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How would you all feel about a playable Orc Race?

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  • I dont want orcs in this game

    I’d prefer sub races more like risen of races or corrupted. This would be more inline with lore then orca and add way more variety into the game

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I don't even need to look at the pole results to kno itl be heavy on on the no side because ur pole infers something that the community never wants but always asks for. Change lol
    And for all that voted nay are racist lol

  • Hashberry.4510Hashberry.4510 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Thalimae.3406 said:
    Hard NO for me. I like that GW2 doesn't have the usual cliché fantasy races, save for humans obviously. But no elves, no orcs and they even got (mostly) rid of the dwarves with Eye of the North.

    This is pretty funny when the game is loaded with vampires and zombies =) .

  • Doggie.3184Doggie.3184 Member ✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    I don't want any new races. I rather they polished Male Sylvari and Charr armor and gave Sylvari unique animations and whatever other QoL improvements they can think of for current races. I do however want a Skritt Combat Tonic that uses Charr animations which shouldn't be too difficult.

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2019
    I dont want orcs in this game

    I would think "WTH did these orcs come from?"

    As long as we are adding races just to sell something, might as well add Ninjas, Terminators and Jedi while you are at it.

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • Tommo Chocolate.5870Tommo Chocolate.5870 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2019
    I dont want orcs in this game

    I really like some versions of orcs - I'm especially fond of the ones in Warhammer 40k/Gorkamorka. But I don't think that GW2 would benefit from having them introduced. I don't see what they could do with them that they couldn't do better with one of the existing races.

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:
    One of the common request I always see for a new race to play, are always anthropomorphic creatures. Kind of tired of that personally.

    From what I've seen the most commonly requested playable race is tengu, and skritt seem to be popular as well. Those are both less anthropomorphic than orcs.

    The Charr neck thing just,,,, nvm

    What is "the charr neck thing"?!

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    I like the idea of adding new races, both playable and otherwise, but I'd rather not see orcs because (as many other people have said) they're too common at this point.

    The thing which originally got me interested in Guild Wars was the charr, specifically the fact that they didn't look like anything I'd seen before. There's so many fantasy games, even some fairly original ones, where I can go through most their creatures with a DnD Monster Manual and a book on folklore and say "So it's this creature, but with X changed to Y".

    I have to disagree, since Charr pretty much are a race of creatures from DnD just like Orcs are, just with a different name. In fact many MMOs also have Charr like creatures just with different names for them going back to Dungeons and Dragons.

    Which DnD race? (Not saying you're wrong; genuinely curious.)

  • I dont want orcs in this game

    eh, and where did DnD got their orcs from? Oh yes, Tolkien. And Tolkien? He butchered and confused folklore and legends.

  • I wouldn't mind

    Orcs are not even in my top ten but at this point I'm okay with anything that adds a new playable race. Or new weapons. Or new professions. You know, expansion level content...

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  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2019

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    might as well add Ninjas, Terminators and Jedi while you are at it.

    Daredevil, Scrapper, Holosmith

    .....dot...dot....dot....

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Poormany.4507 said:
    Hard no - Orcs are way too overdone in fantasy MMOs and they're almost every single time a boring, uncultured, savage race that serves as trash mobs. There's so many better and more unique options that are already in GW2 for playable races (Kodan, Tengu, Dwarf, Largos, etc.).

    Tengu directly come from DnD
    http://connorscampaigns.wikidot.com/d-d-races#tengu

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tommo Chocolate.5870 said:
    I really like some versions of orcs - I'm especially fond of the ones in Warhammer 40k/Gorkamorka. But I don't think that GW2 would benefit from having them introduced. I don't see what they could do with them that they couldn't do better with one of the existing races.

    I like the Warborn from Archeage. Very Orc like, which is why I made this thread. I could rock with the male Warborn in GW2 if added.

    The Charr neck thing just,,,, nvm

    What is "the charr neck thing"?!

    you know,, the charr neck thing. ...

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    I like the idea of adding new races, both playable and otherwise, but I'd rather not see orcs because (as many other people have said) they're too common at this point.

    The thing which originally got me interested in Guild Wars was the charr, specifically the fact that they didn't look like anything I'd seen before. There's so many fantasy games, even some fairly original ones, where I can go through most their creatures with a DnD Monster Manual and a book on folklore and say "So it's this creature, but with X changed to Y".

    I have to disagree, since Charr pretty much are a race of creatures from DnD just like Orcs are, just with a different name. In fact many MMOs also have Charr like creatures just with different names for them going back to Dungeons and Dragons.

    Which DnD race? (Not saying you're wrong; genuinely curious.)

