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So Ion said we wouldn't get HIgh Elves in WoW, so how about High Elves introduced in Guild Wars? Most games have elves in their fantasy, but GW has no elves at all.

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  • Cuddy.6247Cuddy.6247 Member ✭✭✭

    I think the mursaat kind of filled the role as high elves. They were hostiles, but there's still room to learn about them post mortem.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 16, 2018

    @Mortymes.7139 said:
    So Ion said we wouldn't get HIgh Elves in WoW, so how about High Elves introduced in Guild Wars? Most games have elves in their fantasy, but GW has no elves at all.

    1. We have the GW2 version of elves: sylvari. (I like classic fantasy elves better, too, but on the other hand it makes GW2 more unique. Btw, the WoW elves are awful, with their ridiculous antenna ears. This is what a decent elven ear looks like.)
    2. I miss the dwarves so much more. They should be brought back as a playable race! However, judging by the feedback (or lack thereof) we have received from the devs in all these years, it is unlikely we'll ever see any playable races being added to the game.


    My GW2 content charts: (1) LWS 4, (2) PoF , (3) Personal story (pre-Claw Island/Orr) , (4) LWS 2 , (5) HoT, (6) Orr campaign , (7) LWS 3

  • Magnus Godrik.5841Magnus Godrik.5841 Member ✭✭✭

    I say bring high elves in. Bring midgets, gremlins, orcs, goblins, ghouls, zoras and fat people as well. The 6 can travel worlds, why can't these races. I dont see why anyone would be angry for bringing in new content. Who cares what it is.

  • Elva.6372Elva.6372 Member ✭✭✭

    @LucianDK.8615 said:
    You are crazy OP, high elves neither belongs in wow nor here.

    It's been awhile -but weren't High Elves like the original elves in wow and then they were split to BE's and DE's?

    Anyway, GW2 isn't conventional fantasy -it intentionally turns some stuff on its head -and the closest ANet came to traditional was Dwarves and they pretty much killed them off. Dragons are obviously a fantasy element but they are certainly not the fire breathing hoarders of gold that we are accustomed to seeing -more hoarders of elemental powers, etc.

    Sylvari are the "tree elf" race -Asura are the the handy little gadget gnomes the Norns are the half-giant, Beorning style race. And Charr are just weird...j/k the Charr are the beast race.

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  • Lincolnbeard.1735Lincolnbeard.1735 Member ✭✭✭

    Have you seen the original sylvaris? They were pretty much elves. They got reworked for a reason.
    sylvari-03.jpg

  • lokh.2695lokh.2695 Member ✭✭✭✭

    No need for new races. And why is it always something old? GW2 has Sylvari, which is a rather unique concept and I applaud ANet for making something new. Why do we need Orcs, Elves, Dwarves and all the other staples everywhere? I wish ppl would be more creative...

    If you want X, and Y is needed to get get X, you also have to want Y if you really want X. If you don't want Y, you don't want X. It's easy.
    Pro: Build Templates, Dungeon Rework, UW content
    Contra: New Races, New Classes, New Weapons, Capes

  • InvaGir.9158InvaGir.9158 Member ✭✭✭

    We first need horses, Only then elves.

  • Kheldorn.5123Kheldorn.5123 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:

    @Kheldorn.5123 said:

    Guild wars is not the kind of game where you call "but game X has it, so why not Gw2?"

    • microtransactions

    Not a game mechanic. In fact, its better because there are no P2W things in there.

    • raiding

    Then call it challenging group content.

    • mounts

    Okay, give you that, but at least they’re not lifeless vehicles like in WoW.

    • trinity

    What? Where? Is it behind the wide variety of team compositions? Sorry.. cant see it..

    • DRAGONS

    They’re called such, but only a few of them physically are. They’re forces of nature. Comparing them to generic fantasy dragons just is right out unfair.

    • dungeons

    True, but its kind of hard to make instanced side-stories and not call them dungeons.

    But still no build templates. Yes, GW2 is bastion of originality /s

    Yea.. still praying to Abaddon for that

    yeah yeah yeah, I know, none is original, just rewritten old concepts, exactly like in other games :)

  • Feanor.2358Feanor.2358 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Bakeneko.5826 said:

    @Mortymes.7139 said:
    So Ion said we wouldn't get HIgh Elves in WoW, so how about High Elves introduced in Guild Wars? Most games have elves in their fantasy, but GW has no elves at all.

    Lives in a forest, loves nature, one with the trees, speaks with british accent. Sylvari much?

    Never been to Valinor, not high elves.

  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Eekasqueak.7850 said:
    Elves are the Mary Sue of fantasy races, no thanks.

    Exactly.
    The "pretty" race with bug-eyes and useless ear-flaps.
    The "noble" race that's typically xenophobic and snobbish.
    A race that lives super-long lives, but never learns anything.
    No thanks.

    If we ever did get elves, I want them to be like Dragon Age elves.
    Dirty.
    Unsung.
    Struggling.
    They shouldn't even have a capital city, just a camp repurposed from an older, better civilization that they're barely keeping from dragon minions or other established threats.

