Stand The Wall.6987 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 just curiouseditfor all the junior detectives out there; yes, 1 shots also mean a bunch of skills that kill a player in a very short time frame. I would also add combos that take away 75% of hp making re-sustain impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonecap.4105 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 No such thing as one shot anymore, but it would be silly to remove Burst because that’s literally the only counter some builds have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Who says a 1 shot build is a meme or only meant for farming “noobies” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Edit Duplicated post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 There is a reason mostly salties play those builds :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flandre.2870 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 xxxxxxxxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 One shots aren't one shots anymore, and classes can't pull them off without running glass. I fought a glass warrior a while back who surprise instagibed our entire team in the first mid fight. It caught us off guard, but we adapted and were able to play around her easily for the rest of the match. One mistake and she was dead. If you want to run a high risk high reward build, more power to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 im sold on the meme part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysmir.4986 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 It's high risk high reward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 @Ysmir.4986 said:It's high risk high reward@Kuma.1503 said:If you want to run a high risk high reward build, more power to you. They aren't high risk high reward at all, they are just lucky builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 what builds are 1shot right now, tell me, I wanna play them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegudonNA.4630 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 @Khalisto.5780 said:what builds are 1shot right now, tell me, I wanna play themOverheat holo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 If the one shot uses up a fair amount of the classes traits and then utility skills to actually pull it off while running glass then it's OK in my book.Where one shot builds are not OK is when it's all loaded onto 1 skill and then they have a full 2 weapons, all utility, elite and heal while multiple helpful traits onto those to fight with and multiple defences.Risk vs Reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 @Flandre.2870 said:only kitten players main oneshot specschange my mindThere was a point where I was so bored with this game, that only the upset of enemies who got memed on kept me around. What is a oneshot spec in this meta though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asuran.5469 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 There are no 1 shots. There are only big bursts that kill in 1 burst.Yes it is ok, as long as the build doing it can also die in 1 burst from mid to low damage bruisers.That's how the balance should be about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saerni.2584 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 One shot is usually a series of skills. While Mesmer might have a series that all hit at the same time there aren’t too many that actually one shot.And with the sustain going around atm the only way anyone is dying is if their opponents can actually do their entire health bar over a sequence of skills (half hp if you are targeting a necro lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Kitsunee.4620 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 shot is an archetype that should always exist in the game, but never be meta.Personally I think that's the way it should be.Right now it's really good since in 2v2s you can more directly adapt to the 1shot and a 1 shot build has to dedicate alot of resources into actually killing someone in 2 shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I'm kinda in the middle.If they do lots damage but have really low sustain, like the way rangers have to do to deal with those 14k mauls or whatever, makes sense.One-shot from invis? noOne-shots while spamming cc and going ham while also having defense? no.I can forgive multiple classes for having massive dmg.Warriors: You can kinda see where their rifle shots are going, so it might very well be possible to evade it.Rangers with longbow 3:Its channeling so you can evade out of its range and can hide behind. and maul can also be evaded the same with its pet attack.I haven't figured out how to deal with mesmers just yet, they are tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution.5409 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I like them, there is really no reason why a player who uses 5 or more skills in a short time shouldn't defeat the opponent quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNOwen.7132 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Id rather we didnt have meme oneshot builds. Or perhaps, to put it better, no instant oneshot without reaction. Something like getting "oneshot" by photonic blasting module or a max malice Deaths Judgment or some Churning Earth nonsense is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Substance E.4852 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 This is a game that gives every class 2 free invulnerability windows to avoid skill damage/effects entirelyThe idea that you shouldn't be able to build in such a way that you both rely heavily on those as well as heavily punish those who don't use them is sillyPeople just get cranky because said meme builds often gank people who are already distracted and no one enjoys that so they take it out on the build when they probably would have lost the 2v1 no matter what showed upThe more you move from "high risk, high reward" the less rotations matter and the more dull combat becomes. It's why people hate fighting bunker builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 So long it's not coming from stealth or 1500 range I'm fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 @Flandre.2870 said:only kitten players main oneshot specschange my mindBig words from someone abusing every broken spec to the fullest extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar.3568 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 The only things that do one shot can do nothing else than one shot (at least for soulbeast)So yeah it can stay,because who ever is using it, is helping the enemy's instead of his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 interesting interesting. good info, didn't think the community would be so split on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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