Random dude.5089 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 i heared a lot of people complaining about how boring the game became , ofc talking about veterans , including me , im actualy find the game lacking objectives on your characters , exotic gear is legit same as ascendent , only different is that you get agony resistance , and i heared that anet wanna make it account wide , which is even worst , cause if you get once ascendent gear your legit almost finished in terme of gearing , so why not make every expansion a new gear type so people get a fresh experience and find a new reason to grind , which make it more enjoyable , anet right now giving so much priority to new players , which is good but leaving the rest behind ? 2 2 43 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul.9651 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Well you are gonna get bombarded on forums with "no" , "just find what you enjoy this isnt wow with gear treadmill" or how "toxic" it would be.. but i agree for veterans this game lacks of any type of progresion.. hell if not something with a gear they should make tier 5 fractals or anything else like that to make people to progress not with the gear but with content itself.. 1 21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoni.7015 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Denver.4621 said: so why not make every expansion a new gear type so people get a fresh experience and find a new reason to grind , which make it more enjoyable So every expansion I have to get new legendary armor? No thanks, that’s not enjoyable. Edited January 13, 2023 by yoni.7015 28 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 There are issues with the game, but a new gear type could be a nail in the coffin. As a day one veteran, I agree the emphasis feels like it’s on new players, but a new gear to grind for, that’s a huge No from me. GW2 specifically was designed to avoid that and the ascended rollout a couple of years after launch was so controversial, it would be unwise to repeat that fiasco again for virtually no gain. 19 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythical.6315 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 55 minutes ago, Denver.4621 said: i heared a lot of people complaining about how boring the game became , ofc talking about veterans , including me , im actualy find the game lacking objectives on your characters , exotic gear is legit same as ascendent , only different is that you get agony resistance , and i heared that anet wanna make it account wide , which is even worst , cause if you get once ascendent gear your legit almost finished in terme of gearing , so why not make every expansion a new gear type so people get a fresh experience and find a new reason to grind , which make it more enjoyable , anet right now giving so much priority to new players , which is good but leaving the rest behind ? Are you really a veteran? First off, it’s ascended gear, not ascendant. Secondly, there is a stat difference between exotic and ascended gear. 17 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Brilliant idea. Just add a gear treadmill to this game. Why hasn't anyone thought of this idea before? You must be some sort of game design prodigy. Truly amazing that people played this for 10 years despite such a crucial element being missing. Edited January 13, 2023 by Khisanth.2948 2 2 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul.9651 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Khisanth.2948 said: Brilliant idea. Just add a gear treadmill to this game. Why hasn't anyone thought of this idea before? You must be some sort of game design prodigy. Truly amazing that people played this for 10 years despite such a crucial element being missing. Or instead of gear just make content which scales infinitely 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Denver.4621 said: a new reason to grind , which make it more enjoyable And here I thought I had read many posts lamenting grinding in the game. Silly me! 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev.1984 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Denver.4621 said: i heared a lot of people complaining about how boring the game became I give you the solution, keep progression as it is, but instead of putting everything on the gem store, design some stuff that can be unlockable through achievement playing the game. Like mounts skins. This could even be a good idea to bring dungeons back. 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, soul.9651 said: Or instead of gear just make content which scales infinitely You got anything less vague? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberzombie.7348 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 While I can't speak for everyone, as a veteran it gets tiresome being predisposed into a heroic murder hobo with the only thing to look forward to is new shinies for 10 years. I'm already set with my builds so new gear isn't much of a motive and I like the horizontal progression. So I'd be peeved if a build I spent gold and several years of experimentation be rendered sup-par out of nowhere. What's really lacking is that casual PvE, and PvP/WvW hasn't had any fresh content for a while. Outside of fishing. 5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Zen.9364 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Denver.4621 said: i heared a lot of people complaining about how boring the game became , ofc talking about veterans , including me , im actualy find the game lacking objectives on your characters , exotic gear is legit same as ascendent , only different is that you get agony resistance , and i heared that anet wanna make it account wide , which is even worst , cause if you get once ascendent gear your legit almost finished in terme of gearing , so why not make every expansion a new gear type so people get a fresh experience and find a new reason to grind , which make it more enjoyable , anet right now giving so much priority to new players , which is good but leaving the rest behind ? This game is pretty boring. Your suggestion wouldn’t make it any less so. However, if you are only playing for rewards, and are willing to grind the game for the rewards, then is the game really that boring? I mean, how many hours are you willing to sink into boring content for a reward you want? Maybe the game isn’t that boring… You suggest the game is lacking in objectives for your character but we have the Achievements Panel, which gives us a wide variety of things to try and get. That includes Legendary Armor and Weapons, Armor and Weapon skins, Titles and a variety of other in game items and currencies. Considering that there are hundreds if not thousands of hours of available playtime based around Achievements, it looks like there is a lot of guidance for player objectives in GW2. 