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  • artemis.6781artemis.6781 Member ✭✭✭

    @chrisjfinlay.5614 said:
    Why elves? I mean, Tengu are already in the game and we can't play as them. I'd welcome that first.

    Tengu and skritt!

  • Mea.5491Mea.5491 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I don't want elves, they are generic and overrated. Sylvari is a more unique race.

  • Karaha.3290Karaha.3290 Member ✭✭✭

    @Kheldorn.5123 said:

    Guild wars is not the kind of game where you call "but game X has it, so why not Gw2?"

    • microtransactions
    • raiding
    • mounts
    • trinity
    • DRAGONS
    • dungeons

    But still no build templates. Yes, GW2 is bastion of originality /s

    You forgot Weapons, Skills, Levels, XP, Crafting, Humans, Towns, Skins, Nodes, Bosses, Walking with WASD, Jumping with Spacebar etc.
    Your list (also mine) is just basic stuff for an MMO and/or fantasy game.
    Except for trinity, this is only a thing in raids in GW2.

  • Kheldorn.5123Kheldorn.5123 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Karaha.3290 said:

    @Kheldorn.5123 said:

    Guild wars is not the kind of game where you call "but game X has it, so why not Gw2?"

    • microtransactions
    • raiding
    • mounts
    • trinity
    • DRAGONS
    • dungeons

    But still no build templates. Yes, GW2 is bastion of originality /s

    You forgot Weapons, Skills, Levels, XP, Crafting, Humans, Towns, Skins, Nodes, Bosses, Walking with WASD, Jumping with Spacebar etc.
    Your list (also mine) is just basic stuff for an MMO and/or fantasy game.
    Except for trinity, this is only a thing in raids in GW2.

    That's because game has no consistent / working tanking mechanic anywhere else. So outside of raids you still have somewhat dps+support coefficiency. It really shows during Serpent's Ire when people are spread properly.

  • OriOri.8724OriOri.8724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Mortymes.7139 said:
    So Ion said we wouldn't get HIgh Elves in WoW, so how about High Elves introduced in Guild Wars? Most games have elves in their fantasy, but GW has no elves at all.

    If I understand this correctly, your entire argument about Anet introducing high elves is because a separate game studio didn't put high elves into their own game?

    Eyyyy I unlocked signatures

  • sorudo.9054sorudo.9054 Member ✭✭✭✭

    i made a sylvanas-like elf with a sylvari, that's something right.....just a pity of the small ears tho.

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I like elves.

    Even so I would rather see an existing NPC race made playable than the addition of a non lore friendly race such as elves.

  • MithranArkanere.8957MithranArkanere.8957 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This is an "elf" in Guild Wars.
    The Avatar of Holiday cheer.

    Likely a mist entity from Dwayna's god realm.

    Not the kind of elf you were likely hoping for.

  • Einlanzer.1627Einlanzer.1627 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Mortymes.7139 said:
    So Ion said we wouldn't get HIgh Elves in WoW, so how about High Elves introduced in Guild Wars? Most games have elves in their fantasy, but GW has no elves at all.

    I know it's offtopic, but his reasoning was stupid. High Elves deserve to be playable in WoW.

  • RoseofGilead.8907RoseofGilead.8907 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 16, 2018

    @Einlanzer.1627 said:

    @Mortymes.7139 said:
    So Ion said we wouldn't get HIgh Elves in WoW, so how about High Elves introduced in Guild Wars? Most games have elves in their fantasy, but GW has no elves at all.

    I know it's offtopic, but his reasoning was stupid. High Elves deserve to be playable in WoW.

    I don't know. I don't think WoW really needs yet another playable elf race or allied race. Between races and allied races, we now have Blood Elves, Night Elves, Void Elves, and The Nightborne. So, while adding High Elves would satisfy some people (including myself, from a lore standpoint), it would just be yet another elf race and would be nearly indistinguishable from the already-playable Blood Elves.

    As for the main topic at hand: GW2 definitely doesn't need high elves or any other kind of elves. We have the Sylvari, and I like them as our version of elves.

    Oh look. I have a signature now.

  • Hybarf Tics.2048Hybarf Tics.2048 Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 16, 2018

    Here in this multiverse high elves are grown inside pods for 225 years then they are born :o

  • Magnus Godrik.5841Magnus Godrik.5841 Member ✭✭✭

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    I say bring high elves in. Bring midgets, gremlins, orcs, goblins, ghouls, zoras and fat people as well. The 6 can travel worlds, why can't these races. I dont see why anyone would be angry for bringing in new content. Who cares what it is.

    This is not that garbage game WoW. Our community likes the unique races GW's has given us.

    Ok give us a manicorn. Half man half unicorn.

  • Magnus Godrik.5841Magnus Godrik.5841 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    I say bring high elves in. Bring midgets, gremlins, orcs, goblins, ghouls, zoras and fat people as well. The 6 can travel worlds, why can't these races. I dont see why anyone would be angry for bringing in new content. Who cares what it is.

