetroHunter.7684 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, RisenHowl.2419 said: Or use resilient spirit since there's nothing better in that tier and keep +20% healing from monk Sanct runes has no ICD or cap, and is based on incoming heals coming from your zerg (In that sense its like blood bank...massivly op defensive tool). But ya because there is no other decent choices in that traitline, you'll end up taking resilient spirit anyway, but you can't rely on resilient spirit alone as it can't pump out anywhere near enough healing (barrier) for you to live in any serious situation (resilient can only pump out about 500ish barrier per second... and you're more then likely going to be taking thousands of damage per second in a zerg situation) Keep in mind that, the purpose of needing barrier, is not just to cancel the punishment cost of the urn, but to also be able to receive pseudo-healing since you can't receive real healing from your zerg while urn is up. Meaning if you are taking damage, the barrier is there to absorb that damage and act as as a health bar in place of your actual health bar. Additionally doing stuff like this, the objective is to also be as tanky as possible. ex; if you received 10k damage, and your only pumping out 3k barrier per second from sanct and resilient for instance, that's 7k damage your real health bar takes, that you can not get back because urn stops you from doing that. Therefor you want to turn that 10k damage into something like 3k damage or less (something vindi in a zerg setting can do somewhat passively) which makes defensive stats behave like pseudo-vitality stats (as if your barrier had a higher ceiling). Edited March 5, 2023 by JusticeRetroHunter.7684 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonWing.9480 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Not long enough. RIP Windows Pinball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyOrion.9506 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 On 2/28/2023 at 6:18 AM, Logan.4796 said: (1): +25 Vitality (2): +5% Boon Duration (3): +50 Vitality (4): +10% Boon Duration (5): +100 Vitality (6): Gain a barrier with health equal to 10% of any heals you receive.This sounds like it is incredibly broken for WvW. This is coming from someone who plays a Druid a bunch. I'm throwing out impressive heal numbers to the aoe zerg swarms. With a 10% barrier on my allied heals (6): Gain a barrier with health equal to 10% of any heals you receive. So what your saying is, that this rune needs a nerf? This would kinda of explain how i'm seeing 5k heal per second garbage, making boonstrip perpetually useless. Goes a long way to explaining the complete uselessness of fighting certain groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesione.9412 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Some people are talking about https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_Sanctuary and I read the OP's post as though the OP was talking about https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sanctuary 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 22 hours ago, Hesione.9412 said: Some people are talking about https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_Sanctuary and I read the OP's post as though the OP was talking about https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sanctuary Yeah it's official forum gold. I expect quasi modo to make an appearance next page 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now