Please give non WvW Players the Chance to craft Legendary Weapons without forcing People to play it.

[Inculpatus cedo.9234]

16 minutes ago, KriZZ.9025 said:

sorry but i dont see it that way. its a game, a hobby. i have more then enough stuff i dont enjoy in real life i dont need more in my spare time. 

Do you have an aversion to entering Guild Halls? Because if not, you can slowly gain Potions of WvW Rewards by spending Badges of Honor purchasing Badges of Tribute, which you can then sell.   Or, you can enter WvW at your home base and spend said Badges of Honor on Cultural Armor, Bandit Weapons, and much more.  No one can harm you in your home base.   Check your Wallet for Badges of Honor. 

[KriZZ.9025]

4 minutes ago, Dreams.3128 said:

Games are based on time involvement and how much people interact with content. It doesn't make sense that a game that, most of the time, caters to the way we play to not venture out to see if we like something or not. It is not a matter of if WE want to do it or not, it is a matter to get other people interested in part of their game so they can expand their horizons and play the game even MORE to get their playtime numbers up even more.

If everyone just wanted to do one activity, GW2 wouldn't be the game that it is, flat out. People would not grown as players, or learn the information that they did in order to interact with the game GW2 would have not earned die hard fans if they were stuck doing the same thing over and over again for a decade. They expanded, adapted, grown, and expect the players to do the same, even if it is for a very brief time period.

I understand people want to 'do what they want when they want' but that's not how a success of a game works. That is not how a business works. And that is certainly not how Anet had gotten the types of versatile players that they did. 🤷‍♀️

i mean i play basicly since the beta and even played gw1. even tho at beta and launch i only played spvp only nothing else in a competitive environment. straight for a long time. then with time i got older reflexes getting worse and i lost interest in pvp in generell. i still like the challenge pretty much but i dont want to play against other ppl. i mean there is SOO much stuff i can do in pve only, the game time is more then there. and besides 2 or 3 activitys i rarely do repeated stuff. and sure different game modes are good for a game for an mmo. so communitys develop. but sorry if you say gw2 doesnt work for the most ppl just as an pve game and nothing else i have to strongly disagree. i know a lot of people. they dont do pvp at all they enjoy the whole pve experience. like jumping puzzle, life skilling, even rp or just collecting fashion. the good and important aspect of having different game modes, different difficulties and so on is. you have way bigger reach for more players trying out and playing the game so the playerbase is bigger, but not that the game is balanced around you do excactly everything the game throws at you but you can/ have to choose depending on your time you can put in.

[KriZZ.9025]

12 minutes ago, Ashen.2907 said:

Just to clarify:

You aren't willing to kill PvE mobs in order to get your GoB? I ask because that is all that is required of you to do so.

i just dont want to run into the possibilty other players come run at me and kill my kitten, that annoys me to the moon and back. i played in the past mmos with open pvp like black desert, and i got so angry u cant imagine. thats why i just dont wanna interfere with it in the slightest.

even tho the main goal is still a pve thing. i rather do a whole week, every day every cm strike then doing a daily in wvw.

[Bizgurk.5639]

3 hours ago, KriZZ.9025 said:

I wish there where the option to Craft Legendarys ( Especialy Gen 2 ) without torture your self in playing a Game Mode you just so deeply dislike.

There is a possible way to get contribution for the WvW Reward Track with Pve only, but it takes a very long time and is somewhat limited.
- Complete achievements in Pve (or whatever gamemode you like) to get Achievement Chests, those contain Badges of Honor.
- When there's the WvW Big Spender Daily up spend 25 Badges of Honor to get a Transcendent Chest. That chest contains Badges of Honor and a Potion of WvW Rewards.
- Drink that potion to get contribution towards the Reward Track for the Gift of Battle.
- Repeat

Yes, it takes a really long time and you might not get it to full this way, but least you can partly fill it and reduce the time you have to spend in WvW.
Hope this helps!

[IAmNotMatthew.1058]

1 hour ago, KriZZ.9025 said:

i prefer having it difficult in an activity i enjoy rather, then doing something i dont enjoy.

And you're free to play whatever you enjoy.

Edited August 9, 2023 by IAmNotMatthew.1058

[Schimmi.6872]

1 hour ago, Bizgurk.5639 said:

There is a possible way to get contribution for the WvW Reward Track with Pve only, but it takes a very long time and is somewhat limited.
- Complete achievements in Pve (or whatever gamemode you like) to get Achievement Chests, those contain Badges of Honor.
- When there's the WvW Big Spender Daily up spend 25 Badges of Honor to get a Transcendent Chest. That chest contains Badges of Honor and a Potion of WvW Rewards.
- Drink that potion to get contribution towards the Reward Track for the Gift of Battle.
- Repeat

Yes, it takes a really long time and you might not get it to full this way, but least you can partly fill it and reduce the time you have to spend in WvW.
Hope this helps!

