Ashen.2907 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 ****> @ROMANG.1903 said:@Nick Lentz.6982 said:@TheRandomGuy.7246 said:@Nick Lentz.6982 said:You know the great thing about gem store cosmetics? They are entirely optional.Not if you want to customize your mount. Sigh. Does that change them being optional.The entire game can be "optional". But making players pay this expensive for something that should have been on the base mounts (more than 1 poor dye slot) is just abusive.@Mea.5491 said:Dude, $20 for FIVE mount skins. In most MMOs, you pay $20 for ONE mount skin.But in others MMOs these are entirely different skins. New animations, new skull... This is just a recolour. Go on paint and make a smoky effect on the back of it. You're done.What ticks me is that Anet purposedly made a poor work on base mounts to make us buy the cash ones...No one can make you buy the new skins. Im sorry that you consider the mounts to be poor quality work. I cant agree. They look good to me, and paying for cosmetic options is integral to the game's business model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMANG.1903 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 @Ashen.2907 said:****> @ROMANG.1903 said:@Nick Lentz.6982 said:@TheRandomGuy.7246 said:@Nick Lentz.6982 said:You know the great thing about gem store cosmetics? They are entirely optional.Not if you want to customize your mount. Sigh. Does that change them being optional.The entire game can be "optional". But making players pay this expensive for something that should have been on the base mounts (more than 1 poor dye slot) is just abusive.@Mea.5491 said:Dude, $20 for FIVE mount skins. In most MMOs, you pay $20 for ONE mount skin.But in others MMOs these are entirely different skins. New animations, new skull... This is just a recolour. Go on paint and make a smoky effect on the back of it. You're done.What ticks me is that Anet purposedly made a poor work on base mounts to make us buy the cash ones...No one can make you buy the new skins. Im sorry that you consider the mounts to be poor quality work. I cant agree. They look good to me, and paying for cosmetic options is integral to the game's business model. They are great. But they intentionnally toned them down in order to make us buy. Shit, I paid for the expansion, it's not like the base mounts are free or even buyable with gold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverwing.8750 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I reckon they may be added to the Black Lion Chest Guaranteed Wardrobe Unlock in the future like gliders have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castlemanic.3198 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 My biggest disappointment is that the base mounts only have a single dye channel (and can't even dye the entire mount) where the halloween one has FOUR DYE CHANNELS.So they obviously plan to monetize future mount skins by saying "hey guys, these will have more dye channels that you can mess around with".Annoys me to no end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakaru.6583 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I think 20 euros is too much for just some skins.If they were new models I wouldnt have blinkef once before they had my money, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 @TheRandomGuy.7246 said:@Nick Lentz.6982 said:@TheRandomGuy.7246 said:@Nick Lentz.6982 said:You know the great thing about gem store cosmetics? They are entirely optional.Not if you want to customize your mount. Sigh. Does that change them being optional.Cash shop is the only way to customize mounts in a game built and sold around customization. About as optional and consumer friendly as AAA games in 2017 I guess.The gem - gold exchange allows you to get the mount skins without any outside investment.Also last time I checked, you can dye your base mounts. Does that not count as customisation?Finally, only because you want something does not make it less optional if it's not gameplay related or required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 ... I'm the only one who find them to be butt-ugly? At Halloween they are a novelty at best, and outside of Halloween I'd never use them, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 In capitalism, if one thinks the price is too high for an optional item, you can choose not to pay the price. It should be sufficient to say, "I don't want to pay 20 dollars or convert 460 gold to gems". There's no need to go wild with hyperbole and make accusations of "gouging" or "choosing prices while under the influence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokeenoppa.5384 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Does it matter how much they are? You dont have to buy them you know, im a working man so i bought them instantly. It is same thing in real Life, no one force you to buy those expensive clothes etc, but If you have the coin ofc you can enjoy those expensive things.Job or not, 20€ isnt much from something that you really want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charrbeque.8729 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 $20 for account-wide mount skins is way better than $25 single character waypoint unlocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmapolice.4193 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I am actually very happy with the price. If this was Elder Scrolls Online, the skins would be $40 each and only on sale for 24 hours. Twenty bucks for what would be considered 5 new mounts in other games is a fantastic price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMANG.1903 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 @Karmapolice.4193 said:I am actually very happy with the price. If this was Elder Scrolls Online, the skins would be $40 each and only on sale for 24 hours. Twenty bucks for what would be considered 5 new mounts in other games is a fantastic price.Stop comparing to others games. I'm comparing to what Anet used us to. To