Cronos.6532 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Hey, if the community wants it, ArenaNet might change their mind and turn it around before the Steam release. We pay, we say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galmac.4680 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 what question is this? Game is game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogiepop Void.6473 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 This is not something ANet can do anything about. Steam won't let them. If they are on steam, this has to happen. All MMOs on steam have the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronos.6532 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:This is not something ANet can do anything about. Steam won't let them. If they are on steam, this has to happen. All MMOs on steam have the same thing.You'll have to explain; it's definitely allowed to have games on Steam that require or allow you to create an account for another service to play. Unless it's a new policy developers have to abide by to get a game on Steam, as there are many new and old games (such as the original Guild Wars and MapleStory) that do not have the same thing. New games that need other accounts include titles published by Microsoft, Ubisoft, and EA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astyrah.4015 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:This is not something ANet can do anything about. Steam won't let them. If they are on steam, this has to happen. All MMOs on steam have the same thing.not necessarily, SWTOR and PSO2 both mmos that were recently put up on steam, you can still use your existing account from another platform/non-steam. though not MMORPGs, Warframe and Path of Exile allows the same (linking/un-linking or simply logging in from steam with steam integration) or like Destiny 2 where you can cross-save between console and steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b k.1648 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 The probable reason why they don't support this is because Steam takes something like a 20% cut of the sales through their platform, so if someone plays a pre-existing account through Steam, ANet is making a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Why would you?? The less one depends on a third party platform the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 There's almost certainly a reason we aren't privy to. A poll isn't going to change that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 What benefit is there to going through Steam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westenev.5289 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 @Ayrilana.1396 said:What benefit is there to going through Steam?None, afaik, besides the fact the platform is good for advertising... I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronos.6532 Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 @Ayrilana.1396 said:What benefit is there to going through Steam?Among other less important community features: Ability to use Steam Wallet for Gem Store purchases, earn sellable Trading Cards and other rewards as effective rebates on all Gem Store purchases, more payment methods for Gem Store purchases, ability to sell items from other games for Steam Wallet to fund Gem Store purchases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronos.6532 Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 @Randulf.7614 said:There's almost certainly a reason we aren't privy to. A poll isn't going to change thatEnough support or outrage can cause change! That's what the forums are for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tukaram.8256 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 If I have a regular account why would I need to use Steam? (serious question)I would imagine it is a money issue. Steam & NC Soft probably have agreements to sell stuff on their own platform... so you have to play/pay one or the other. But we can all play together, so no worries. Seems like a non-issue to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Maybe it's on steam side, I suppose it was one of the points of their "contract". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Yes we should and other mmorpgs had no issues, i can guarantee its to do with GEMS.. I have a feeling its because of other countries getting cheaper Gems on steam.. as money is already converted there, not forced to use USD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 @Ashantara.8731 said:Why would you?? The less one depends on a third party platform the better.Because if the Gems are cheaper to buy for the rest of the world we would use that over the standard account. Many customers aren't American, we get rorted over here in conversion rates for Gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seera.5916 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 @Dante.1508 said:Yes we should and other mmorpgs had no issues, i can guarantee its to do with GEMS.. I have a feeling its because of other countries getting cheaper Gems on steam.. as money is already converted there, not forced to use USD.FFXIV has the same set up. So some MMO's do have that problem.Either all Steam or all FFXIV site, you can't mix or match or launch the game from any but the appropriate launcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronos.6532 Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 Also probably best to allow it so the Steam review score of Gw2 doesn't tank, scaring away new players. Lots of people are going to give Guild Wars 2 negative reviews not only upon Steam release, but for a long time after, if they're not able to use their existing account. Best to avoid that. Most of the people I talked to in-game said they were looking forward to the Steam release, but they didn't read the part where existing accounts can't be used. They're gon' be mad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Of course not. The yes option is ludicrous.Now, had the question been, "would it be nice to use existing accounts with the Steam version of GW2," that would be a different matter entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraude.2107 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 @Ayrilana.1396 said:What benefit is there to going through Steam?Numbers. Simply put, steam lists the amount of players online at any given time. Now this is a big deal. Why? Someone looks at the store page of Guild Wars 2, is interested but unsure so clicks on Community Hub. In the top right, it shows players playing right now. Using Ark as an example, right now there are 32k in game. Naturally your mind will go, oh so a nice amount of people are playing, I'll give it a go. Now imagine clicking that and seeing only 500 people in game. For an MMO, you will go oh....so not that many people to play with, I'll pass. Thing is, you don't know that that 500 is only a small margin and don't see the other 30k playing with original accounts.That's one of the benefits of Steam and steam integration of OG accounts. Like ESO on steam right now has 5k people playing and that whole reason is that people linked their already existing accounts to steam. If they hadn't allowed that, it would be much lower in my opinion.Con of Steam:They want a bite of everything. There's a reason why games like Warframe will send you to their own website to buy their cash-shop currency. Because steam wants a piece of that pie. Steam wants a piece of the sale price for the game as well. See, even though ESO allows linking an existing account to steam to play, you still need to buy the steam version of the game as well, in essence, you'd pay for the game twice. Something that might not sit well with people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Steam gets a 30% cut so unless the gem store sales are marked up by that amount as a surcharge, the profit from that platform is going to be much lower.If you live outside USA/EU I suppose you could use the Steam account to gift your actual account though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anninke.7469 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I miss the "I don't care" option since I, well, don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friday.7864 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 You will probably have to pay more for gems on Steam since they take 30% of revenueWhy you would want to do that is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex.3602 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I don't see any suggestion in the OP or this poll for gems to be available for purchase on steam, and not exclusively through the in-game store. If this was the case then a compulsory revenue cut for steam may be a valid point. Have I missed something? If the poll is only asking whether it would be good if the option to use steam was also available for existing players and not only new ones, then I think it would be nice to have this option for all the players if it is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlenex.7901 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I think this is a good idea - it'd be easier to group up with friends on leading PC gaming platform. Same goes for better integration with GeForce NOW service. Easier to stream your gameplay etc. So there is plenty of consumer friendly features... Player base boost as a bonus. I understand that the income is cut by 30%, but existing accounts already paid ANET 100% for all those years. It'd be very friendly of ANET to allow choosing the best platform for their players.Also there is nothing that prevents them of making marketing promotions, that keeping non-steam account gives them 100% income - this is a great place to provide additional gifts for keeping ANET-native account. Overall I think that conversion of steam/anet-native account would be very welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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