GoingMenthol.7281 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Genesis.8572 said: I like the spec. Hate the name. Will: Hi, my name's Will Guardian: WHAT DID YOU SAY!? Elite Specialisation - Willbender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneQR.7412 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Look really rad. Utilities are probably physical. The virtues look really cool. If themtraits rockutoo i say bye bye FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.8572 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, GoingMenthol.7281 said: Will: Hi, my name's Will Guardian: WHAT DID YOU SAY!? Elite Specialisation - Willbender My Guardian's name really is 'Will.' 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronoPinoyX.7923 Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Genesis.8572 said: My Guardian's name really is 'Will.' "Prepare to BEND" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harak.8397 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 0 for 3 for the naming department but this looks interesting to play. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymnad.9023 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) Most I got out of the trailer was flashy animations and flashy effects. I do not dislike it, it is just that unlike necro I have no idea what is a mechanic, a utility, a weapon. Edited August 12, 2021 by aymnad.9023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediahead.3542 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Genesis.8572 said: I like the spec. Hate the name. It's not the worst name they could've come up with, but personally I would've gone with Avenger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harak.8397 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) "If a protector of the Canthan throne has to "bend the will" of people... is that throne legitimate? Am I reading too much into this ? Anyway less ominous might have suited the spec better... meh, details since mine will be Charr ... making even less sense. Edited August 12, 2021 by Harak.8397 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Harak.8397 said: "If a protector of the Canthan throne has to "bend the will" of people... is that throne legitimate? Am I reading too much into this ? Anyway less ominous might have suited the spec better... meh, details since mine will be Charr ... making even less sense. If it gets us a cool new spec ... then the answer is YES. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuya.6495 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 This spec is gonna be so good for pvp. Duelest/roamer blue class op Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, aymnad.9023 said: Most I got out of the trailer was flashy animations and flashy effects. I do not dislike it, it is just that unlike necro I have no idea what is a mechanic, a utility, a weapon. There was a leap that did an AoE and granted Aegis. I bet that was the new F3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) Hate to be negative, but it's 0 of 3 for me thus far across all 3 new specs. Willbender isn't poised to be an amazing improvement over DH which has leaps, a teleport (JI), and pulls. If offhand sword is purely offensive it may actually be worse than core guardian sword+focus in terms of sustain as well. This will probably be another high power DPS spec in PVE though I wonder what that means for power DH. Edited August 12, 2021 by Infusion.7149 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Infusion.7149 said: Hate to be negative, but it's 0 of 3 for me thus far across all 3 new specs. Willbender isn't poised to be an amazing improvement over DH which has leaps, a teleport (JI), and pulls. If offhand sword is purely offensive it may actually be worse than core guardian sword+focus in terms of sustain as well. This will probably be another high power DPS spec in PVE though I wonder what that means for power DH. DH will always have Trapper runes (right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabbitUp.8294 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Infusion.7149 said: Hate to be negative, but it's 0 of 3 for me thus far across all 3 new specs. Willbender isn't poised to be an amazing improvement over DH which has leaps, a teleport (JI), and pulls. If offhand sword is purely offensive it may actually be worse than core guardian sword+focus in terms of sustain as well. This will probably be another high power DPS spec in PVE though I wonder what that means for power DH. The only mobilty skill DH has is F2, everything else is part of core guard (and available to WB). