Blue D Phoenix.7260 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Lord Trejgon.2809 said: And even then they are not barred completely - some abilities works in those areas on per ability basis - in particular they provided example of scavenging/recycling modules working in wvw as well. What no, he said at beginning jade bots won't work in other places except Pve and story instance. No features of jade bots will be used in wvw. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasimir.6239 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Blue D Phoenix.7260 said: Like gliding and mounts which were new and used outside expansion maps Gliding wasn't available outside of HoT maps until months after the release of the expansion. The way I understood the stream they were basically saying "we're keeping an eye out for what people do with the bots and adjust/expand them as we go". 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Blue D Phoenix.7260 said: What no, he said at beginning jade bots won't work in other places except Pve and story instance. Exactly. Which is everywhere, basically, namely the open world and story. 🙂 Again: no Jade Bots only on raids, fractals, PvP, and (most of its features) in WvW. Edited February 11, 2022 by Ashantara.8731 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue D Phoenix.7260 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said: That's the one thing that leaves you all disappointed about Jade Bots? What about their many other features? I liked the personal wp feature. And others were just an enhancement, and the travel feature is like let line gliding. The free roam feature opened up a lot of new things, 1. Say if the workshop is near a jp, we can just look around and plan on how we can move. 2. Photoshoot This is just my opinion, of course I'm not expecting a lot, this expansion is bringing loads of stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Blue D Phoenix.7260 said: What no, he said at beginning jade bots won't work in other places except Pve and story instance. No features of jade bots will be used in wvw. 37:02 Rubi: "Recycler and scavenger protocol where are all of those available because this is one of those exceptions we talked about" Ben: "Yeah..um..those actually work in WvW" Edited February 11, 2022 by Sigmoid.7082 spelling 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue D Phoenix.7260 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rasimir.6239 said: Gliding wasn't available outside of HoT maps until months after the release of the expansion. Oh cool, but why tho? Jade bots I can understand, we need workshop for it, did gliding had it too? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue D Phoenix.7260 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sigmoid.7082 said: Rubi: "Recycler and scavenger protocol where are all of those available because this is one of those exceptions we talked about" Ben: "Yeah..um..those actually work in WvW" Yeah I mistook jade bots and jade bots feature as one, it's seems to be two different things, my bad. Edited February 11, 2022 by Blue D Phoenix.7260 Stupid autocorrect made bots as bits 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sigmoid.7082 said: 37:02 Rubi: "Recycler and scavenger protocal where aer all of those avaliable becasuse this is one of those exceptiosn we talked about" Ben: "Yeah..um..those actually work in WvW" Thanks, you spared me the search. 😘 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trejgon.9367 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Blue D Phoenix.7260 said: Like gliding and mounts which were new and used outside expansion maps, I expected a feature in eod which can be used as an expansion to gameplay. Jade bots had me at that, but its feature was more of an enhancement, quite restricted outside cantha. I was really excited about the free roam feature. "heavilly restricted" as in one particular feature you were very interested in, and one undetermined feature that is already restricted by charge mechanic, ok. 11 minutes ago, Blue D Phoenix.7260 said: What no, he said at beginning jade bots won't work in other places except Pve and story instance. No features of jade bots will be used in wvw. You weren't listening were you? he said explicitelly that they will work everywhere in open world for sure, but not in pvp, and instanced/wvw is on ability-per-ability basis. And then when they finished describing scavenger and recycle modules dude said that they saw no point for them to not be allowed in wvw "so these two work in wvw". (Scavenger modules are basically chance for additional loot from corpses depending on which module you slot, recycler module converts "low quality trash items" you loot into a currency/material determined by module) 5 minutes ago, Blue D Phoenix.7260 said: Oh cool, but why tho? Jade bots I can understand, we need workshop for it, did gliding had it too? Workshop is only needed for changing of "loadout" of the bot. As for gliding it was at first advertised as HoT-only thing with argumentation that it may break core maps that were not designed with this in mind. Due to popular request, they went over core maps to "adjust" problematic spots.... and then took some additional months to patch out all the problematic places players found to have slipped past them 😉 EDIT: 6 minutes ago, Blue D Phoenix.7260 said: I liked the personal wp feature. And others were just an enhancement, and the travel feature is like let line gliding. I did not hear anything indicating that personal wp feature is going to be restricted to cantha alone... Edited February 11, 2022 by Lord Trejgon.2809 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth.8906 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 How recarge the jade bot outside EOD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trejgon.9367 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Seth.8906 said: How recarge the jade bot outside EOD? they said charges will only be needed for map interactions (i.e. "turrets and stuff") and charges will not persist through zoning, so not only you will have no need for charges outside of cantha (nor will you be able to bring the charges out of it) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellissane.3041 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 The module slots seem totally wrong though. Why put Treasure hunter and extra loot mods in different slots, when extra loot and utility, like more mount speed, are in the same slot? Loot and utility should be separated in different slots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Fire Attunement.9835 Posted February 11, 2022 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted February 11, 2022 Hi all, so glad you found today's show informative! I've been reading the conversation here and wanted to pop in quickly to call out two things we did not mention on the show: The jade bot personal waypoint will persist until you use it or until you change maps You will be able to have a jade bot workbench in your guild hall 9 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue D Phoenix.7260 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fire Attunement.9835 said: Hi all, so glad you found today's show informative! I've been reading the conversation here and wanted to pop in quickly to call out two things we did not mention on the show: The jade bot personal waypoint will persist until you use it or until you change maps You will be able to have a jade bot workbench in your guild hall What about the jade bot free roam bench thing, will it be in different places in cantha or same places like the workbench? