HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 It has been a few weeks, since the built-templates were released. I have seen the complaints on this board, but aside from that no information how the new feature actually performs. I actively use the Build-TemplatesYou have more than one set and/or more than one build equipped on a character you are actively playing.You switch those builds either by using the hotkeys or manually by clicking through the Hero Panel.A simple poll, two options. You can just pick what suits to your situation. But I would also like to hear/read about your experiences.How do you use feature? (Equipment-Template, Build-Template, both)What builds are you using/switching most often?In which game-mode(s) you use the feature?How often do you switch between the builds?Did you happen to run into problems yet? (lagg while switching, wrong gear mixed with wrong build, slipped on the wrong buttons)In addition, I would also like to know if you are not using the feature, why?Is it too complicated/confusing?You only have one build and feel no need of adding another.Other reasons (please no rants)I am also interested in small stories. If you ran into a situation where the built-templates came in pretty handy, share it.Note: This will not prove anything to ANet. I am just curious about the experiences of other players. Why making "another poll"? Some people do not want to write a text, they can just click. You can decide on your own how much time and effort you want to invest.Thank you for participation and sharing your experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 I use both, switching between a Hybrid Holosmith for DPS and a Power Scrapper for sustain and exploration. At the moment it is only PVE, but I plan to give WvW another try soon. I switch my builds quite frequently. Sometimes 2-3 times in 5 minutes, sometimes less. It depends on the situation. It is quite useful in instanced content such as Dungeons and Fractals, but also has its uses in open-world. Once, I decided to swap between two very narrow fights. Due to a little lagg, I ended up with my Scrapper gear and my Holosmith build. It would be a lot smoother if there was not the issue with pressing two hotkeys. But when there is no lagg, I can swap between builds during /step whenever a leg changes.I started using the built-templates at the Makali Outpost during the Nayrim event. Just switched between builds whenever the gate changed. Fractals and Dungeons are a lot easier for me now, as I can switch to DPS without wasting a few minutes of my party-members time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Of course I use it, in spite of its flaws and limitations. It's what we've got.P.S. I am not happy with ANet's execution of a templates system, but not using it out of protest seems a bit childish to me, especially after they've fixed the auto-eject issue and stat reset with legendary gear and upgrades. Whether I am buying more slots, on the other hand, is a totally different story. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menadena.7482 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 They majorly messed it up then only gave us a taste and made it hugely expensive to add to your account. As far as I am concerned I may as well continue keeping things in my inventory (although I was able to put some spare weapons into equipment slots) and forget templates even exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalSpire.7283 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I've been using the feature since it's arrival. Mostly, I use it to switch between Open World content and PvP. Sometimes I also switch between several Open World builds.If there were two things I'd change about the build templates, they would be as follows:1.) Merge the Build and Equipment portion. I'd like to just select one button and have everything switch over. Like HnRkLnXqZ above, I also have been caught in some fast switching, then gotten locked in combat "halfway" if you will (One Build, but the other Equipment). 2.) Have a separate list of builds for each game-mode, which saved whatever one you had on when you were last in that game-mode. For people who only use one build for each game mode, this update was actually a downgrade. Before you could just leave your skills and traits as they were, and they would be there when you came back to that mode. Now, you have to actively switch them.Overall, it was a good start, but I'd like to see it improved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taygus.4571 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Yeah, I have 3 pve necro builds.dps reapercdps scrgheal scrgI have 2 mirage builds..one for wvw, one for pvp.I have another necro with different builds for pvp and wvwI will expand this in time ^^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I use equipment templates:already bought some the first day for WvW guardian so I don't need to roam with minstrel's gear. PvE has a dedicated equipment slot to select legendary gear options. Many other people opted for additional character slots for 800 gems (as low as ~560 gems when on sale). If I played more PvE I'd probably use more than 6 slots (power, condi, quickness, WvW minstrel, WvW roaming is already 5).mesmer has multiple possible equipment setups (boon,condi,power, WvW with toughness/vitality) : right now I don't play mesmer often in WvW due to chrono changes so I'm still working on the other slotsengineer makes use of power for PvE holo and minstrel for scrapper WvW : other people may run WvW DPS gyros, condi holo or condi core enginecromancer makes uses of power/condi, cele for WvW : as full berserker stat in WvW is adequate for power scourge in WvW there's no reason to get more slots unless you run a finicky PvE support scourge or power and condi in PvErevenant is basically power and power with durability rune for WvW : other people may run alacrity renegade warrior is power regardless of mode , the 2nd template uses more vitality for WvW : I don't doubt some people would be annoyed by having to swap weapons out or needing addition tabs for condi berserkerelementalist basically is power regardless of mode (I'm willing to run vitality in PvE) , although others may run heal tempest or condi weaverI don't play thief often but it's marauder armor so it doesn't need an additional slot : I don't doubt that people would make a condi or boon thief but that varies over time and isn't consistent between patchesI rarely play ranger but one tab is harrier and the other is power: others may opt for a condi tabWaiting for a 5 or 10 equipment template bundle to come out. Then I can make use of 3rd/4th tab for:condi engineer , ele, warrior, PvE necro (probably not since burn is much spikier than bleed/poison) , thief, ranger (probably not since power soulbeast is the way to go)support renegade (alacrity)If you don't play WvW and don't play guardian, mesmer, or revenant it is unlikely that you will need more than 2-3 slots as 2 slots is enough for power+condi. Once you