Kuzan.6059 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 13 hours ago, Cal Cohen.2358 said: Hi everyone, Just a heads up that our next round of balance adjustments will be coming on September 26. This will include changes to address some overperforming builds in PvE (on top of a few small adjustments going out in tomorrow’s build to address some outliers in competitive modes). We’ll continue to keep a close eye on things after that update and may make additional tuning adjustments as needed outside of our regular balance cycle. Thanks, Cal “cmc” Cohen Skills and Balance Lead Adress "some" overperforming builds. Almost every single Dps Spec can do 40k+ dps atm. Old Content is worthless. At least give us a reasoning or something. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorLeal.4102 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) The previews it was a cool idea, first it was live in a studio, then they let you record at home, now they just tell you to post a text on the forum lmao Anet doesn't know how to move forward? Make a good decision and undo it.. What a vicious cycle. Now we are paying $25+ per year, we want to see results and see a real community manager, more lives, more communication on the blog. Edited September 12, 2023 by VictorLeal.4102 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shib.1369 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Buff sword/shield soldier's gear power core warrior please. Hardest build in the game. Can only bench 3k with self-boons/condis rn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKitty.6120 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, shib.1369 said: Buff sword/shield soldier's gear power core warrior please. Hardest build in the game. Can only bench 3k with self-boons/condis rn. ...why you would ever mention that horror? Kitty's still traumatized from doing open-world "RNG'd build" stream on it. 🙀 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 hours ago, HotDelirium.7984 said: I mean that is smarter on some level-release the balance patch and notes, they get feedback on what needs work, they readjust INSTEAD of the preview with a million novels of text feedback, hardly enough time to fix any of it, feels bad, released and people complain that they didn't listen. The people will still say that he end effect of introduced changes should have been obvious right away, without having to wait and see how they perform in the game. And they'd be right about that. The only difference will be that Anet will get information about what to fix several weeks later. Now, of course, there is indeed no point in posting balance previews if Anet never intended to listen to the feedback in the first place. And from our side it's actlually better too - this way at least we can see things as they really are instead of mistakenly believing the seeming changes in communication meant anything. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony.8261 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Hope some balances come to WvW too. Everyone now plays some sort of Assassin spec, with all the unnecessary increases of power burst combined with all the Invunerability, Blocks, Stealth, etc classes now have. It's ridiculous. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassablanca.5821 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) my mechanist rifle hitting ppl for 500 in wvw while I am getting hit for 15000 dmg from arc divider good balance thx Edited September 12, 2023 by Kassablanca.5821 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulknight.9620 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Please for the love of god, give weaver some self quickness uptime, its not even funny how cata/tempest overshadows weaver atm. And: #buffStaff, #removeEnergyForCata 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundabolt.8541 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 "We know you won't like this one, so we're not giving you a preview, but we're going to release it anyway" 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stx.4857 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 So like where are the notes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daw.4923 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I hope that qherald will get little more buffs. i can imagine pulsing 2000k radius slow and 50k dps to match normal dps. arene shoud get some buffs too since hes on par with DH and we cant have that. dont forget to nerf qb cfb i heard that some ppl still playing it. oh and fractals are still in a game with 5 sec phases now... and most cms are still bugged. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian.4836 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 So Anet is more interesting in "balacing" cause i know they will kill almost every class again. but fixing bugs is second priority. good to know we have wait every 3months for the fractals to be fixed I will think about it, next time I will be purcashing a new expansion. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.7983 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) Skill balance = what class cal and roy love get pushed to top priority. Class dev lead needs to communicate more with us, last 2+ years have been a disaster and next time expansion or gem sales come up people should think otherwise. The usual ask for feedback post. 20+ pages later ignored btw is anti consumer. If see that again will have had enough supporting game. Edited September 12, 2023 by Mike.7983 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mike.7983 said: Skill balance = what class cal and roy love get pushed to top priority. Class dev lead needs to communicate more with us, last 2+ years have been a disaster and next time expansion or gem sales come up people should think otherwise. The usual ask for feedback post. 20+ pages later ignored btw is anti consumer. If see that again will have had enough supporting game. This just doesn't make sense. It's literally not possible for Anet to implement a balanced class scheme by listening more to the disparate opinions of random players. The funny think is that never have I seen Anet ASK for feedback on patch notes. What ACTAULLY happens is that they provide the patch notes and we CAN provide feedback. That's not the same thing as Anet ASKING for it. Edited September 12, 2023 by Obtena.7952 1 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 As long as they dont do an cover all update that is for pve but hits wvw and spvp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephalem.8921 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 My post got deleted so i guess i have to repeat it. Another 2 weeks of scourge? It was already busted before soto launch and is not funny anymore. Hotfix for akeem relic and scourge/specter was not possible? Again a couple months into scourge fiesta in instanced content. Who cares just press 1. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giovanni.7051 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 How predictably unfortunate for us all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 16 hours ago, Evenaardez.7913 said: Secrets of the Obscure balance… You just won the internet today, dear sir. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirius.4510 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I have to echo the people who have been asking for more clarity on the goals here. Specifically (this is from a PvE perspective) - What's the target DPS number? Before SotO, it seemed to be around 40k; now everything seems to be way above that. But there was never an official target. Knowing what the target is helps the community know what's overperforming and likely to be nerfed, vs what's underperforming. It also helps make decisions about whether I should put time into learning a build - how long is it going to stay useful knowledge? Do you (i.e. ArenaNet) plan to do anything about the "hidden cooldowns" issue with many Relics? The general trend with balance seems to have been to make more builds less difficult to play to a competent level, but hidden cooldowns take things in the opposite direction. Is there a change in philosophy, or is this just something that needs improvement? Will "good DPS but janky" weapons/rotations get a usability pass? There are many examples but the one I'm most familiar with is Soulbeast mainhand sword, which does great damage but is prone to cancelling Path of Scars (axe 4), and Serpent Strike (sword 3) is unpredictable - it occasionally throws me through the target which can be very, very bad in some content. Meanwhile, I'm hearing that it might be a DPS increase to cancel hammer 3 by stowing after the first hit, which is just obnoxious to play with. (I miss Greatsword being good DPS, that weapon actually felt fun and smooth to play...) While I haven't played Firebrand much, I hear similar complaints from people who used to - numbers OK, but feels bad to actually play. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echostorm.9143 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) PLEASE don't balance PVE based on golem benching. Please don't balance PVE based on PVP. Nothing is "Busted" in the real game. Golem != real Edited September 12, 2023 by Echostorm.9143 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulknight.9620 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, Echostorm.9143 said: Nothing is "Busted" in the real game. Golem != real Sure, scourge could use some more love! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echostorm.9143 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, soulknight.9620 said: Sure, scourge could use some more love! I mean, if you're taking requests kicking Parasitic Contagion back up to 8 or 10% would be nice for sustain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creativity.3816 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) how about instead of nerfing player damage, make the pve enemies deal more damage so gearing isnt just all celestial or full glass. the only reason people are talking about "45k benchmark dps" or whatever is because the pve is too easy so the endgame is hitting a golem Edited September 12, 2023 by Creativity.3816 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Good balance push today. Looking forward to the balance preview later this month. 🤙 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 These changes only for pvp, while wvw stays broken af needs to stop. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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