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farohna.6247 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Ooh I like the bench in the guild hall... very convenient! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Hellissane.3041 said: The module slots seem totally wrong though. Why put Treasure hunter and extra loot mods in different slots, when extra loot and utility, like more mount speed, are in the same slot? Loot and utility should be separated in different slots. I like that there is an option to have twice loot, twice utility or a mix if you want. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausar.9542 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Jade Bot is better than both Mounts in PoF and Gliders in HoT. Just saying 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artyport.2084 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 If they dont get skins imma be mad!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreggon.6598 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Fire Attunement.9835 said: Hi all, so glad you found today's show informative! I've been reading the conversation here and wanted to pop in quickly to call out two things we did not mention on the show: The jade bot personal waypoint will persist until you use it or until you change maps You will be able to have a jade bot workbench in your guild hall Aww, the personal waypoint isn't a permanent thing? I guess it would break older content if you could port there whenever you want... but it does make it a lot less cool. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 After watching the stream on jade bots, these are my thoughts: Please!! Limit additional stats to vitality only! In my opinion, the addition of electromagical pulse started us down a path this game never should have taken. Let's just put the brakes on masteries providing vertical progression and possibly even consider backing out of that entirely by limiting EM pulse to IBS maps only or removing the CC effects and making it only useful for tagging. I'm struggling to understand the purpose of the jade drone cam which is, as you repeatedly pointed out, extremely limited. Very underwhelming. Same with zip lines and jade batteries. I like the skills that modify other masteries. Speedboat skiffs and glider lifts seem like fun and useful features. I'm also excited to gain 30% endurance regen on my mounts! It's nothing game-changing like mounts and gliders, but this is more what I was looking for from jade bots. The minor loot bonuses are fine, too. Honestly, not as excited about this as I was before I heard the details. It's a shame and I hope you'll expand the features in fun and interesting ways in the future. I think there's potential here, but at this point it isn't hitting the mark for me. 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie.3184 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) are the jade bot modules always in inventory cluttering space or do they bind to account like wardrobe? I worry about it being annoying having to change them constantly The helicopter thing is a good photomode opprotunity if it has 1st person mode or even a zoom that doesn't make my character disappear when too close. Skins and recolors would be nice ofc. I'll take a flying robo-Quaggan. Edited February 12, 2022 by Doggie.3184 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donari.5237 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Artyport.2084 said: If they dont get skins imma be mad!!! I fear they may not be able to be skinned since the bots are mostly skill effects rather than actual objects. Making them skinnable could mean making all skills skinnable ... which many have asked for repeatedly ... could it be? No. I feel they would have announced a skill reskin feature by now if they were giving us that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Doggie.3184 said: are the jade bot modules always in inventory cluttering space or do they bind to account like wardrobe? I worry about it being annoying having to change them constantly The helicopter thing is a good photomode opprotunity if it has 1st person mode or even a zoom that doesn't make my character disappear when too close. Skins and recolors would be nice ofc. I'll take a flying robo-Quaggan. It's shown how/where the modules work in the stream/video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentMoore.9453 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Doggie.3184 said: are the jade bot modules always in inventory cluttering space or do they bind to account like wardrobe? 1 minute ago, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said: It's shown how/where the modules work in the stream/video. In the video, we see Rubi's inventory filled with upgrades objects which, I assume, are going to be something you craft/acquire on a per-character basis. Further, you need to go to a work table to swap upgrades in or out despite the interface looking like a hero panel. Given what we saw, that sounds like a lot of clutter once you factor in how many different kinds of upgrades there are and how many different tiers there are for each upgrade. I really hope there's a plan in place for easy management of this or else I'm just going to have scraps of upgrades all over the place as I struggle to play inventory wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dami.5046 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) Do we know if once the Jade Bot is unlocked it's for the whole account or you have to do the story on each character you want a Bot on? Assuming that it's a mastery so unlocked for all, right? Edited February 12, 2022 by Dami.5046 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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