kharmin.7683 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Gibson.4036 said: The mods are very responsive to reports that request new threads be merged into a previous thread on the topic. True, but again, if people used the search feature then others wouldn't have to report duplicate threads and mods wouldn't have to then merge them. /shrug 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, kharmin.7683 said: True, but again, if people used the search feature then others wouldn't have to report duplicate threads and mods wouldn't have to then merge them. /shrug That's true, and there's no gurantee that people will go back and read the thread they've been merged into. Whataya do? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakaa.7018 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Put the lores and living stories aside, if a player can already turn into another game model by using item such the tonic, technically speaking, we should be able to change from say race A to B permanently? To fix the living stories 'issue', just add a line into our personal diary, "the character drank a potion by accident one night, and he/she turned into an asura permanently..." done.People been requesting for this for 10 years, I don't believe it's 101% 'impossible', have Anet even tried? At all? Edited September 9, 2022 by Dakaa.7018 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayra.7405 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Because this is - ancient code - story and achievements and race skills available depend on the race. (this isn't the case for the available cosmetics) 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakaa.7018 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Yeah, but the character's appreance does not have be tied to the character's actual race, do you see what I mean? Edited September 9, 2022 by Dakaa.7018 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 And even if race change WAS impossible... Why is profession change not possible? 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zohane.7208 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dakaa.7018 said: Put the lores and living stories aside, if a player can already turn into another game model by using item such the tonic, technically speaking, we should be able to change from say race A to B permanently? To fix the living stories 'issue', just add a line into our personal diary, "the character drank a potion by accident one night, and he/she turned into an asura permanently..." done. People been requesting for this for 10 years, I don't believe it's 101% 'impossible', have Anet even tried? At all? I believe it's actually technically not possible since Anet hard-coded the race (and profession?) into the character's data so that quite possibly data structures in the data are different for different races and such. I seem to recall Anet saying that changing this would almost guaranteed lead to corrupted character data, and chaos would emerge from there. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayra.7405 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Alts are useful, you can have a maximum of 69 char-slots per account. Make a new char if you like a different race. Edited September 9, 2022 by Dayra.7405 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury ranique.2170 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dakaa.7018 said: Yeah, but the character's appreance does not have be tied to the character's actual race, do you see what I mean? true, but there is also racial armor and models for race. In the datafile is a single cell for race. This detemines both the story and racial skills as well as the armor models to be used of each version of the armors and which sets are available. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayra.7405 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, mercury ranique.2170 said: true, but there is also racial armor and models for race. And voice acting, annimations and ... Edited September 9, 2022 by Dayra.7405 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I don't think we've ever been given any details (and it wouldn't mean much to me if we were) but from what I've seen in previous discussions it seems to be a limitation in the way the game is coded rather than worrying about details like the story journal looking strange. (Since that only affects the player and they're the one who would choose to make the change I suspect Anet would say it's just something you need to live with.) I seem to remember hearing that they tested it once and it made the character literally unplayable, as in you couldn't log into them at all because the game would crash, and they couldn't find any way to prevent that happening. They have occasionally found ways to do things which used to be impossible, like changing your account name, so it might be something they're able to get working eventually, but I certainly wouldn't want them to offer it if there's any risk of breaking the character in the process. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrike Arghast.3856 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 It's really not that hard to level to 80 - a few days' work at most. Since mount and gear are account rather than character-bound, it's not that much effort to get a new toon "on its feet," so to speak. Yes, obviously there is more to it than that - having to run around and grab hero points again, and potentially even play some of the story. But this isn't an EVE Online-like investment where rerolling is literally throwing away years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianth Moonlight.6453 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 >make new character >use lvl 80 boost >ignore personal story >do what you do already >profit 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labjax.2465 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) I'm curious the reasons people want this vs. making a new character, if that could provide any kind of insight into a possible alternative solution. For example, the main reason I'd want this is so I don't lose character age for birthday gifts. I doubt I will ever buy bag or template slots, but if I had any, I also wouldn't want to lose that investment. OTOH, I don't think I'd care much if I lost story completion (in other words, that aspect doesn't hold me back from deleting and making a new character, but the other things would). Edited September 9, 2022 by Labjax.2465 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuavePuppy.2809 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Has it even been a week since the last thread about this? 