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Infusion.7149 said: Willbender isn't poised to be an amazing improvement over DH which has leaps, a teleport (JI), and pulls. Leap ( singular high CD ), JI is not only a DH thing its Core and pull (singular high CD ). Willbender is vastly diffrent from DH, it looks like a close range duelist roamer which is something no guard spec can really be right now. Edited August 12, 2021 by Exile.8160 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RabbitUp.8294 said: The only mobilty skill DH has is F2, everything else is part of core guard (and available to WB). Soaring Devastation was changed to be a passive movement buff too and arguably Spear of Justice is a gap closer. --- 15s isn't a high cooldown for GS leap if you play other classes such as weaver , soulbeast, or spellbreaker. Symbol of blades is 10s cooldown in PVP/WVW too. 10 minutes ago, Exile.8160 said: Leap ( singular high CD ), JI is not only a DH thing its Core and pull (singular high CD ). Willbender is vastly diffrent from DH, it looks like a close range duelist roamer which is something no guard spec can really be right now. Edited August 12, 2021 by Infusion.7149 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile.8160 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Infusion.7149 said: Soaring Devastation was changed to be a passive movement buff too and arguably Spear of Justice is a gap closer. --- 15s isn't a high cooldown if you play other classes such as weaver , soulbeast, or spellbreaker. Symbol of blades is 10s cooldown in PVP/WVW too. The leap is 30 secs and even if it was 15 secs it wont be viable enough to place the DH as a roamer. Teleports on guard alone arent the best for roaming either since you will always need an enemy target to even activate the skill. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie.3184 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Genesis.8572 said: I like the spec. Hate the name. will bend her owo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anchoku.8142 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Bender gets its own ROFL-copter attack like Reaper's Gravedigger? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilkanor.3072 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Exile.8160 said: The leap is 30 secs and even if it was 15 secs it wont be viable enough to place the DH as a roamer. indeed a bit too slow to roam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arken.3725 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) Unless anet fixes long-standing guardian issues, this will never be viable in pvp. Main issues for every DPS spec outside of trapper dh is the ability to stick to your target and do meaningful damage. Core has no chill, cripple and maybe one immobilization. Dh is only good because trapper runes carry it, without the stealth and superspeed, dh would be useless in pvp. FB is just non-existent. A melee class needs speed, controlling conditions or both to be effective. Guardian currently has none of these outside of trapper dh. Not even mentioning the buggy tracking on every meaningful skill out there. (scepter auto, great sword leap and binding blade just to name a few. ) Edited August 13, 2021 by Arken.3725 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) I don’t think this is surprising. I was expecting and hoping for off hand sword and mobility. Willbender seems to deliver both, so it looks very promising. It is a niche nothing else, core, DH or FB fulfil. I just hope in pve it is differentiated enough from DH. I hope it does not end GS and sword/sword with not much change. That Will be pretty lame. Edited August 13, 2021 by otto.5684 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchme.1097 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 As I predicted in my speculation, Guardian is getting a high mobility E Spec as the profession lacks mobility and combo attacks. The new Spec looks like a mix of Thief+Guardian and I really like it. I would like to know more about the reasons behind the choice of its name unless it has something to do with Futurama 😄 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestia.9128 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Arken.3725 said: Unless anet fixes long-standing guardian issues, this will never be viable in pvp. Main issues for every DPS spec outside of trapper dh is the ability to stick to your target and do meaningful damage. Core has no chill, cripple and maybe one immobilization. Dh is only good because trapper runes carry it, without the stealth and superspeed, dh would be useless in pvp. FB is just non-existent. A melee class needs speed, controlling conditions or both to be effective. Guardian currently has none of these outside of trapper dh. Not even mentioning the buggy tracking on every meaningful skill out there. (scepter auto, great sword leap and binding blade just to name a few. ) From the trailer, the kick at 00:16 seems to be a stun. They also seem to get Physical utilities, which so far have been mostly CCs for Daredevil and Warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arken.3725 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, Celestia.9128 said: From the trailer, the kick at 00:16 seems to be a stun. They also seem to get Physical utilities, which so far have been mostly CCs for Daredevil and Warrior. That's fine but if the foundation of the profession itself isn't adjusted, then why bother trying DPS specs outside of willbender? Trapper runes should be removed but in turn, that will decimate dh in competitive play. I'm very much excited for a mobile Guardian specialization, make no mistake. Just it would be nice to have a look at problems plaguing the class that essentially shoehorns players into only playing support. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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