what I liked in GW2 since I started the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurfu.5623 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 We are not paying a monthly sub fee.. they have to make money to pay their people... relax... it's optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acheron.4576 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I don't mind the price, i just wish I could buy them seperately. There are a couple I don't care for while the others I really like. I would rather just get what I like for a reasonable price instead of getting stuff I don't like tacked on for a larger price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosleepdemon.1368 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 ITT: players who don't realise that "optional" content still affects players that don't have to buy it. A helpful hint kids, in order to get people to buy stuff, you make them want it. In order to make players want something, you twist their arm to make life without it suck, and you make the free stuff crap in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shena Fu.5792 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Cosmetics is the entire basis of their business model. Of course they'll exploit that department. Which includes selling bonuses for cosmetic customizations. All cosmetic is still optional. What colors other players dye their mounts does not improve their combat performance. So this does not impact those who don't have it. You're not disadvantaged if you don't have it; thus optional, superfluous, vain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 400g for 5 skins.... I don't see the problem (seriously!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar Min.5834 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 @KrHome.1920 said:400g for 5 skins.... I don't see the problem (seriously!).It's 400g for EACH skin, before discount. But you have to buy all five in a bundle.Personally, I don't like them. They look like bones painted on black skins, not realistic enough : P Anyway, I never like dark, gothic stuff. But I am glad to see that many players like them. Gemstones items to me are totally optional; buy if you like them, don't buy if you don't like or feel that they are not worthy.edit: typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckle Joe.7408 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 @Mea.5491 said:Dude, $20 for FIVE mount skins. In most MMOs, you pay $20 for ONE mount skin.And that one mount has a different model, different animations, different effects and different sounds... here, they just painted the base mounts black and then painted bones on them. So this is how its going to be lol, same mounts but paint-overs. I was hoping for complete different creatures (Example: Raport gets a bonebreaker or mordrem teragriff skin)$20 dolalr mount in FF14:http://www.mogsales.com/images/com_hikashop/upload/02002.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckle Joe.7408 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I logged in to buy the skins and realised all the skins looked the same.... Just painted on skeleton bones.... I was expecting a Centaur or something to replace raptor, a little Wyvern to replace griffon and so on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fengzhou.9853 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 For the flexibility in customization for EVERY mount we have access to, this is beyond a good deal. I was more than happy to give them 20 dollars for them. They're neat and I hope to see more in the future, hopefully different creature skins. They just proved how simple it is to pull off with these. It shall be magnificent! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar Min.5834 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 @Knuckle Joe.7408 said:@Mea.5491 said:Dude, $20 for FIVE mount skins. In most MMOs, you pay $20 for ONE mount skin.And that one mount has a different model, different animations, different effects and different sounds... here, they just painted the base mounts black and then painted bones on them. So this is how its going to be lol, same mounts but paint-overs. I was hoping for complete different creatures (Example: Raport gets a bonebreaker or mordrem teragriff skin)$20 dolalr mount in FF14:http://www.mogsales.com/images/com_hikashop/upload/02002.pngThat skin looks awesome ! But I wish Anet could come out with something cute for flying mount, like that flying dog with the big flapping ears in Never Ending Story movies : D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrebX.6498 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 @Nick Lentz.6982 said:You know the great thing about gem store cosmetics? They are entirely optional.You know what's also great about Gem store cosmetics? They're digital. They have no cost of manufacture or distribution.Surely they could have made that at least a little more available, and Im sure it'd even make them more money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvari.2953 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 @Knuckle Joe.7408 said:@Mea.5491 said:Dude, $20 for FIVE mount skins. In most MMOs, you pay $20 for ONE mount skin.And that one mount has a different model, different animations, different effects and different sounds.$20 dolalr mount in FF14As an MMO veteran and former MMO hopper who has tried nearly every online game in the past decade, I can safely say that mount RECOLORS cost TONS of money in LOTS of games, they CANNOT BE DYED and they are CHARACTER BOUND. In GW2, you only have to buy mount skins once and use thousands of unique color combinations on them. Also, your precious FF14 costs $15 a month, you MUST pay just to be able to play PLUS you have to spend extra money on fluff... Meanwhile, GW2 gives all core content for free and sells OPTIONAL fluff for $20. Still waaay better than silly monthly fees, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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