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 And people yell at me for suggesting the posters use the forums search function. 1 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerncarl.2740 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, kharmin.7683 said: And people yell at me for suggesting the posters use the forums search function. It doesn't really matter if people want to discuss topics that have already been discussed. Peoples minds change and new players come onto the forums. Also they may have missed the discussion and don't want to comment on a dead thread that no one will respond too. Just don't respond or read another thread if you've seen it before it's not like there's a huge amount of activity in the guild wars 2 discussion thread anywayyyyyyyy. More the merrier. 3 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya.9075 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 It would be funny to see a norn named “miss floof tails” or a charr named “mr saladface” after a race change. So just for that I’ll support adding it. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Arianth Moonlight.6453 said: >make new character >use lvl 80 boost >ignore personal story >do what you do already >profit Or rather: Store gear/inventory in bank->delete your character->create a new character of a different race with same name and class->instalevel to 80 and instaunlock all elites->grab your gear/inventory from the bank. Bonus points for repurchasing all character gempurchases (bagslots, templates). Even more bonus points for redoing all stories exactly to the point your previous character was. Congratulations, you've race changed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoguil.7320 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Zohane.7208 said: I believe it's actually technically not possible [...] It's a piece of software and therefore never really a question of possible or not possible. It's all about return of investment. Devs have repeatedly explained race change would be difficult, meaning: Anet would have to put a lot of effort into it, and most probably the demand for a feature like this isn't big enough to justify the development ressources. Business 101. Personally I don't get it why anybody would ask for that at all. But I'm probably to much into the R of RPG. My Norn characters have distinct Norn (or nordic) names, my Charr names follow Charr naming conventions. I don't play toons named "xxXSuperMariosCousinXxx" or something like that, it would break my immersion. If I want to play some new character, different race, different gender, different profession I simply create one and level them up. Even without boosters it's insanely fast pace levelling now with the new achievements and their xp gain. So I can't really imagine the demand for a race change option in gem store would be big enough. But that's a completely uneducated guess. Another point to consider: How many people buying a race change voucher in gem store would later demand a refund for gear they can't use any longer because it's culture locked? That's even more an issue with profession change - people whining afterwards they can't use their expensive legandary heavy armour any longer after switching to a class wearing medium? It would happen for sure, if something is really unavoidable in this world it's people being stupid. And support would have to deal with them in some way, wouldn't they? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkTacoLover.7603 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 At this point, after 9001 threads in 10 years about things that are "sorrywecantfixthat", i cant even imagine the mess they did 🤦♂️ I really wish to see the source code 😮 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, kharmin.7683 said: And people yell at me for suggesting the posters use the forums search function. Maybe, just maybe, people really want this function, and investing in it would be a good idea? Just maybe? Wild idea, I know. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Shrike Arghast.3856 said: . Since mount and gear are account rather than character-bound Ascended and legendary gear are account bound but exotics and lower are generally soulbound to one character. OP, it isnt necessarily a matter of truly impossible but rather how much would it cost to do (in terms of time, energy, payroll, opportunity cost, etc) relative to what they might expect to see as a return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega.6801 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 yawn. yadayada search function, yadayada many such threads, all answers are there. inb4 they did mounts, yada yada got to weigh costs against ioncome and anet probably did that and then decided to pay that money to someone to make a few fishing rod skins yada same old same old... Also they can sell you character slots which is probably easier and cheaper than making race change possible. Also, also race doesn't matter outside of the looks. Also, also, also just think about what characters you want to create and you will create less but higher quality toons which will make you more unique and hopefully happier. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkTacoLover.7603 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, lokh.2695 said: Also, also race doesn't matter outside of the looks. Theres also some epical racial skills 😮 Spoiler 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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