The WvW-rank daily can also be done without WvW  by opening Boxes of WvW Supplies bought for Guild Commendations.

 

[TheGrimm.5624]

5 hours ago, KriZZ.9025 said:

I know I know, the big selling Point since GW2 released was WvW.

First off I am glad you posted this under general vs the WvW subforum. But to be fair to karma, was it?

The lack of WvW changes over a decade would make me question this statement. WvW does keep some of us around as we wait for another RvR game but, not sure it was a selling point versus a side thought to be fair. We have had 3.5 maps now over ten years. Previous RvR games started with 8 times that number of maps day 1 and added more later. 

So good news, new Leggo armor should be available outside of sPvP/WvW/Raid/Fractals.

On the weapon front, we could still use a conversions vendor so that non-WvW player can get what they need and WvW players could skip the PvE bits as well. Since it is a two fold issue here, which again, better to have posted here vs there IMO. Good hunting.

[Khisanth.2948]

This might actually happen with the Wizard's Vault changes. It would still be slower than doing WvW but faster than current method which rely on completing WvW dailies that doesn't require playing WvW.

[Ashen.2907]

3 hours ago, KriZZ.9025 said:

i just dont want to run into the possibilty other players come run at me and kill my kitten, that annoys me to the moon and back. i played in the past mmos with open pvp like black desert, and i got so angry u cant imagine. thats why i just dont wanna interfere with it in the slightest.

even tho the main goal is still a pve thing. i rather do a whole week, every day every cm strike then doing a daily in wvw.

I get that.

Some options then:

1) The daily veteran creature slayer. There is an unwritten code of sorts where people parked at the spawn point of the veteran creature are not supposed to be attacked. Ive seen dance parties with members of all three opposing factions while waiting for spawn. Be aware that once youve gotten in your hits on the veteran all bets are off so perhaps a hit or three then map back to your spawn waypoint on the map or just run away if stuck in combat.

2) Big Spender. You get the currency by playing WvW or via AP chests. Buying siege that you can then sell for silver will complete this daily.

Make sure to check to see which dailies are on for that day of course. These two come up at least a couple of times each over the course of a week.

Edited August 9, 2023 by Ashen.2907

[idpersona.3810]

4 hours ago, KriZZ.9025 said:

and at least i can just farm gold and buy g1 & g3 legys ^^

While this is true, it will take you much much longer than just playing some WvW.
Others have said it, but you can easily get the GoB in about 3 or 4 hours with boosters. Or you can pop in to do (the easy) dailies for a couple of weeks, in about 10-15 minutes of gameplay.

Or like you said, you can just do PVE and farm gold. But the GoB isn't nearly as big a deal as gets made of it. Especially considering everything else that goes into crafting any legendary item.
We can also wait and see if some means of getting one gets added to the Wizard's Vault. Which I think is a real possibility. Maybe a once a quarter purchase or something like that.

I do think it would be fair to have a GoB PvP track. I think it's odd that there isn't one.

[Anvar.5673]

35 minutes ago, idpersona.3810 said:

While this is true, it will take you much much longer than just playing some WvW.

5 hours ago, KriZZ.9025 said:

and at least i can just farm gold and buy g1 & g3 legys ^^

And people often not know that crafting a legendary weapon is a lot cheaper than buy it.

Prices (in average, without any material in storage):

• Gen 1: Craft = 1100 gold / Buy = 2100 gold ;
• Gen 2: Craft only = 1900 gold ;
• Gen 3: Craft = 1300 gold / Buy = 2300 gold.

[ArchonWing.9480]

8 hours ago, KriZZ.9025 said:

I wish there where the option to Craft Legendarys ( Especialy Gen 2 ) without torture your self

This option does not exist in any game mode. Gen 2s are designed for masochists. And honestly, I don't think they're going to be revisited as the gen 3 ones are the way to go.

Consider the Gen 2.5 ones, which is only mild torture because of the lack of collections.

Edited August 9, 2023 by ArchonWing.9480

[solzuul.6294]

I don't think it's an unfair request to not require PVP or WVW mats in order to craft open world legendaries seeing as those game modes never see any updates anyways.

Roll them into the wizard's vault. 

[Swoo.5079]

As a WvW player I think it is a good idea for players that do not want to engage in wvw not to be forced into it.

