LionZero.3479 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I know a lot of people enjoy the skill-lagg boon-ball-blobs, but isn't it time for something like no downedstate-week again.The game has more then enough sustain these days to have these weeks a bit more regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 yes. :3 we need a week where wvw is queued like spvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I would like to try a no rally week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash.9213 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 No on no down state but no rally would be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 No rally would definetly be more interesting as a lets-see-what-happens week. Because its one of the changes that would be permanently acceptable. However... you would still be able to power res with 5 peeps. Still wanna see 1:1 ressing before we have a new event :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 When was the last time wvw had an event? the broken core swap back in july? another event they couldn't be bothered to fix or much less acknowledge it's bugs. Think that should probably give you an idea about events and wvw, even through the aug-nov time you could see the population dropping for months and nothing was being done. I guess it's just too much to run a schedule of monthly events and festivals. Where's the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodjur.1284 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 @Stand The Wall.6987 said:I would like to try a no rally week.@kash.9213 said:@Dawdler.8521 said:I would personally be much more interested in a no ressing week than no rally, never really been that annoyed at really but power ressing with mercy runes/ressing traits/multiple people is so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkamania.7561 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Vanilla week would be an amazing event but the devs don't want to do that for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 bring back MS-does-double-damage week. It was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I believe they said April on the Livestream this week: (videos/517584747)https://www.twitch.tv/videos/517584747 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Only 8+ months? Try 12+ months since Shattered Aegis was nerfed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 You already have "no downed state", its called Warclaw stomp. It already makes the game incredibly frustrating for supports! There's nothing quite like your ally having to run all the way back from the waypoint without mount and blaming you for it.Remember the golden rule, every bad idea that you have, supports get blamed for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokk.2397 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Does anyone realize how many skills and traits would have to be changed just for WvW if they removed downed for WvW ? Hint: it's over 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schokelmei.8271 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Isn't this game enough "no downstate" already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subversiontwo.7501 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 @"gebrechen.5643" said:Isn't this game enough "no downstate" already?This.It's interesting that they said on the stream that the event was well recieved when most players I know either took the week off, got bored with the week after a day or two and/or resorted just to play stealth classes after a day or two.I don't hate stealth or burst or roaming or ganking all too much but I don't remember the event as well recieved. I remember it as very barren after a day or two with less people playing and less people playing classes that could be easily found and engaged upon. Everything turned more cowardly whether we talk about small scale or large scale. The event just threw the balance further for stealth ganking and pirate shipping. Things that were already normative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspirine.6852 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I would like to see a reference to GW1, Frozen Soil weekend. No rezzing possible. So if you rally fine, but none can rez you, just waypoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widmo.3186 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 @subversiontwo.7501 said:@"gebrechen.5643" said:Isn't this game enough "no downstate" already?This.It's interesting that they said on the stream that the event was well recieved when most players I know either took the week off, got bored with the week after a day or two and/or resorted just to play stealth classes after a day or two.I don't hate stealth or burst or roaming or ganking all too much but I don't remember the event as well recieved. I remember it as very barren after a day or two with less people playing and less people playing classes that could be easily found and engaged upon. Everything turned more cowardly whether we talk about small scale or large scale. The event just threw the balance further for stealth ganking and pirate shipping. Things that were already normative.It's interesting that most players you know either took the week off, got bored with the week after a day or two and/or resorted just to play stealth classes after a day or two.Most players I know either came back just for this event, or were playing twice as much as they usually do because they enjoyed the event so much. Myself included. Also about stealth classes, during no downed state week I played more my main (Weaver) than classes with high in/out possibility that I usually roam with (teef/mes). Why? Because during outnumbered fights I could just kill 1, without caring about downed state, switch to the other and then the other one. During normal week I would down 1 guy and if the others know what to do they would just ress him and fun begins again. While playing teef or mes with higher mobility and stealth access Idc whether its no downed state or not, I just down some1, go to stealth or Shadowstep out/in and stomp him, hopefully before others ress him.So yeah, basically I disagree with your whole comment.