    Litorian race from DnD with Dragonborn neck == Charr in GW2

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Algreg.3629 said:

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @Poormany.4507 said:
    Hard no - Orcs are way too overdone in fantasy MMOs and they're almost every single time a boring, uncultured, savage race that serves as trash mobs. There's so many better and more unique options that are already in GW2 for playable races (Kodan, Tengu, Dwarf, Largos, etc.).

    Tengu directly come from DnD
    http://connorscampaigns.wikidot.com/d-d-races#tengu

    tengu are adaptations of mythical creatures. As many other D&D monsters, which also drew heavily from literature. And many franchises drew from D&D, from which in return D&D drew. It is called culture - google it some time. Not to mention anthropomorphic beasts (btw, if you want to use "fancy" words, maybe understand what they mean first?) do not require that much imagination. Maybe go away to some D&D or more traditional fantasy franchise then? I mean, since day one you campaigned for everything wow and stuff has in GW2. Maybe just go someplace else for your fix?

    you say this but yet you ok with races and creatures that are also from other franchises. WoW didnt invent Orcs either, just like GW2 didnt invent Tengu. Shoot people said the same argument you just did about Greatswords being in the game. "Hey you want Greatswords in GW2, go back to WoW", yet Greatsword is the most popular weapon in the game. Same deal with Raids, and Mounts. shoot we can take it a step further, I remember when people would tell you go back to WoW for requesting rifles....

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Hashberry.4510 said:

    @Thalimae.3406 said:
    Hard NO for me. I like that GW2 doesn't have the usual cliché fantasy races, save for humans obviously. But no elves, no orcs and they even got (mostly) rid of the dwarves with Eye of the North.

    This is pretty funny when the game is loaded with vampires and zombies =) .

    gw2 got vampires and zombies were?

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭

    What exactly would that Orc race have that would make them be something else than Charr, or Grawl (besides the name, of course)? And why would we want them introduced to this game in the first place anyway?

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  • Hashberry.4510Hashberry.4510 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Hashberry.4510 said:

    @Thalimae.3406 said:
    Hard NO for me. I like that GW2 doesn't have the usual cliché fantasy races, save for humans obviously. But no elves, no orcs and they even got (mostly) rid of the dwarves with Eye of the North.

    This is pretty funny when the game is loaded with vampires and zombies =) .

    gw2 got vampires and zombies were?

    Orr is crawling with them.

  • I dont want orcs in this game

    @Hashberry.4510 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Hashberry.4510 said:

    @Thalimae.3406 said:
    Hard NO for me. I like that GW2 doesn't have the usual cliché fantasy races, save for humans obviously. But no elves, no orcs and they even got (mostly) rid of the dwarves with Eye of the North.

    This is pretty funny when the game is loaded with vampires and zombies =) .

    gw2 got vampires and zombies were?

    Orr is crawling with them.

    Vampires? Where in Orr? Under what name?

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  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Hashberry.4510 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Hashberry.4510 said:

    @Thalimae.3406 said:
    Hard NO for me. I like that GW2 doesn't have the usual cliché fantasy races, save for humans obviously. But no elves, no orcs and they even got (mostly) rid of the dwarves with Eye of the North.

    This is pretty funny when the game is loaded with vampires and zombies =) .

    gw2 got vampires and zombies were?

    Orr is crawling with them.

    Oh you mean the undead well they are called Risen.
    Might say they are the gw2 version of zombies but vampires?

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    might as well add Ninjas, Terminators and Jedi while you are at it.

    Daredevil, Scrapper, Holosmith

    .....dot...dot....dot....

    Obviously the point is missed ... Orc aren't part of the lore and neither are the things I mentioned.

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • I dont want orcs in this game

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    No, boring and unoriginal. It would be just one more “something that looks mostly human but with a slight difference.” If they’re going to add a new race I’d prefer they add from this game world’s existing lore, such as Tengu or Skritt, rather than shoehorning in a race from other game’s lore.

    yep, if there is a new race, it should be distinct. not just a different flavor of human. I'd vote tengu. And from what I understand, there was already work done towards tengu being playable, but it was cut relatively late in the game's development.

  • I dont want orcs in this game

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    might as well add Ninjas, Terminators and Jedi while you are at it.

    Daredevil, Scrapper, Holosmith

    .....dot...dot....dot....

    Ninjas=Daredevil I'll give you, but the other two are hilariously weak!
    The scrappers makes things like drones, Terminators are humaniod robots.
    The only thing vaguely Jedi about Holosmith is the sword, which is really just a skin, so any sword wielder can use it.
    Please, expand on how the two engineer elite specs represent humanoid killer robots and a religious order of space wizards, respectively.

  • Tukaram.8256Tukaram.8256 Member ✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    Do we even have orcs at all in the game? I do not recall seeing any. It would make more sense to use existing critters, if they make a new playable race.