5 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul.9651 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Khisanth.2948 said: You got anything less vague? I mean something like fractals and tiers but you can go further and progress as far as your skills let you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev.1984 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Mungo Zen.9364 said: we have the Achievements Panel, which gives us a wide variety of things to try and get This is one of the most boring system this game has, not just for the system, but the rewards are pathetic. Sometimes you end up doing a lot of things for just 1 AP, really? Not to mention that it seems like they only add like 2 or 3 achievements that worth doing per expansions. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I've never seen the appeal of having to grind for gear (or stats or levels or whatever) in any game. I don't find being told I'm not allowed into the parts of the game I'm interested in until I've repeatedly some other part enough times fun. Yes it means it takes longer to get to the interesting parts, but I don't see that as a good thing. The point of a game is to have fun, not just kill time. I actually found it quite exciting when I got a character to level 80 and got a full set of exotic equipment (ascended didn't exist then) because it meant I could stop worrying if they were strong enough for what I wanted to do and could just play whatever I felt like, whenever I wanted to. 10 years on I wouldn't want to change that, I like that when an expansion or other new release comes out I can play it at my own pace and focus on the parts which interest me, not repeating each bit until the game has decided I'm ready to carry on. As other people have mentioned there's a lot of stuff to do in this game. I think it helps that I've never expected it to be my sole source of entertainment, or even my only game, but I've never felt like I didn't have anything to do, usually the only problem is deciding what I feel like doing at the time. 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev.1984 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Danikat.8537 said: The point of a game is to have fun, not just kill time. Well every time i finish a legendary i feel more like a relief than a joy to tell you the true. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farohna.6247 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Not grinding for gear is one of GW2's charms. After playing WoW for a decade, and every expansion doing the mad race to max level and gearing again, GW2 is like fresh air. Frees up time to do...well...fun stuff for the sake of fun stuff. Instead of gear, there are new achievements, new infusions, new skins, etc. Not having to do mandatory content to achieve that is quite nice. So I think I'll pass on the idea OP. Edited January 13, 2023 by Farohna.6247 Oopsie hit enter too soon 15 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Denver.4621 said: i heared a lot of people complaining about how boring the game became , ofc talking about veterans , including me , im actualy find the game lacking objectives on your characters , exotic gear is legit same as ascendent , only different is that you get agony resistance , and i heared that anet wanna make it account wide , which is even worst , cause if you get once ascendent gear your legit almost finished in terme of gearing , so why not make every expansion a new gear type so people get a fresh experience and find a new reason to grind , which make it more enjoyable , anet right now giving so much priority to new players , which is good but leaving the rest behind ? Errr.... Exotic gear stats are not the same as ascended gear stats. Ascended has the same stats as legendary gear. You are confusing these three. Never was there any rumor of making ascended gear account-wide. Legendary gear has been made account-wide. Again, you are confusing some facts. 7 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said: Errr.... Exotic gear stats are not the same as ascended gear stats. Ascended has the same stats as legendary gear. You are confusing these three. Never was there any rumor of making ascended gear account-wide. Legendary gear has been made account-wide. Again, you are confusing some facts. Well teapot speculated that Anet might be looking into it in a recent youtube video of his but there have not been any other talk about account wide agony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Linken.6345 said: Well teapot speculated that Anet might be looking into it in a recent youtube video of his but there have not been any other talk about account wide agony. Are you talking about Infusions being made account-wide? Edit: This must be the video you are referring to. I certainly hope those of is who own a dozen full sets of Infusions will get compensated or at least be allowed to sell our attribute infusions if that happens. Edited January 13, 2023 by Ashantara.8731 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einsof.1457 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) I've got 4000 hours clocked and have an imsane amount of things still to do...are we playing the same game? Sounds like you'd have more fun in a traditional subscription based gear treadmill game. That's not gw2. Edited January 13, 2023 by Einsof.1457 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue.8235 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 It seems one of B. F. Skinner's pigeons got loose again. There's more to video games than a Skinner Box. Also, the actual vertical progression of this game is the skill of the human player, not gear. Gearing is mindless and actual skill requires cognition and practice. I'd rather have the cognition. 4 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, soul.9651 said: I mean something like fractals and tiers but you can go further and progress as far as your skills let you. Heh so like how fractals used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) There's something in this game called legendary gear, and there's alot of it. I recommend looking into it! Edited January 15, 2023 by Mariyuuna.6508 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 45 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said: Are you talking about Infusions being made account-wide? Edit: This must be the video you are referring to. I certainly hope those of is who own a dozen full sets of Infusions will get compensated or at least be allowed to sell our attribute infusions if that happens. Yea it was also brought up in a tea time with sneb and two other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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