play support you will need more.I use build templates:every game mode , despite the annoying manual switching.sharing to other players for WvWpasting template or using build storage to replace the build in the default WvW build slot (first one is PvE, 2nd is PvP, 3rd is default WvW) --- workaround due to pricingThat said I'd drop money on more of them (build templates/build storage) if they weren't so ridiculously priced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Very casual PvEer here. I have three characters on which I actively use the templates, but other toons where I have templates set up but don't play as often:1> Soulbeast/Druid (main)2> Chronomancer/Mirage3> Weaver/TempestI use hot-keys to swap and do so frequently depending on content, population and fun factors. I haven't had any issues other than using the wrong set of hot-keys and getting one of my mounts instead of the template I wanted (oops!), but that's my issue and not one with the system.As I have equipped each one with unique gear (for the most part, maybe a shared glove or back piece here or there) I would like to have one more account-wide equipment slot so that I could have two builds and one "working" or "testing" build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I use it, but in a minimalist sort of way. I use it to store an extra set of weapons for out of combat weapon swap. If they add another set of Elite specs I might use it for that and have two builds on one char instead of my current one build per char. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzysztof.5973 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 No. Because the LOADOUTS are so scuffed and limited I was forced into not playing the classes with tons of builds at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenella.2634 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Of course I use it. Otherwise I'd have to run around WvW with a PvE build or switch everything manually each time.I still prefer the automatic loadouts per mode we had before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Soul.5178 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I haven't used it even once.EDIT: For clarification, as a very casual PvEer, build templates weren't all that important to me to begin with (although I did use them in Guild Wars 1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzChevalerie.1035 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I've used it once or twice in fractal when my tempest is a nuisance for subject 20 something. cant say i see alot of use for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I use them to swap between raid builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuck.4095 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Been using them for running around, power builds solo and when group event pops swap to a healing build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elothar.4382 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I have over thirty characters and I use build/equipment slots on three of them. One is for WvW versus open world PVE. Another one alternates between a pure power build/equipment and one with more survivability. The final toggles between a open world PVE ranger and and healing druid. Otherwise, I don't tend to change builds or equipment that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrigginPaco.4178 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Let me be clear, I want to use it more, but it needs work and is a bit overpriced if they want certain parts of them to be character bound instead of account bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biermeister.4678 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Don't use them my characters are built and equipped for the game mode I use them in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manasa Devi.7958 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I haven't even looked at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c space cowboy.2764 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Voted no because it made me quit the game until it's not wildly monetized and they fix legendary gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Yes - it allowed me to experiment more and try elite specs I wouldn't have beforePlus it allows me to switch to different looks, albeit one that is rather more cumbersome method than it needs to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I use it to quickly swap elites around, after that i manually readjust traits if needed.Same thing for the gear templates, fast switch between power and condi gear, then manually readjust gear depending on PvE or WvW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaklex.6308 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I only play Open World and Story, and only have one build per character...at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I don't use it much, but then I'm a casual player who never changed builds much before, and recently I haven't been doing much which requires changing builds.The main benefit for me is when I do raids (which isn't very often, but does happen), I can switch to the raid build I use without having to go to a website to look up what all the traits are, and I can switch back to my normal build instantly when I'm done. Plus if I have a build which is ok, but I want to experiment with something else I can save what I've got now and switch back to it later on without having to write it all down, which makes experimenting less of a pain and therefore something I'm more likely to do.I'm also using the equipment tabs for 'weapon swapping' on my elementalists and engineers. It's not as good as real weapon swap of course, because it only works out of combat, but it is less hassle than opening the Hero panel to equip the other weapon.I've also saved my Mad King's Labyrinth build so I don't have to try and remember it next year, but I'm not sure how useful that will be given all the changes that are likely to happen in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoredVehicle.2849 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I have 3 issues with this:The skills templates are a step forward and 2 steps backwards, having to manually load builds manually whenever you switch between PVE/PvP/ WvW is an inconvenience, before the update it loaded automatically and I liked it better. A simple solution to this would be to make the game autoload the last used template slot whenever you enter a different game mode.The equipment templates are a tangled mess that I really don't want to use, the main reason for my complaint are the legendary weapons auto removing sigils and infusions, I spend more time re applying them to the weapons than If I manually switch the weapons from the inventory. Heavily monetized feature for what was free and smoother in GW1, After 7 years I've expected better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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