  • UnDeadFun.5824UnDeadFun.5824 Member ✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    I am sure we will never see another playable race in this game. If they did there are so many more lore related races that would be more fitting.

  • LadyKitty.6120LadyKitty.6120 Member ✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

    @Hashberry.4510 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Hashberry.4510 said:

    @Thalimae.3406 said:
    Hard NO for me. I like that GW2 doesn't have the usual cliché fantasy races, save for humans obviously. But no elves, no orcs and they even got (mostly) rid of the dwarves with Eye of the North.

    This is pretty funny when the game is loaded with vampires and zombies =) .

    gw2 got vampires and zombies were?

    Orr is crawling with them.

    Vampires? Where in Orr? Under what name?

    Vampires in expansion areas, for ex. Pile of Guano HP in Verdant Brink. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vampire_Beast

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  • Lexi.1398Lexi.1398 Member ✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    orcs were kind of rolled into asura and charr, charr are furry orcs and asura takes the goblin appearance category which is also how i'd classify orcs.

  • Orc is just a word. It has no meaning without the context of the settings that use it. What would orcs be in GW?

  • I dont want orcs in this game

    There are literally TWO other lore friendly races that can be added to the game before Orcs. One of them already has a home carved into the world map and use the same "skeleton" as an already existing race in the game. If you want Orcs, there are literally tons of other MMOs and games that have them.

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  • Ultramex.1506Ultramex.1506 Member ✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    @Tanner Blackfeather.6509 said:

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    might as well add Ninjas, Terminators and Jedi while you are at it.

    Daredevil, Scrapper, Holosmith

    .....dot...dot....dot....

    Ninjas=Daredevil I'll give you, but the other two are hilariously weak!
    The scrappers makes things like drones, Terminators are humaniod robots.
    The only thing vaguely Jedi about Holosmith is the sword, which is really just a skin, so any sword wielder can use it.
    Please, expand on how the two engineer elite specs represent humanoid killer robots and a religious order of space wizards, respectively.

    Holosmith utilize LIGHT for their gadget so it wouldn't surprise anyone if they could create a Lightsaber/Blaster (still impressive though) but making a Lightsaber doesn't mean you are a Jedi, in fact Engineers are Jedi Pretenders than a real one, needing gadget to do what Jedi can do (want Force Push? Magnetic Inversion for ya). So until Engineer can Force Persuade us to think otherwise, they are not Jedi.

  • I think the Gelatinous Cube from D&D should be introduced as a playable race.

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ultramex.1506 said:

    @Tanner Blackfeather.6509 said:

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    might as well add Ninjas, Terminators and Jedi while you are at it.

    Daredevil, Scrapper, Holosmith

    .....dot...dot....dot....

    Ninjas=Daredevil I'll give you, but the other two are hilariously weak!
    The scrappers makes things like drones, Terminators are humaniod robots.
    The only thing vaguely Jedi about Holosmith is the sword, which is really just a skin, so any sword wielder can use it.
    Please, expand on how the two engineer elite specs represent humanoid killer robots and a religious order of space wizards, respectively.

    Holosmith utilize LIGHT for their gadget so it wouldn't surprise anyone if they could create a Lightsaber/Blaster (still impressive though) but making a Lightsaber doesn't mean you are a Jedi, in fact Engineers are Jedi Pretenders than a real one, needing gadget to do what Jedi can do (want Force Push? Magnetic Inversion for ya). So until Engineer can Force Persuade us to think otherwise, they are not Jedi.

    You meaning like Moa Tonic that persuade enemies into thinking they really a bird?

  • Ben K.6238Ben K.6238 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    You meaning like Moa Tonic that persuade enemies into thinking they really a bird?

    Last I checked you can't use that toolbelt skill as a Holosmith

  • ZDragon.3046ZDragon.3046 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    IT would be very bland and i think out of gw2 lore.
    We already have something close to what orcs are in other games which are basically the charr (which imo are much better than simple orcs)
    We also have the asura which are a strange race too.

    That said there are probably other races that could be just as neat such as Tengu (Which have their own private citiy)or Stone-dwarves (whom are still underground dealing with the destroyers) which would be much more fitting and are currently still in the game although you rarely see them around.

    Overall this game has a few cool races they could pull from if they really wanted to expand upon that as a future feature. That said new races stuff is very costly if you want to do it right and i just dont see that happening.
    Either you get it right where all or most armors in the game are redesigned to fit that new race or the race gets locked its own basic racial armor and anything that comes out after the race's release which will leave fashion high and dry for a while.

  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Would it be a nice surprise to learn that one of the major reasons for the perceived lack of content is due to Anet working on a new race and all that comes with that task (the aforementioned armor re-designs, personal story, etc)? If so, and once released, how many complainers would applaud the effort -- or would many still find things to complain about?

