Colin.4568 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 If the owner is stealthed, then so should be the miniature. This would also help your own messaging system by removing 1/10th of the messages in WvW. 2 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subversiontwo.7501 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 What's next, do we have to turn off tonics because the PvE boys can't get out of their frogs and snowballs? 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, subversiontwo.7501 said: What's next, do we have to turn off tonics because the PvE boys can't get out of their frogs and snowballs? Leave the frogs out of this if you know what is good for you…. Besides, they also pop kites. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telgum.6071 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 If you are unable to disable your mini, you don't deserve to get camps, dailies or whatever you do in WvW. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) No, take off your minipet they have no place in wvw, actually wait, leave it on my dear enemy. 😈 Edited February 28, 2022 by Xenesis.6389 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loke.1429 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 have my downvote. not worth the devtime 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) to be fair... miniatures should be stealthed as soon as the owner is stealthed.... but acually... GiT gUD soN! 😄 no honestly you shouldnt use miniature in wvw... they produce lag anyways^^ catmander is POG tho^^ Edited February 25, 2022 by Sahne.6950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin.4501 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Colin.4568 said: If the owner is stealthed, then so should be the miniature. This would also help your own messaging system by removing 1/10th of the messages in WvW. Umm no? Minis are the first indicator of whether or not the enemy player in front of you is an actual WvW player or just a pip farmer. Without this, how will us solo roamers know if we can easily win a 1v4 or not?? We don't just want visible minis alongside stealthed players in WvW, we NEED visible minis alongside stealthed players in WvW! And how would this help the messaging system?? Minis are probably used by less than 3% of the players in WvW including all the pip-farmers, afkers, and PvErs...and that's honestly probably a high estimate. I haven't seen anyone with a mini in WvW in the past several months. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Honestly I think minis should be disabled by default in WvW, there is no real reason for them to be out in that content and the only reason mine ever is is because I CBA to turn it off every time I go there and turn it back on when I leave. I'd love it if my mini auto disables when going to WvW and auto enables when I go back to PvE. Or hell, flat out disabling them completely in WvW wouldn't be a bad idea either, they only add to the screen clutter there anyway. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Disable them by default. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin.4568 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 I was trying to be considerate of other players. Right now they can have their miniature, so that way no one loses anything and everyone's happy. But sure. disabling them in WvW also works fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausar.9542 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 actually I didnt know enemies could see minis. Nothing in the game tells you this. So I always assumed only Allies can see them, and that they definitely dont show when in stealth. But this game has lots of poorly thought out game designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faccina.5091 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 im running around with my mini chicken in wvw 🤠 🐔 anyway theres a function somewhere that load the mini they can put an if there if pve || (wvw && isnotenemy) loadmini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luranni.9470 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 But.... being trashtalked and called a hacker because some permstealth meme-eye forgot to hide their mini is funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPotato.7456 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Minis needs to be removed from WvW. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroud.2307 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Yo, don't remove my mini. I've had him as my little buddy for 8 years. To heck with all of you hating on them. In all seriousness, I think the best option would be to make them invisible strictly to enemy players. I personally like having the option to use toys in WvW. As long as it isn't affecting combat, I see no reason for it to be removed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD.4673 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Why do people even use them to begin with? It's just a dumping ground of used and unused character models. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroud.2307 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, LSD.4673 said: Why do people even use them to begin with? It's just a dumping ground of used and unused character models. Why do people stack Infusions. Why do PvP players think the only dye that exists is Shadow Abyss. Why do people use Titles that have no prestige. The answer to all of those is that people like them. I understand Minis have an effect on performance, but they're disabled by default when there are enough players on the map. There's no reason to want them removed other than people thinking they're pointless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boh.4568 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Real gamers roam on thief with their mini big snowball enabled. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Shroud.2307 said: Yo, don't remove my mini. I've had him as my little buddy for 8 years. To heck with all of you hating on them. In all seriousness, I think the best option would be to make them invisible strictly to enemy players. I personally like having the option to use toys in WvW. As long as it isn't affecting combat, I see no reason for it to be removed. That would be ok with me as well. I really like mini's, could even call me a casual collector to some degree (I have around 60% of them all) They're just a bit annoying in competitive if you have to manually turn them on and off all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joneirikb.7506 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Another useful option: Let each player disable all pets for themselves. Another missing feature in the games complete lack of ways to deal with silly bling effects. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikharzeeh.8016 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 minis should be disabled when entering wvw, automatically. as simple. stealthing makes yet enough problems. if now also minis enter and leave stealth it creates even more fps issues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 12 hours ago, joneirikb.7506 said: Another useful option: Let each player disable all pets for themselves. Another missing feature in the games complete lack of ways to deal with silly bling effects. ….which exists.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinmir.6504 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) On 2/25/2022 at 9:19 PM, Ronin.4501 said: Umm no? Minis are the first indicator of whether or not the enemy player in front of you is an actual WvW player or just a pip farmer. Without this, how will us solo roamers know if we can easily win a 1v4 or not?? We don't just want visible minis alongside stealthed players in WvW, we NEED visible minis alongside stealthed players in WvW! And how would this help the messaging system?? Minis are probably used by less than 3% of the players in WvW including all the pip-farmers, afkers, and PvErs...and that's honestly probably a high estimate. I haven't seen anyone with a mini in WvW in the past several months. Got me thinking, if you were running a build that didn't use stealth. Might be a good trap. Enemy sees miniatures, thinks it will be an easy fight... Hey, could even be a non stealth group using noisy mini's like the super banana. They can't know what they're doing... Might try that some day. As for messaging, I never thought that was a problem anyway. We're allowed to chat. Nothing against when the PvEers say, "[Gift Of Battle] yay I can stop playing WvW now." but a message saying "Just so you know, if you stealth with your mini enabled enemies will see it." Is a lot more helpful, especially if the player with the mini genuinely wants to learn WvW. The chat box is there to be used. I was wondering about legendary effects. What I see with my scrapper holding Juggernaut https://i.imgur.com/0LGZMmG.jpg Hopefully that isn't what the enemy sees. My WvW scrapper doesn't use Juggernaut anyway, had Zojja's Warhammer, transmuted to Super Hammer long before I got Juggernaut. And just kept using it. Even if that is what they see, Juggernaut is free to transmute. With how easy minis are to hide similar principle. hey, minis have always been free to hide, free legendary transmutes is a more recent addition. If I go in to battle with Juggernaut, if my armour is shown in stealth and I can't be bothered to transmute it for free to a hammer without effects, then, hey, my fault enemies can see me. Feel free to run with a mini in WvW, but accept that enemies will see it. Edited February 28, 2022 by Sinmir.6504 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzi.8217 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I don't think that this is a good idea in general. There are also many (predominantly new) players that can be seen are still on mounts during stealth, are they going to suggest to make mounts invisible too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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