    Yea.. why stop there, though?
    Open the gates to Tamriel.
    Let the beings of Azaeroth and Middle Earth storm in as well.
    And we’ll all have dinner with Captain Hook in Howl’s Moving Castle

    Now your being silly with the gates. We all know we need the doors to tamreil. Pft gates.

  • Haishao.6851Haishao.6851 Member ✭✭✭

    Firstborn sylvari are the highborn elves of GW2.

  • coso.9173coso.9173 Member ✭✭✭

    sylvari are GW2' elves, as others have said. I wish we had real elves, but they decided to go that route....

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The lack of high elves is what originally put me off WoW. I'd spent so long imagining how great it would be if there was a Warcraft RPG where I could play a high elf ranger in Quel'Thalas. Then I played Warcraft 3 and they destroyed Quel'Thalas (worse, they made me destroy it, and there wasn't even an option to not play that campaign), destroyed the high elves and then announced an RPG.

    You know what's weird though? I actually like that GW2 doesn't have them.

    After losing interest in WoW (there are a lot more reasons, that was just the first) I discovered Guild Wars 1 and one of the things that drew me in was the originality of the world. Specifically it was the charr who caught my interest - they weren't easily identifiable as anything I already knew, either from real life or fantasy/mythology. No they're not so completely original that they bear no resemblance to anything ever seen before either, before someone says that, but it was enough to suggest that this game wasn't your generic LOTR copy fantasy world.

    I still like elves, and I still play them in most games which offer them (except the Elder Scrolls for some reason) but I also like having a game with more original races and the sylvari are probably the most interesting of the lot for me, especially after Season 2/HoT.

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  • Brimstone.3807Brimstone.3807 Member ✭✭✭

    Elves....eh..imo they don't fit this IP.

    I want to see Largos...to hell with Tengu :P (or maybe just to the next xpac...)

  • Laila Lightness.8742Laila Lightness.8742 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 16, 2018

    @Mortymes.7139 said:
    So Ion said we wouldn't get HIgh Elves in WoW, so how about High Elves introduced in Guild Wars? Most games have elves in their fantasy, but GW has no elves at all.

    We already have elfs they are called sylvari
    And you seem to want to make this game wow XD

  • Anyone else find it interesting that there's a whole page full of nothing but people saying "no" to the OP? Apparently it was such a touchy subject that every active forumer needs to voice their shared opinion on it.

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  • OneYenShort.3189OneYenShort.3189 Member ✭✭✭

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    Ok give us a manicorn. Half man half unicorn.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=man+unicorn&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjr642fq4vbAhVi3IMKHVgNCAEQsAQIKA&biw=1132&bih=672

    Ah, the flashbacks...

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  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lincolnbeard.1735 said:
    Have you seen the original sylvaris? They were pretty much elves. They got reworked for a reason.
    sylvari-03.jpg

    I wish these skins were a cosmetic option for Sylvari.
    I am not hating but the current version has this “planty “ cat-human look to them.

  • starlinvf.1358starlinvf.1358 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:
    Anyone else find it interesting that there's a whole page full of nothing but people saying "no" to the OP? Apparently it was such a touchy subject that every active forumer needs to voice their shared opinion on it.

    Thats typical of any game community that sees a suggestion to copy something else, but not give sufficient justification as to why it actively improves the game. Using WoW as an example rarely works, because WoW set the standard for "generic fantasy MMO". Warcraft itself is kind of funny as an IP, because its an off shoot of the Warhammer IP, which itself took the fantasy tropes popularized by Lord of the Rings to a comical extreme. So its kind of unfortunate that WoW tried to shed some of its parody of a parody roots on its way to becoming what it is now.

    Anyway.... Vets were apprehensive about Mounts when they were announced. They were also unsure about gliding when it was first announced. But to their well deserved credit, Anet tried to do something original with each, and make them an integral part of how the map operated. Even when they don't quite work right, they're still miles ahead of other games that just use it as a gimmick, and not do much with it in practice. "Joy of movement" is a philosophy thats worked well for Anet thus far.... so I suspect this is how they plan on doing expansions moving forward, so the Especs can operate independently and be fully compatible in any expansion.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Eekasqueak.7850 said:
    Elves are the Mary Sue of fantasy races, no thanks.

    You never have read classic fantasy novels, have you? Nor played classic (a.k.a. "high") fantasy RPGs, I assume? Because if you had you wouldn't make such a statement.


    My GW2 content charts: (1) LWS 4, (2) PoF , (3) Personal story (pre-Claw Island/Orr) , (4) LWS 2 , (5) HoT, (6) Orr campaign , (7) LWS 3

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Eekasqueak.7850 said:
    Elves are the Mary Sue of fantasy races, no thanks.

    You never have read classic fantasy novels, have you? Nor played classic (a.k.a. "high") fantasy RPGs, I assume? Because if you had you wouldn't make such a statement.

    Discounting things like Lord of the Rings, and DND tabletop and having grown up on fantasy novels and games(again not tabletop), and depending on what you mean by classic fantasy RPGs i..would actually say yes to that.

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