@Chaba.5410 said:Only 8+ months? Try 12+ months since Shattered Aegis was nerfed!Waited for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schokelmei.8271 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Weird, because it's my experience too. Maybe you know a lot of players that are on oneshot builds and basically can't react properly to rezzing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subversiontwo.7501 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 @Widmo.3186 said:Most players I know either came back just for this event, or were playing twice as much as they usually do because they enjoyed the event so much. Myself included. Also about stealth classes, during no downed state week I played more my main (Weaver) than classes with high in/out possibility that I usually roam with (teef/mes). Why? Because during outnumbered fights I could just kill 1, without caring about downed state, switch to the other and then the other one. During normal week I would down 1 guy and if the others know what to do they would just ress him and fun begins again. While playing teef or mes with higher mobility and stealth access Idc whether its no downed state or not, I just down some1, go to stealth or Shadowstep out/in and stomp him, hopefully before others ress him.So yeah, basically I disagree with your whole comment.I don't think it is much to agree or disagree with, I guess it just played out very differently on different servers with different types of content (at all scales). On the highly populated servers that I saw it stifled the big pickups or closed tags, disrupted the smaller scale guild- or zergbusting (without affecting the blob busting too much and rather made the difference between a blob and a cloud negligable) and equal-ish team fights so players resorted to ganking. If, for example, you had a decently healthy midsized community that still does alot of smaller scaled roaming and closed tags without alot of competetive guild players, it may have created more such situations that you speak of. I don't know what server you're on but that would be an assumption because where I am at, most players who are experienced and used to play agressively in pickups, coordinated with friends or in closed raids just put who remained active during the week into stealthy gank parties as BvB, GvG and 5/10vX content deteriorated. So had you been where I was you would have had a cloud or full parties of stealth classes on you that week if you solo roamed on Weaver. If any content benefitted from the event there it was clouding since some servers still blobbed but you could more easily cloud them with a smatter of roamers.What you're describing does sound nice, don't get me wrong. It just sounds far less organized and predatory than what I am used to, in fact, it sounds like early vanilla with ample amounts of differently sized and skilled groups littering the maps. Comming across a couple of average players not on stealth classes on my servers is a very rare sight because they are supple prey for almost any of the common content groups with- or without downstate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Most people I know don't like coming back from the waypoint every five minutes, it happens too much already if you're outmatched. Maybe its good for when you're 'stacked but when you're struggling the game just becomes waypoint spam.Take a look at the description for "Outnumbered" - No armor repairs, did you ever think about why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nauda.3678 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Tons of people in this forum like to complain that sieges in wvw are discouraged because of stuff like siegeweapons and guildtactics etc.I think "no downstate" is a bigger discouragement to attacking objectives than any of the other stuff that is in the game.Not being able to rezz people in a t3 keep while being picked of by siegeweapons + tactics + clouding defenders + certain burstbuild like burnguard destroying most siege and killing attacking players very fast is the biggest discouragement I can think off.As soon as the attackers get inside, the defenders can just repair the gate/wall and let 5-10 people on burstbuilds(soulbeast, burnguards, mesmer, deadeye) deal with the reinforcements, while the remaining defenders just kill the attackers inside one at a time.Attacking t3 objects during a "no-downstate"-week, especially if you are not the "dominating server" of the matchup, is like getting wisdom teeth removed: Nobody does that for fun.This also means that the stronger server is more likely to be able to keep/defend everything they upgrade on enemie borders and this further discourages the smaller servers to attack. It's the "t3 stonemist problem" cranked up to 11."no downstate"-weeks have been the most unfun weeks as a pug-commander against stronger servers that I ever had to do(unless you are fine with sitting in your own stuff and wait for anything to attack, I guess).And at that point I didn't lead for fun but because others didn't want to and someone had to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 @Stand The Wall.6987 said:I would like to try a no rally week.This, and a week where dead means respawn, no open field rez. Or at least a week where a spike means it has to run back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crepuscular.9047 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 can we have a "Real Life Mode" weekend? if you died your toon is replaced with a tombstone permanently :smirk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 @"crepuscular.9047" said:can we have a "Real Life Mode" weekend? if you died your toon is replaced with a tombstone permanently :smirk: That would be a Permastealth DE weekend for me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 @"crepuscular.9047" said:can we have a "Real Life Mode" weekend? if you died your toon is replaced with a tombstone permanently :smirk: You’d swear that’s how it is now with how some avoid fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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