It distorts servers populations and make for certain situations aren't what you thought (as in there are 3 enemy players with wvw builds and your 2 allies are zerker PvE builds).

Now, it will likely not happen as Anet want a carrot to nudge players into trying game modes like WvW and PvP.

But hey, legendary open world armor to the detriment of raids, so who knows.

 

Edited August 9, 2023 by Swoo.5079

[solzuul.6294]

16 minutes ago, Swoo.5079 said:

As a WvW player I think it is a good idea for players that do not want to engage in wvw not to be forced into it.

It distorts servers populations and make for certain situations aren't what you thought (as in there are 3 enemy players with wvw builds and your 2 allies are zerker PvE builds).

Now, it will likely not happen as Anet want a carrot to nudge players into trying game modes like WvW and PvP.

But hey, legendary open world armor to the detriment of raids, so who knows.

 

For years I have made legendaries by clogging up map queues and running into walls and being otherwise completely unengaged in the game mode. Design it like a chore, get treated it like a chore.

Entire thread is full of people who want more of this. 

[Omega.6801]

No.

[XenesisII.1540]

11 hours ago, KriZZ.9025 said:

Hello Guys, 

I know I know, the big selling Point since GW2 released was WvW. but tbh i REALLY hate it. i cannot stand a minute in there. 

I wish there where the option to Craft Legendarys ( Especialy Gen 2 ) without torture your self in playing a Game Mode you just so deeply dislike. Maybe im just a big exception idk. 

Maybe a Reward Track for PvE to get Stuff from WvW, is possible or something like that. 

Am I the only 1 who just cant stand WvW? 

If Someone has other Ideas, how to reach non WvW Players for the Legendary Crafting. Feel free to Discuss 🙂 

p.s. Could be possible we have to do WvW for the new upcoming Legendary Armor aswell :x

Sure as long as they include a method to obtain those legendaries without pve too, cause you know, it goes the other way where there's players who think pve is torture and deeply dislike  it in this game.

Just to be fair to everyone involved. 🤷‍♂️

[Erich.1783]

I would like to see GoBs being able to be traded/posted on the TP.  Good for you and good for me (I have a bunch sitting in my chest).  Of course I would like to see GoE treated the same way (20+ of those sitting).

[Dark Red Killian.3946]

If you don’t want to do wvw then you can always just save up the gold to buy a legendary on trading post. To be honest; I make a ton of legendaries. I have 8 weapons of all gens left to make, and wvw is by far the least of my problems with making the legendary. I just do the wvw dailies, like big spender, land, camps, or ruins. Those may take 5-15 min tops to complete. There are also weekly wvw now too so if you get 5 ruins, easy gives you more potions to get your track even further. This is my least played game mode out of everything, and I can get the gift of battle just through dailies in just a few weeks. I get it isn’t your favorite, but in small amounts it is totally doable and you don’t have to spend a lot of time there. Otherwise, like I said, you can always buy the legendary.

[Doggie.3184]

WvW is a PvE map. Just go do it.

[IndigoSundown.5419]

5 hours ago, XenesisII.1540 said:

Sure as long as they include a method to obtain those legendaries without pve too, cause you know, it goes the other way where there's players who think pve is torture and deeply dislike  it in this game.

Just to be fair to everyone involved. 🤷‍♂️

Yes, I would support the OP's request if ANet put a way to get Gifts of Exploration into WvW (and maybe sPvP).  I will never do another heart quest in this game, they're boring as all get out.

[costepj.5120]

Imagine if you could earn GoE just by completing WvW maps; how many thousands of WvW haters would suddenly set aside their principles and come flooding in!

[The Boz.2038]

21 hours ago, vares.8457 said:

If you want to craft a legendary, do what is required just like everyone else. 

Endless complaining got PvE legendary armor announced, so you really can't blame people for trying.

[Antycypator.9874]

Gift of Battle should be available for Badges of Honor, like it was used to.

But GoB reward track is easy. Just use as many wvw reward track boosters as you can, then rotate between two nearest camps. Take camp 1 -> run to camp 2 -> meanwhile enemy players will take camp 1 -> take camp 2 -> run back to camp 1 -> repeat the process until you get gift of battle. And do some easy daily, it will speed up the process.

Last time I didn't even die or kill an enemy player.

 

[alteriel valie.4751]

One day i saw someone escort dollies from camp to keep.He never run to defend the camp,he was hiding in the tower and only escort dollies after the camp recap!
I asked him why you dont defend the camp?
He said im here for the GoB,i keep up my participation from escort until i finish the track and im gone from wvw!
You can do the same,use the daily potions too and you will finish it on the easy way!