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  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    @TarkaPop.4685 said:
    I think the Gelatinous Cube from D&D should be introduced as a playable race.

    I would genuinely like that, but I'm not sure how practical it would be once the novelty value wore off.

    I used to role-play with someone whose character was a sentient DnD slime, but that was free-form role-playing on a forum so there was a lot more flexibility to accommodate weird characters.

    If we ever do get another race my hope is Tengu. Especially because then my next character could be a tengu called Seahawk and he'd be my 12th man.

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  • titje.2745titje.2745 Member ✭✭✭
    I wouldn't mind

    indeed, ppl always want existing races but you gave examples that weren’t in the lore before so i want orcs and elves 😃

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @kharmin.7683 said:
    Would it be a nice surprise to learn that one of the major reasons for the perceived lack of content is due to Anet working on a new race and all that comes with that task (the aforementioned armor re-designs, personal story, etc)? If so, and once released, how many complainers would applaud the effort -- or would many still find things to complain about?

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  • Thornwolf.9721Thornwolf.9721 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't mind

    Could just make ogres playable, they are orcish enough in appearance and are unique enough to be something cool.

  • Trevor Boyer.6524Trevor Boyer.6524 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    I always liked & respected Guild Wars lore because it wasn't so Tolkien based..

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2019

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:
    I always liked & respected Guild Wars lore because it wasn't so Tolkien based..

    How so?
    Also how we defining "Tolkien based"?

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:
    I always liked & respected Guild Wars lore because it wasn't so Tolkien based..

    Shouldn't you say "Germanic-based"?
    Because that's where elves and dwarves come from.
    And the word may Orc derive from the Ork in the Austran folklore.
    The behaviour of classic (non-WoW derived) Orcs as brutish uncivilized races also resemble the Japanese Oni and the Norse Jötun (which as a GW2 race also have a spiritual aspect like WoW-Orcs have).

  • I dont want orcs in this game

    @Hashberry.4510 said:

    @Thalimae.3406 said:
    Hard NO for me. I like that GW2 doesn't have the usual cliché fantasy races, save for humans obviously. But no elves, no orcs and they even got (mostly) rid of the dwarves with Eye of the North.

    This is pretty funny when the game is loaded with vampires and zombies =) .

    I'm not sure that they would be considered "the usual cliché fantasy races" in the scenario we are actually talking about but that's aside the point cause neither of these are playable races which is the point of this discussion after all. And as others have pointed out the comparison is rather flimsy to begin with when you count bat-monsters as "vampires". Yes, technically they are named that but that doesn't make them what people associate with the term in a fantasy setting. Heck, real life has literal "vampire bats" as well but that doesn't mean that vampires are real.

  • Arkantos.7460Arkantos.7460 Member ✭✭✭
    anthropomorphic creatures should be the only new playable races

    kodan, tengu, skritt, plz

  • DearlyMe.5320DearlyMe.5320 Member ✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    This topic confused me for a minute or two. I've been reading Ogre as Orc for years. That's close enough for me. I am not interested in the generic races for fantasy games. And we definitely do not need Elves. Sylvari fill that roll and concept art shows they almost were going to be very Elf-like. Just that first image on their wiki, they look like Elves. If we get Orcs added like that, which people have pointed out is how the Charr are, I'll change my mind. The thing I really love about GW2 is how different it looks compared to other MMOs.
    A mount and a playable race is also not the same thing.

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  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    Seems to me that adding a new, not currently canon, race would require more work than developing an existing option, from a lore/story standing at least.

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I dont want orcs in this game

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:
    I always liked & respected Guild Wars lore because it wasn't so Tolkien based..

    Shouldn't you say "Germanic-based"?
    Because that's where elves and dwarves come from.
    And the word may Orc derive from the Ork in the Austran folklore.
    The behaviour of classic (non-WoW derived) Orcs as brutish uncivilized races also resemble the Japanese Oni and the Norse Jötun (which as a GW2 race also have a spiritual aspect like WoW-Orcs have).

    Weird, my first exposure to dwarves and elves was norse mythology, not germanic.

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:
    I always liked & respected Guild Wars lore because it wasn't so Tolkien based..

    Shouldn't you say "Germanic-based"?
    Because that's where elves and dwarves come from.
    And the word may Orc derive from the Ork in the Austran folklore.
    The behaviour of classic (non-WoW derived) Orcs as brutish uncivilized races also resemble the Japanese Oni and the Norse Jötun (which as a GW2 race also have a spiritual aspect like WoW-Orcs have).

    Weird, my first exposure to dwarves and elves was norse mythology, not germanic.

    The Norse people were a Germanic people..

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