Aodlop.1907 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 We all know the trick of making a character, completing its personal story and getting a key for it. But it's a rather tedious process.Can't they scrap that and give us a weekly challenge to complete once per account that'd give us the key? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alin.2468 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 No. Black Lion Key is a way of making money. It is hard to get from PvE, it is easy to obtain with money. And when you use it, skin rewards are given by luck. This is a money sink, and it needs to remain that way for company profits. Go and buy gems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I think they want to make it tedious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitarskee.5738 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 You got weekly key for personal story and 4x times a month you get a black lion goods chest which can drop a key. I think it's enough, other companies aren't so keen on giving free stuff so consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Take that weekly key toon and map complete on it. You get a few that way as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Keys are one of the ways in which Anet makes actual money from the game. I'm actually surprised that, over time, they've allowed key running characters on the same account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 10-15 min for a key every week isn‘t that bad.A new weekly challenge would result in the same tiresome experience after a while, I‘d rather keep the lvl10 story mission rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr.5382 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Not sure if serious. Just be appreciative that Anet even allows this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I get 3 a week from a keyfarmer, hardly that much work with boosters either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilora.9524 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 It is tedious. And a lot don't know or waste the time. A weekly added would encourage way more accounts to get that free key each week and anet would lose sales. Unless of course the weekly was as or more tedious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCatz.8437 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 @"Jilora.9524" said:It is tedious. And a lot don't know or waste the time. A weekly added would encourage way more accounts to get that free key each week and anet would lose sales. Unless of course the weekly was as or more tediousWell ANet would in that case make what you get from chests less worth and complicate it with token like Black Lion Vouchers or anything else that you need collect to make into a full piece and then get another item which also work as a token for higher tier items etc. In short: what people want from chests will then take much more time (and in the end ends up with a convoluted system of tokens to get what you want - and naturally introduce more ways to pay your way with real money).Black Lion Chests did get you items that could be sold for some Gold for some years ago, but today it looks like most BLC contain token which one have to use "buy" same item at a special NPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Have you ever tried asking any other business for more ways to get their products for free?If so who were the companies and what were the products and how did they respond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 @Aodlop.1907 said:We all know the trick of making a character, completing its personal story and getting a key for it. But it's a rather tedious process.Can't they scrap that and give us a weekly challenge to complete once per account that'd give us the key?It would be way easier if Anet would just mail us a key every week. Don't put it in the gem store for free, that would be too much effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 @DeanBB.4268 said:@Aodlop.1907 said:We all know the trick of making a character, completing its personal story and getting a key for it. But it's a rather tedious process.Can't they scrap that and give us a weekly challenge to complete once per account that'd give us the key?It would be way easier if Anet would just mail us a key every week. Don't put it in the gem store for free, that would be too much effort.Why only one key? Why not a 5 key bundle? Or 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather.6401 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 250 ectos + 250 mystic coins +250 monster eyes + 250.... you get the point. If you don't get the point. Asking for a way to get something without a credit card and it'll be turned into a time sink in which you need to marry the game and become a bot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 The only truly free method of acquisition right now is the customer appreciation package. All other methods involve time spent or currency spent. Be thankful there is a way to get them without cash, several in fact. This is fine as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I've been doing core map completions on my alts and have started a (very) small stockpile of keys. I find that there really isn't much, if anything, that I want from the chests and the rare item that I might never falls to me anyway. Sometimes I wish that I could auction keys for gold. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 @Zephyr.5382 said:Not sure if serious. Just be appreciative that Anet even allows this method.I agree. I'm pretty sure the keys from the personal story are intended to be marketing - you get a free key so you try out the system, hopefully (from Anet's perspective) start thinking about all the cool things you could get and end up buying more.I don't think they considered key runs when designing the system and I was pleasantly surprised that when they did revise it they only limited it to once a week. They could have made it once per account like Elder Scrolls Online did when they introduced level up rewards that included loot boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 @kharmin.7683 said:I've been doing core map completions on my alts and have started a (very) small stockpile of keys. I find that there really isn't much, if anything, that I want from the chests and the rare item that I might never falls to me anyway. Sometimes I wish that I could auction keys for gold. hahaI hear ya. I see a new mount skin, or weapon skin, or whatever, and while I think they are nice, I have so many to choose from now that it's hard to spend my keys. I keep holding out for a desirable guaranteed drop. I did spend the customer appreciation key and got the turtle, so that was nice. I like my submarine hummingbird just fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gert.7698 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I have good news for you: you can get them by doing what you want: play game -> sell the loot for gold -> convert gold to gems -> buy keys ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedragon.8953 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 @gert.7698 said:I have good news for you: you can get them by doing what you want: play game -> sell the loot for gold -> convert gold to gems -> buy keys This basically. The least tedious is just to buy gems with money and then buy a key. I never bought a key (or key farmed...yet?) because I guess I just don't care enough.I will entertain the idea, however, and say they could put a key in the daily log in Chest of Loyalty. You have the choice to get one key or the normal lot of laurels, crafting materials, etc. I think there should be an in game cost. This may also be or interesting for long term players who already have legendary, and laurels overflowing their coffers,, and want a little RNG excitement/disappointment. I think it is also possible to get them from the daily log in black lion box at a rate of 1.7% or something. Honestly though, the keys seem kind alike a gimmick, so if you want to pray to the RNG gods, it is probably best to donate to the top tier deity of Tyria...Anet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeivu.3615 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I have been playing since beta. They were way too easy to get initially without those limits. I still miss the rare drop via combat though. Considering the loot box mechanic is a serious money maker, I don't seen them reverting those changes. And if they do, you can bet your soul those odds will have at least another ten zeros added to the drop percentages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 @Zeivu.3615 said:I have been playing since beta. They were way too easy to get initially without those limits. I still miss the rare drop via combat though. Considering the loot box mechanic is a serious money maker, I don't seen them reverting those changes. And if they do, you can bet your soul those odds will have at least another ten zeros added to the drop percentages.You can still get them from normal mobs its just super rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFishBob.6518 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 They do drop, and for me they drop more than precursors so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvar.7953 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I suspect the fact it is a rather tedious process means that only a small minority of players do the weekly key farm. I know I don't bother with it, because I have other things I'd rather do with those 10 minutes than get a key.If getting keys became very quick/non tedious, then a lot more players would likely do it, which would directly amount the number of keys Anet sells for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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